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i cut off almost all off roots, will they live?

deviant1

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well I cut off about 80 percent of my roots, the plants are only 4 wks old. they had some brown slime, that wouldn't go away. so I changed them to new netpots, but to do this I had to cut off the infected roots to make sure it didn't come back, right? well what's done is done, I jus wanna know what you all think of my chances are for survival? btw, 1 is fem. alaskan ice, and other fem. cheese. both from ghs in ams.
 

VerdantGreen

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general practice in gardening is that when you reduce the rootmass you should also reduce the top-growth so that the plant can still support it. maybe you should prune the plants a bit too - top em back hard if you arent in flower.

not sure if this still applies in hydro but i dont see why not...

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PuReKnOwLeDgE

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Root rot huh? What are your reservoir temps? I am guessing you need to lower them. Also disinfect your container, pumps, filters, lines. Get some aquashield and lower the temps you won't have that problem. Otherwise its a lost cause.
 

deviant1

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well I did take some clones in hope that they would make it, is this gonna work?I did have a heat issue, temps were at 77F in res. now its 62-70F in res. its been a while now and still haven't seen anymore slime. I just hope they will stay alive. will they die, do they even have a chance? do my clones have a chance? is there anything that I can do to help them take root?
 

LittleWhiteGod

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when the plants have been stressed like that and you are trying to get them to recover, i would recommend taking them out from below an intense HID and put them under a low intensity light like a floro until they start progressing. you didn't say what kind of light they were under so not sure if that is applicable, but this is generally good practice i have found. also, if they start to sag from the lack of roots you could prune them back (tops) some like VerdantGreen suggested and put some sort of makeshift humidity dome over each of them and treat them like clones. that should at least get them to stand back up and fight on a little longer. 77F is to hot as we all know, you should see marked improvements with the 62-70F change in res temp. i grew in DWC for many years and have found that the #1 source of problems, or lack of sucess, with this system is due to high resevoir temps. good luck and yes, there is a good chance they will survive.
 

deviant1

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yes they are under a 400w cmh, the only other thing I can put them under is where my clones are, under a 20w flouro. is this what you would suggest me to do? I have my clones setup jus how you described, I should have them. thank you for the advice, so about how long till I should start to see roots or any improvement? I do realize that it will get worse before it gets better, so maybe that is the case.
 

stihgnobevoli

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ive had experience in slime on roots, root rot, and cutting roots in hydro.

in my experience ive cut back all the way to 10% roots and they recovered, one time i just cut all the roots back to the stem like they were clones and they recovered. hydro is really good for growing roots fast. when i cut back the roots to 10% they were back in action after less than a week. when i cut em down to clone status it took a little more than a week before they were back in action.

i dont think it would work the same in soil though. but hydro...somethin else. grows roots like magic.
 

deviant1

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ok so its been almost a week now, do you think I should try to stimulate the roots. the reason I ask is that nothing is happening, besides them dying. I hope your right about them coming back, it looks like my clones, I took from them before I cut the roots are doing way better than the plants themselves. is this possible that my clones can be doin this already, its been around 5 days.
 

stihgnobevoli

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are there still leaves on the plants? if so dont bother em, just let them do their thing. they will bounce back. in the case that they dont you still have clones. but i dont see why they wouldnt bounce back.
 

deviant1

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yes, they do still have all their leaves. so that's all it takes is for them to have leaves to recover. someone here told me to change my lighting from hid to flouro, is this something I should do? actually I did this already. it made sense, so I thought id try it out. thanks for helpin me out
 

deviant1

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ok well its been a week now, since I cut off my roots. they are growing back now, and would like to thank everyone here who helped me through this problem I had. I do have one more question though, how long till I should put them back under my 400w cmh? I would like to do this a.s.a.p. thanks again to everyone who helped.
 

hempluvr

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Put them back under it now. They have had a week to recover and now that the plants are growing again they will love all that light. Keep the res temps low as previously mentioned and you will be ok
 
Roots excelurator is good stuff. If I had cut that much of the root mass off, I'd be throwing that at the plants, plus some compost tea and b1. Go easy on the light for a bit until the root mass has time to recover.
 
You have been given a lot of opinions, but it's going to depends on the needs of the plants. How large they are, if they are big they won't like small roots.

Should of left those in, maybe just some hydrogen peroxide to decompose the dead cells. Roots heal, they simply require O2, clean water, and time!
 
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chytil151

If I may ask a question, are u using hygrozyme in your nute cycle? The reason I'm asking is you said there was a slime on the root's prior to noticing the root rot. If so this might not be root rot at all might be the "hydro herpie" caused from using hygrozyme w/o using or having a BB in your system for the enzyme in the hygrozyme to work off of. If so there is a thread totally dedicated to this problem. Good luck in finding out what is wrong and getting it worked out :)
 

deviant1

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thanks for the concern, but I found out that it was jus a light leak and too high of temps. btw, no I don't use anything but lucas formula in my res. I am new at hydro and barely even understand what im doin half the time. ill get this figured out sooner or later.
 
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