hydroplex or sweet or both or a waste of money

[Diamonddss]

im using pbp bloom and lk with promix. Im at one week flower and plan to run about 8 more weeks. The guy at the local shop was pushing me on hydroplex and a diff guy there saiid i should add sweet. Well i could add both asd its not a cash issue but i also understand these are sales people and bills dont get paid with there product sitting on a shelf.

I searched and found a few threads mentioning each product but nothing much

In your own opinion
Are Sweet or Hydroplex really needed? Any noticable difference?
If you only used one of the 2 which would it be? I was gonna go ahead and get the hydroplex but not the sweet but got confused and bought neither.

 

[RetroGrow]

Sweet is good for carbs. I use it sometimes, but molasses is good too. Helps to feed the buds.
Never used hydroplex.

 

[Bud Bug]

im using pbp bloom and lk with promix. Im at one week flower and plan to run about 8 more weeks. The guy at the local shop was pushing me on hydroplex and a diff guy there saiid i should add sweet. Well i could add both asd its not a cash issue but i also understand these are sales people and bills dont get paid with there product sitting on a shelf.

I searched and found a few threads mentioning each product but nothing much

In your own opinion
Are Sweet or Hydroplex really needed? Any noticable difference?
If you only used one of the 2 which would it be? I was gonna go ahead and get the hydroplex but not the sweet but got confused and bought neither.

They are two different products. One is a sugar for more crystal/bud weight and then other is a PK booster for bigger flowers.

So they make a difference, well I can't say as I haven't done side by side tests but will eventually get to that.

 

[Diamonddss]

i noticed swwet comes in flavors? does it actually flavor the bud?

 

[mr noodles]

i am a pbp user since severals years but i am starting to think botanicare take me for an idiot .

they bashed an for having dozen of what they claimed be worthless additive and their claim is that pbp and liquid karma got everything you need ...

then botanicare started to remove or reducing the level of certain ingredients in karma , then released 3 different sweet.....berry ,citrus and now grape.....we all know nothing in the aroma of a product can transfert into the taste of the plant, sweet 3 bottle of the same thing...sound a little like some claim about advanced nutes ...

now botanicare just keep releasing severals additive...from 2 bottle now we have 4-5 ...sound familiar ?


i am still a user of pbp and karma but i noticed a difference in the product since at least 2 years .

fert coe...all the same when they think about us $$$$$

 

[fireman]

Yea it could be botanicare but you could just be an idiot! haha jk sorry bro.

I have been using Botanicare for about 4 years now personally and have used both sweet and Hydroplex. As mention before they are both different products so you should have probably started your question with What do these products do?

A PK booster will definitely show a noticeable diff in your buds considering there will be more available P and K to the plants which are macro nutrients ,used in a myriad of ways all for the betterment of the plant, but not gonna list all of them. I have used Hydroplex (0-12-8) and saw a thickening and density added to the buds like never before. This was also the first PK booster i used.

I also have switched to Pureflowers (0-30-20) since then to add more K to the mix and i believe it has helped immensely.I feel like it made the tops wider in a since normally we have many foxtails, but not its like fields on top of the nugs they just got super wide. Its honestly crazy

I still am a believer in both products and cannot say i have seen a huge diff i can for sure put on one Booster over the other but i am pretty positive I can see the diff since i have a friend running Hydroplex the same strain and such.

Sweet is great as well, but I imagine Blackstrap can replace this product if necessary. I personalyl did my first to runs without sweet or any carboloader and then added berry sweet to the next run and i shit you not the weed smelled, but did not taste berryish if you know what i am saying!!! This is my two sense take if for what it is but i assure you PK boosters are a big step in a nutrient recipe in my mind from noob to grower, and will be included in every regimen i concoct from here on out

 

[FunkBomb]

I've used both products, but only continue to use Hydroplex. I found that Sweet just made all the plants taste the same despite being from different gene lines. It was a great taste, but some strains and phenotypes have great flavor that was missing when using Sweet.

As for Hydroplex I highly suggest using it. I've been using it for my current grow and the plants look amazing. The size/density of the buds and the amount of resin is somethin' else.

I've also used Blast Off which is just plant vitamins. I can't say if I can tell a difference or not.

-Funk

 

[Carl Carlson]

I want to start experimenting with Hydroplex (0-10-6) and also AN's Hammerhead (0-9-18).

check out Biksa's article about nutrient ratios from last August

http://www.maximumyield.com/article...&yearVar=2009&issueVar=August&featureVar=true

It seems to be aimed squarely at cannabis growers. feel free to disagree or agree, but that's my conclusion based on the wording.

He states a couple of interesting things

To answer the first part of the question, as indoor growers we are applying too much phosphorous because the recommendations for applications and formulations have been based on outdoor field agriculture practices, which simply don’t apply directly to indoor gardens. In nature the soil is very deep, and roots do not occupy the entire body of soil as they do in containers, beds or systems found with indoor gardens. Phosphorous leeches from the root zone in natural soils quickly, washing away from the contact zone with plant roots, as it drains with water further into the depths of the earth. To ensure a healthy supply of phosphorous, outdoor conventional field agricultural growers do a sort of “over-application” of phosphorous, because it has been determined that much of it will be quickly leeched away from the plant roots; what remains at any given time can be taken up by the crop. From this, we can learn that excessive “P” values in our N-P-Ks are not necessary for indoor growers, where phosphorous maintains a high level of contact within the root zone of plants grown in artificial soils and in containers, beds and systems commonly found with intensive indoor growing environments.

Firstly, don’t apply bloom boosters with high phosphorous to potassium ratios continually through the bloom phase. For the first week of flowering to help trigger the natural plant stresses that amplify the plant’s flowering process, it’s okay to give the crop a dose of bloom boosters that have higher P to K ratios in the NPK values stated on the label. Usually, these types of bloom boosters that are formulated for indoor crops at the onset of flowering will also have other components in the formulation that help to control vertical growth; stacking internodes and flowering sites tighter together for each foot of vertical growth to give maximum yields.

After the first week of flowering where a “trigger” bloom booster maybe used to help ignite the bloom phase, you may begin to apply a balanced P:K bloom booster in conjunction with a balanced base nutrient program. If you have gleamed anything from this article, you will be wondering what the appropriate P:K ratio would be for indoor flowering crops, and current research has been demonstrating that a 1:2 ratio seems to work best, the polar opposite of some of the bloom boosters currently being used by indoor growers. To build the biggest and heaviest flowers and fruits, bloom boosters should supply more than just the correct P:K ratios. Additions of L-amino acids and other forms of reduced nitrogen will further amplify and enhance the plant’s natural reproductive response, leading to bigger and heavier harvests of higher quality. Magnesium and sulfur are also very important components in the bloom process of most indoor crops.

In the late flowering phase, when the plant is ripening, and in some instances producing elevated levels of essential oils, a slight “spike” in phosphorous levels will induce a level of stress that can help to enhance crop quality. For example, this is when a 2:1 P:K ratio may be appropriate. Note that at this time, the plant is not developing structurally anymore. All crops should be sufficiently flushed of excess nutrients, beginning at least one week before the anticipated date of harvest. This is accomplished by applying a leeching agent to the growing medium or system and then running straight water possibly with digestive enzymes and/or humates for the final days before harvest.

I would like to compare for example, FNB as a standalone from the second week of bloom through the second to last week of bloom to a mix of FNB in equal parts (in terms of EC) with Hammerhead from the second week of bloom through the third to last week of bloom, followed by equal parts (EC) of FNB and Hydroplex during the second to last week of bloom, with 5-7 days of plain water flush during the last week of bloom in both regimens.

Three part base nutrient systems have been widely used and accepted through the indoor gardening community, and have been delivering great results for years. Based on modern research conducted on indoor grown high yielding crops, it was determined that using the three part nutrient system actually produced better results when being applied in a 1:1:1 ratio versus the common 3:2:1 ratio, especially when bloom boosters intended for indoor crops were used in conjunction with the three part nutrient system. 2:1 ratios of three part base nutrients were the least effective of all (where the “grow” component was omitted entirely through the bloom phase).

Upon analyzing the nutrient levels and ratios achieved in the nutrient solution for feeding indoor crops in the bloom phase, applying the base nutrients in a 1:1:1 ratio using popular three part nutrient components, the level and ratios much more closely resembled those of the internal nutrient levels and ratios of the plant being grown versus using the three part nutrient components in the common 3:2:1 method.

Here's the nutrient profile for GH at 1:1:1 (5 ml of each for EC 1.2, random yes):

111 ppm N 39 ppm P 136 ppm K 30 ppm Mg 15 ppm S 81 ppm Ca

 

[MrClone]

No

No

They are two different products. One is a sugar for more crystal/bud weight and then other is a PK booster for bigger flowers.

So they make a difference, well I can't say as I haven't done side by side tests but will eventually get to that.

The sugar is actually to feed your ben's not for crystals !@@! wouldn't bigger flowers = more weight? !@@!>----#

 

[Granger2]

Let's not forget about Sweet Raw. No flavors added. The only version of Sweet I would use. -granger