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Paully_B
How's about a little info? Head to the Infirmary and copy the applicable (soil v hydro) chart. Answer the questions and post them up.
On another note, your photos are HUGE. Space for member photos is limited. Reduce them to 600x800 and you'll have room for hundreds more shots. Save for the web, and you may make room for thousands.
On another note, your photos are HUGE. Space for member photos is limited. Reduce them to 600x800 and you'll have room for hundreds more shots. Save for the web, and you may make room for thousands.
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Paully_B
How long has this problem been going on? 4days
What STRAIN are you growing?strawberry cough
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)clone
What is the age of your plants?5weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?4weeks
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before?rapid rooters
How Tall are the plants?36inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg, but they were flowered for three days and then given to me. i put them back in 24hr light exactly one week ago
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)topped once
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)2gallon bags
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)100% Fox Farm Ocean Forest
What brand Nutrient's are you using?roots organics and earth juice catalyst
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? 1/2 strength BuddhA Grow and 1/2 strength Earth juice catalyst*Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding?EVERY WATERING roughly 4 days between feedings/watering
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?around 700ppm
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?i have never tested the runoff
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? every feeding/watering
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering?digital waterproof ph pen
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?last feeding was on the 27th and i feed everytime
What size bulb are you using?400MH
How old is your bulbs?brand new
What is the distance to the canopy?10-12inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)its been around 65% but i just bought a dehumid and it is now around 45%
What is the canopy temperature?ranges from 68f-80f
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)200cfm in a dr90
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?it is inline with my hood and my 4x12 phresh
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?i have a floor fan that oscillates and has been blowing directly on the ladies, i just changed it so it is now indirect
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?i try to create a good/wet dry cycle
Is your water HARD or SOFT? not sure, i usally adjust ph to around 6.5 when feeding/water
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled?city water
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)not sure i should measure i have a truncheon
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?topped around week 2/3
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?i am going to use mosquito dunks as i have found gnats. i also have a no pest strip hanging near the fan in the top right corner. i put it in today
Are plant's infected with pest's?that is why i need your help...the discoloring of the leaves is scaring me...something is going on
What STRAIN are you growing?strawberry cough
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)clone
What is the age of your plants?5weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?4weeks
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before?rapid rooters
How Tall are the plants?36inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg, but they were flowered for three days and then given to me. i put them back in 24hr light exactly one week ago
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)topped once
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)2gallon bags
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)100% Fox Farm Ocean Forest
What brand Nutrient's are you using?roots organics and earth juice catalyst
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? 1/2 strength BuddhA Grow and 1/2 strength Earth juice catalyst*Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding?EVERY WATERING roughly 4 days between feedings/watering
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?around 700ppm
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?i have never tested the runoff
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? every feeding/watering
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering?digital waterproof ph pen
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?last feeding was on the 27th and i feed everytime
What size bulb are you using?400MH
How old is your bulbs?brand new
What is the distance to the canopy?10-12inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)its been around 65% but i just bought a dehumid and it is now around 45%
What is the canopy temperature?ranges from 68f-80f
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)200cfm in a dr90
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?it is inline with my hood and my 4x12 phresh
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?i have a floor fan that oscillates and has been blowing directly on the ladies, i just changed it so it is now indirect
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?i try to create a good/wet dry cycle
Is your water HARD or SOFT? not sure, i usally adjust ph to around 6.5 when feeding/water
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled?city water
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)not sure i should measure i have a truncheon
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?topped around week 2/3
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?i am going to use mosquito dunks as i have found gnats. i also have a no pest strip hanging near the fan in the top right corner. i put it in today
Are plant's infected with pest's?that is why i need your help...the discoloring of the leaves is scaring me...something is going on
my guess is your over nuting them... ocean forest has all the nutes in the soil... alll you need is water...
but not only are your plants eating that your feeding it 700ppm so its getting double feedings....
just feed them water till they show signs of deficioncies or at least cut out the grow nutes.
but not only are your plants eating that your feeding it 700ppm so its getting double feedings....
just feed them water till they show signs of deficioncies or at least cut out the grow nutes.
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Paully_B
thanks for the response...are you looking at my pics and surmising this conclusion? or are you just going by what i posted? anyways, regardless, thanks for the advice...
would love a second opinion. i have already decided the next watering is going to be a healthy dose of ph'd wated
would love a second opinion. i have already decided the next watering is going to be a healthy dose of ph'd wated
im going by what you filled out... pictures help but plants burn in many ways.... i can promise you if you stop feeding it grow nutes and stick to water itll recover....
ps... no need for a second opinion.... -=]
ps... no need for a second opinion.... -=]
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Paully_B
thanks i just flushed one of them that was thirsty... it was also the worst off of them all...should i go ahead and flush the others? the other two arent quite thirsty enough but i was thinking i go ahead and flush....
can you flush without them being thirsty
can you flush without them being thirsty
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Paully_B
thanks i just flushed one of them that was thirsty... it was also the worst off of them all...should i go ahead and flush the others? the other two arent quite thirsty enough but i was thinking i go ahead and flush....
can you flush without them being thirsty
can you flush without them being thirsty
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Paully_B
i just flushed them with a lot of 6.4ph water....
this is what they looked like before...not 5minutes ago
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was flushing the right thing to do or is there something else going on here
this is what they looked like before...not 5minutes ago
was flushing the right thing to do or is there something else going on here
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Paully_B
thanks poopyteabags, i just flushed them with about a gallon each of pure 6.4phd water. i am hoping they perk up a good bit in the next couple of days...i didnt test the runoff as i havent figured the best way to do that yet...
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Paully_B
do you think flushing is whats going to help? how do i adjust the ph in my soil? i know how to test ph before i feed/water....
here are some updated pics i just took
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here are some updated pics i just took
just ph some tap water and pour through your medium check the runoff water when that water reaches a acceptable range your good to go... only flush when the plant needs water...
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Paully_B
what would you say an acceptable range would be....around 6.5? should i go ahead and trim the affected fan leaves? also, i am going to take some cuttings soon to as these are essentially just mommas a friend gave me....they are huge but at the same time...i was thinking about taked 8-10 cuttings...as soon as they root i would get rid of the three girls i got in there currently...
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Paully_B
would you say the rest of the growth (according to the pics) looks pretty healthy?
they dont look that bad at all... it looks to me like too much nitrogen, and possibly under watered.
how dry are you letting the soil get before you water?
how dry are you letting the soil get before you water?
You really need to post your problems in one place. It's a pain in the ass chasing after several different threads about the same issues.
No offense but I disagree with the diagnosis of over fertilization. In fact I will go so far as to say that it IS ABSOLUTELY NOT over fertilization.
None of the pictures show any evidence of nute burn. No burnt tips, no leaves curling under, no new growth burned or discolored. It just simply isn't nute burn.
Those plants are suffering from deficiencies. Prior to flushing they were lacking Phosphorus, Mg, and Zinc, and possibly Nitrogen. Now I would presume that they are lacking pretty much everything.
If allowed to go until the pots dry they will most probably lose foliage and continue yellowing and dying of the leaves.
If they were in my nursery I would flush em with a full dose of nutrients. Improvement will be seen almost immediately or within 24 hours, however the drying, dying leaves will fall and die, they are too far gone to recover.
Like I said in the other thread:
No offense but I disagree with the diagnosis of over fertilization. In fact I will go so far as to say that it IS ABSOLUTELY NOT over fertilization.
None of the pictures show any evidence of nute burn. No burnt tips, no leaves curling under, no new growth burned or discolored. It just simply isn't nute burn.
Those plants are suffering from deficiencies. Prior to flushing they were lacking Phosphorus, Mg, and Zinc, and possibly Nitrogen. Now I would presume that they are lacking pretty much everything.
If allowed to go until the pots dry they will most probably lose foliage and continue yellowing and dying of the leaves.
If they were in my nursery I would flush em with a full dose of nutrients. Improvement will be seen almost immediately or within 24 hours, however the drying, dying leaves will fall and die, they are too far gone to recover.
Like I said in the other thread:
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Paully_B
out of the
Roots Organic Buddha Grow
Roots Organic Buddha Bloom
Earth Juice Catalyst
Roots Organic HPK...
what do you think i should use? i have decided i should feed them something stress test
Roots Organic Buddha Grow
Roots Organic Buddha Bloom
Earth Juice Catalyst
Roots Organic HPK...
what do you think i should use? i have decided i should feed them something stress test
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Paully_B
this is all that i have above
I have never used any of the products you've listed, so I really can't offer an educated suggestion.
I can't really give you any advice on the nutes you've listed buddy. I settled on the recipe I posted many moons ago because it works and never causes any sort of problems.
I really haven't ever experimented with substituting other ingredients.
I can't really give you any advice on the nutes you've listed buddy. I settled on the recipe I posted many moons ago because it works and never causes any sort of problems.
I really haven't ever experimented with substituting other ingredients.
