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hydro - nutrient deficiency or wrong ph?

synergetic

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hello i need help!

my ph meter just broke and i need to know if this is wrong ph causing a lockout och just plain nutrient deficiency? maybe something else?
looks to me like both nutrient burn, nitrogen and calcium deficiency.

320 Liter DWC hydro

ec is 860 µS using metrop nutrinet chart but not at full strength.
concentration somewhere between 1/2-3/4
watertemp is 24.5 Celsius
my tap water which i use have about 250 µS and a ph of 8.
i have added vinegar 24% as ph down maybe 50 ml and hydrogen peroxide 35 % 100 ml.
i havent had a correct reading of ph yet and i cant buy a new ph meter for at least 4 hours.
plants are growing in rockwool with leca on top.

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Jack Flash
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Northern Light 5 x Haze

peace
 

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10k

burnt out og'er
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Not a lot of info given, but man that's some damn salty looking lecastone
High sodium levels (in your water or in the medium) will give you plants looking like what you have btw

And that set-up is unlike any dwc I've ever seen.
Please further describe those buckets for us, along with filling out this form...

How long has this problem been going on?
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
What STRAIN are you growing?
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
What is the age of your plants?
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
How tall are the plants?
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
What is the Water temperature?
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
What Nutrient's are you using?
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?
When was your last watering?
What is your water temps?
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using?
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Are you using water from a water softener?
 

synergetic

New member
How long has this problem been going on? since yesterday
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) nope
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) DWC
What STRAIN are you growing? Jack Flash and NL5xHaze
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) Seed
What is the age of your plants? 1 Week
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) 1 day, pouring water over them
How tall are the plants? 10 cm, 5cm in leca
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) Rockwool with covering leca
What is the Water temperature? 24.5 celcius
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? White
What Nutrient's are you using? Metrop
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* 320L, 60 ml MR1, 60 ml Amino Root and 30 ml Calgreen, added another 10 ml of Calgreen about 2 hours ago.
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) i did made the mistake and mixed alla the nutes at once in only 1 liter of water.
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? 860 uS
What is the pH of the "Tank"? dont know yet, ph meter broke. 1 hour to store opens :)
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? yes
When was your last watering? poured water about 5 hours ago
What is your water temps? 24.5 Celsius
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) none yet
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? did run the system with chlorinewater, them filled up with new water and nutrients
What size bulb are you using? 1x400 w hps
What is the distance to the canopy? 2.5 meter, 20 m3 room
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? about 40 %
What is the canopy temperature? 25 Celsius
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) about 25 celsius all the time
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 1000 m3/h
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? a channel fan exhust through a carbon filter all the time about 1000 m3/h
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no fan since the move to the DWC
Is your water HARD or SOFT? soft
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap
Are you using water from a water softener? no
 

synergetic

New member
its brand new leca, just cleaned them with hot tapwater alot before use. maybe thats why they look so salty?

high sodium you say? is there a way to remove the sodium? convert it to something nicer? how do i measure? sodiumlevels are brand new to me.

i read in another tread that fluctuating ph levels will make the lower leafs go yellow, and then all the way up.

i will post a picture of my setup after i bought a new ph meter.
 

synergetic

New member
the site went down. uuuuh. but now i got a new ph meter. the ph was down at 4.6 ;-/
so it was a nutrient lock out then.
i will pour in more water and recircle it for a while an then pour it over the plants and perhaps then i will be back on track. this is my first hydroattempt and i will gladly post pictures of my design. the buckets are, turkish yoghurt buckets which i have put black ducttape around, and drilled alot of holes in the bottom.
thx 10k for the fast response!
the vineagar 24 % was very strong. and i dont think the plants will consume it, just have to wait to make it vaporize. peace!
 

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