I have a lot of seeds and planning guerilla.Some questions?

[del10]

I have about 500 unknown different variety of local seeds. i live 40N. going to sow in a few days and i can go to the grow area about june 15 and for harvest.
Has anybody tried the direct sowing outdoor?
How many seed can survive from 100 seed with this method?
Im planning 100 seed per site. what m2 need per site?
I have no money for fertilizer or water crystal right now.Can I add water crystals after planting?
is liqiud bat guano with high K ok for fertilizer?( i can only one time water and fertilize)
and what do you think about that.
every suggestion/information is important for me.
Thank you in advance.
Peace, love and pot from Turkiye.

 

[Manivelle]

hi
the 100 seed can survive. if you are lucky.
but be careful with the slugs and birds .
if can't go to the spot to water the plants i do'nt recomend to use fertilizer. let the plant grow slowly . that way you'll need less water .
make holes and put a big layer of clay at the botom to retain water.
use some big flat stones as a mulch with a lot of earth and straws on top of it to protect the stone from sun heat. and don't plant under direct sun if possible.
give us more details about the spot with pics if possible(something that look like your spot).

good luck

 

[del10]

where i plan to sow seeds already have a clay layer about 1m. The terrain is mountain and mostly hillside i think to sow. a lot of oak and pine trees in the area. i am a geologist and i work on that area. soil is manganese and iron rich. probably main elements are in soil too. dont have a slug problem actually. but rabbits confuses me. i dont want a lot of weed. i think only 1-2kg is enough for me with 500 seeds i cant take a photo but i can find places like your said.
you said dont fertilize and plant will grow slowly. it sounds good. but mulching cant be possible with rocks and stones. is coco brickets good for mulching? or another lightweight things can you perefer? pine needles is ok?

 

[Manivelle]

yes pines needles are really good . from 15 to 20 cm thick layer will do the job.
protect as much as possible the top layer of the plants. .and most important all around the plant. saw the seeds close one to each other . it will be easier to protect this area.
growing under oak is not a good idea as the oak produce some defense against other plants. under the pines would be nicer.
search for some rabbit repulsive. slugs are everywhere they go out at night when the air is fresh.
if you can't water them i doubt you will be able to obtain plants honestly. unless it is a wet moutain with rain during summer.
and if don't go to the patch during summer around15th july you wil not be able to control polenisation from male or hermaphrodite.

 

[del10]

minimum rain is 1 inch per month during the summer. and some rain in june(2inch). no rain almost july and august(1 inch/month). september some, october is the real rain begins(3-4 inch). or must i add some water crystals when sowing seeds? i am a bit confused

 

[bombadil.360]

Pines make the soil's ph very acidic, mulching with pine needles will just acidify the soil even more.

You need the soil to be sufficiently moist/humid and with neutral ph or as close as possible for the seeds to sprout/germinate.

Rabbits will eat young plants, they love cannabis.

By the sounds of it, you have a difficult location with many problems for the type of grow you want.

Try to find a better spot. And instead of planting 500 seeds, do 20 but well cared for. If you manage 50grams per plant with just a little more care (cage to keep rabbits away while plants grow, better soil, more water) you can get 1kg.

You can always try with the 500 in a few different spots with no care, just don't expect too much.

Good luck!

 

[del10]

I have also 7xautomazar,2xchemdawg,1xcheese,1xblack destroyer,1xbig bud too. But you said that i have a difficult sitiation and location. I dont expect too much. I have no time for anything but I want to grow How many seeds per site do you think ?

 

[Manivelle]

you wil not have any problems with mulching with pine needles
read post by mountzioncollec here
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=324351&page=2

and yes sure adding water crystals should help. you can search for some oyas too .
your 500 seeds are local strain from turkey or the genetic comes from elsewhere ? are we talking about turkish landrace?

 

[del10]

Yes we can talk about Turkish landrace indeed.Seeds came from a lot of different cities with a lot of different climates. Most of those were very couchlock, a bit of heady. I saw only dried bus not plants indeed. Not enough dried, not properly cured buds, very bad conditions in my country. But most seeds get high and stoned me. I also smoked a bit of real breeders strains like GH. Some of the buds were really good but not enough the hybrids.

 

[Manivelle]

so there is more chance that the plant survive if landrace because of acclimatation. much better genetic than the modern hybrid selectioned indoor.
landrace are in danger try to keep the more seed you can and document it with date area and pics if possible. pure landrace are fucked because of bad hybriding with feminized crap strain like gh or other landrace coming from another area. . so try to save all the diferent strain you can find for future generations. as a mediteranean turkish landrace are on top of my wishlist .

 

[del10]

In my country, noone can sow the expensive seeds in the native soil only in the market, they are landrace. But police says Turkish stuff cant find a place in the world market, beacuse of poor quality. But I can say some good stuff in it. And this topic will be a grow diary for me. I proud to sharing iformation with you guys.

 

[Manivelle]

all landrace are better than the modern hybrid you can find on the market. biodiversity has no price . it should be kept as a treasure and be shared to humanity before madnes of authority and ignorance erased it from the surface of the planet . have you mixed the seed of all the different area ? or did you kept them in different packs ?
and there is landrace on the market ...
thank you for sharing.

 

[del10]

you are right. i dont want to pull out of males in my sitiuation. then next season who wants to own Turkish landraces, I will send him for humanity with no profit.

 

[Manivelle]

i think evrybody . there is fund raiser (seedbay) here on the site may be you'll can contact them at the end of the season . but if all your different seeds ,from different area are mixed ,it will be hard to know wich one are pure and are not ..

 

[Tactical Farmer]

Its a HUGE risk planting seeds in site, soooooo many things will kill seedlings.

 

[del10]

yes tactical. i will be waiting nature's wonder
end of the season may be i can describe some of the pure strains.

 

[Swamp Thang]

I wound up with at least two ounces weight of dark, mature sativa seeds, because my last swamp grow was plagued with many late-maturing male plants that shed pollen during my long absences from the grow site. The resultant harvest was thus 100% seeded bud.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping my Ace Malawi and Zamaldelica beans beat the odds and show up with the next camel caravan, so that instead or planting another generation of my inbred random sativa strains, I can devote my precious planting space to some top-of-the-line sativa genetics for a change.

Still and all, I can't bear to toss out my bagful of sativa seeds from last season's grow. Might store them in a water-proof container and stash it in the woods, just to see how long the seeds remain viable and mold free. On the other hand I could dispose of my excess weed seeds by walking down a country road for a quarter mile or so, dropping seeds and kicking dirt over then as I innocently stroll along.

 

[aridbud]

but be careful with the slugs and birds . And squirrels/rabbits. May want to make chicken wire domes until they are 8-10 tall. If it were me, I'd start plants then crate them out to be transplanted....are holes ready with amendable soil/perlite? Adequate water nearby? Guerilla growing is harder than you think.... Good luck!!

 

[del10]

yes i know its hard but. i have nothing to lost. a water source is nearby. i cant bring with me things like chicken wire. i think 50 plants will be survive and 20 female are ok for me. Tomorrow i am going to sow seeds and will add photos here.

 

[del10]

i learned something this is very difficult thing. in my country, everywhere sheeps and shepherds, rabbits, deers . I planted about 100 seeds 5 plot
in june we will see what happens