I have a few questions about autos.

[#1cheesebuds]

I have a good amount of simi auto seeds that got made from this last winter growI had indoors. 1 purple auto the res of the plants were regular ladies. they were very dank with rock hard buds. they got a few seeds at the end of flowering because the regular auto ladie pollinated them last 2 weeks flowering.

My question is when I plant them what would be the ratio of them being auto to not autos.

eather way I plan on planting 1 seed from each bud just to see what happens. ya know if auto or not. BTW all the buds r different strains.

I think if they do turn out to grow like autos. they should grow very nice.

laters.

 

[folkmaster]

Don't know from personal experience, but from what I have read...First generation auto crossed with non auto produces all non autos(photo period). Not until second generation do you start to see some autos. Maybe someone with actual experience can set the record straight... Regards

 

[offthehook]

@ Folkmaster. Yes that would be correct.

Mendels figure on Auto crossings.
During a long time standing attempt to produce my own autoflowering strains I came to the conclusion that "Mendels"(google?!?) findings on peas seem to work on autoflowering traits as well.

All you need to do is to take a look at the genetical make up of your plants.(seeds)


*Whereas "a" = recessive autoflowering trait and "A" = dominant regular flowering trait.



aa = fully automatic flowerer

aA = intermediar flowerer (It'll start to bloom later then an Auto, but earlyer then a regular bloomer and in disregard of decreasing day length.

Aa = intermediar flowerer (same as aA but only flowers under influence of decreasing daylength.)

AA = regular photo period responding plant.

Note, only these 4 types of different genetical make up for auto or photo period responding bloomers are to be found amongst cannabis. aa,aA,Aa,AA.

aa x aa = aa,aa,aa,aa = 100% autoflowering plants that will produce 100% autoflowering offspring.

aA x aA = aa,aA,Aa,AA = 25% auto, 50% intermediar,25% regular.

Aa X Aa = AA,Aa,aA,aa = 25% regular, 50% intermediar, 25% auto.

aa X aA = aa,aA,aa,aA = 50% auto and 50% intermediar that 'll bloom in disregard of daylenght.

aa X Aa = aA,aa,aA,aa = 50% auto and 50% intermediar that 'll bloom in regard of daylenght.

aa x AA = (auto x regular) = aA,aA,aA,aA. 100% intermediair that will all bloom at aproximately the same time but in regard of daylenght.

When you know this, there will be ways to find out the genetical make up from your seed.

An aa will always be 100% autoflowering and it's offspring while crossed with an other aa will do so too.

With the Aa's and the aA seeds mixed in with the Aa's and/or AA's on a bud, it will only be possible to know what the auto seeds are after germinating them and causing them to bloom on a 24 hour light cycle.
Auto bloomers (aa and aA's) will respond by blooming in disregard of daylength.

The fastes way to make a pure auto flowering plant out of a regular one is to take their offspring and cross it numerous times back on an aa while exclusively using the automaticly blooming feno that 'll show up in f2 and beyond .
Note:Only some of their first aa's will show up in their f2 generation not in their f1!, but if you breed these back on an other aa, you'll get 100% automatic flowering plants of wich the offspring will be 100% autoflowering too.

This however, will cause much of other benevolent traits of the regular plant to disapear, and therefore does "fast" not always equal "better".
Besides, that way... you've got to keep selecting after wards for benevelent traits to maintain.

For breeding tecnical reasons it makes more sense to do it the slower way and therefore it is better to focus on the aA ones as well. (Since they are more likely to inherit some of the better aspects of the regular strain too.)

What takes longer, eventually gets better

Dig it when interested, Never mind when buying seeds from the doc

 

[*mr.mike*]

Just imagine if auto genes (or even cannabis sex genes) worked like simple dominant/recessive crosses as illustrated by Mendelian Inheritance... that would make things so much easier.

But they really don't seem to.

 

[Easy7]

From F1's 25% should be auto's. I only grew one auto F1 and it did auto and was a dank male. Crystals and smelled of blueberry muffins! I do not really like auto's, there are better yeilding strains.

 

[offthehook]

@ Mr.Mike > In my line of work with several thousends of auto crosses, I still need to see a first to not follow the rules layed out by Mendels.

Toroughly know the genetical make up of your seeds, and the outcome of your prospective cross will be fairly easy predictable.

It's 9th grade science realy.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

yea !!! ok thanks that was a good read.

well I planted one of my might be auto seeds in a beer cup of coco it has sprouted so far so good. Ill justt see how it goes.

 

[aridbud]

It's been my experience w/ Auto x Mex. sat....roughly 25% auto...from there, I used those autos and continued to breed w/ autos, each time increasing the autos genetically. Still a work in progress. Love making my own AF hybrids!!

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so my lil AF is a female. yea. I planted her in a pot out in my backyard garden.
It will be interesting grow.

 

[offthehook]

Great shot CB.

I seldom saw such a clear pic.

 

[Lucky 7]

truly a remarkable camera/lens/photog . . . . good luck!

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so here is how she is looking now.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

new pix today. she is looking great now.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so Ill get new pix tomorrow for sure this time. she is looking gr8 now. she is all fat and dense. woo hoo. she is 12 weeks flowering today. I cant wate to harvest her whach is right around the corner.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so here are the pix of the lovely AF lady. I don't know what brand she is but she is from seed that I found in some mid-grade flowers a while back.

the bud is rock hard. woo hoo. ill be back on this thread to show the harvested flower when time is here.

 

[aridbud]

Yeowza...you're on the right path! KUDOS!

 

[5th]

Hey #1.

Is this plant from the seed you sprouted back in the middle of March?

5 months is a hellova long time for an autoflower.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

no. the seed was plated close to the end of may.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so I harvested her and now shes dryed and in a jar for the curing process. pix of her cured a little bit when I get back from vacation to ca.
man is she so dam good I cant wait to try her. as of now she has a musky smell.

 

[Deftoner]

Im 3/3 on auto seeds