Human Influenced Pollenation

[TrichomusCaesar]

Hey all...hope everyone is doin' great and chillin' in peace.

Today's topic is "When do you pollenate you fems with a selected male's pollen?"

How can you pollenate the plant early enough to have time to make A LOT of seeds yet late enough to get great bud coverage with the pollen?

I've never done my own breeding before so I'm not going to pretend to know it all....there's plenty of people here with more experience then I...so help a brutha out folks, and you'll be helping future people who visit this thread as well.

Are the windows of opportunity to do it with Indi's and Sat's different?

Tell us your experiences.

I've been like many and just wanted pure seedless bud.....but that's not the most economical way to think in the long run so I vant to explor zee vunderful vorld of zee.....F2!! lol

Thank you for your time ladies and gentlemen

 

[JLP]

The number of seeds is directly related to the number of pistils(white hairs) present at the time of pollenation.The pistils actually occur in pairs and protrude from the calyx,although a pollen grain only has to land on one for fertilization.
The general consensus is that it takes 30 days of flower after pollenation for viable seed.

With Sativas,especially long flowering ones you can generally pollenate when the maximum amount of pistils are present as long as your male last that long.
With Indicas it's a bit trickier because most finish around 60 days which means you have to pollenate at 30 days to get viable seeds and finish at normal time.The problem is that most Indicas don't have the maximum amount of pistils until about 6 weeks.What you can do however,is go ahead and pollenate at 6 weeks and then just let the plant go another couple weeks so the seeds will be viable.


JLP

 

[Guest]

I used to pollenate the seed plants but then I would have seeds in inferior plants too....


instead I now take cuttings and pollenate only the clones of the best plants....

btw you have to clone the male(s) too.....


Just another method...

 

[Elevator Man]

I would usually pollenate half-way through a bud cycle. On 8-week strains, that gives plenty of pistils, and leaves enough time to grow the seeds - though a few days extra does no harm at all. So I guess on an 8-week strain, ideally pollenate at 4 weeks, and harvest at 9.
I pollenated my Malawi Gold (12 week strain) at six weeks, and chopped the seeded branches 35 days later, and they were perfect - got over 300 seeds on two small branches. This time I'm pollenating clones under fluoros, which will give a much more seed-friendly environment, hopefully.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

what happens if a plant gets pollinated and produces seeds after 30 days but is not harvested for lets say another 2 weeks, will the seeds still be viable? paz!

 

[Verite]

Im with JLP on this one and think more than a few breeders want that 4 week+ window for the seeds to mature properly. Beyond that I want to let my females grow out to a point where I know the ones I pick are the ideal ones with the traits I want to pass on. Making seeds also takes a lot of energy out of that plant so I try to confine the seed making to the lower select branches and leave the middle and top seed free to use in the final smoke test.

 

[Thule]

I would usually pollenate half-way through a bud cycle. On 8-week strains, that gives plenty of pistils, and leaves enough time to grow the seeds - though a few days extra does no harm at all. So I guess on an 8-week strain, ideally pollenate at 4 weeks, and harvest at 9.
I pollenated my Malawi Gold (12 week strain) at six weeks, and chopped the seeded branches 35 days later, and they were perfect - got over 300 seeds on two small branches. This time I'm pollenating clones under fluoros, which will give a much more seed-friendly environment, hopefully.

Woah! I always thought that equatorial sativas take forever to mature their seeds. I once asked this question, and I was apparently misslead. Not on this forum though

I've mostly been fooling around with autoflower plants. Seeds that I picked at 20 days looked slightly immature, but all of 'em sprouted after a few weeks storage.

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

Hardcore sat's usually have a delayed flowering period because of the lack of intensity that the grower's light has....Geologically, sativas that grow at the equator are closer to the sun than any other ganja plants, thus requiring higher levels of light intensity simply because of genetics.

When you flower sats with 400W and higher....you'll see how they mature right on time.

 

[Elevator Man]

Well just to clarify this one, although I chopped the two branches I deliberately pollenated, there are seeds remaining on the plant that have done the full remaining period - i.e. 9 weeks. I pollenated at 6 weeks, and chopped at 15. And they're fine - look exactly the same.
What happens is the calyx surrounding it dies completely and goes yellow. At that point the seed just sits there. If it gets knocked severely, it falls out. Mostly they just split, and I'm pulling them out manually. But once the seeds are mature, that's it - they don't die or anything...

 

[Elevator Man]

Heree's a couple of pics of the Malawi Gold X Flo seeds 3 weeks after pollenation...already they were full-size:

 

[TNTBudSticker]

If the pods are split and yellow and the seeds are brown....Ready to be taken.

Put some male pollen on some lower budspots with lotsa pistals and brush away with pollen...careful that you dont have moving air,,You'll have buds to smoke on top and have ready seeds in 30 days in a 60 days cycle...with the 30 day polleniated from the start of flower

 

[Verite]

I have made a lot of seeds over the years and they continue to amaze me. Some seeds I thought would be big ended up unusually small like my mikado. Some matured with splits at the seems as if they pre-cracked in the calyx. Some of them like my c99 and mikado will never stripe regardless how long they mature for. Heres one of my favorite anomalies I have had happen a couple of times, the ingrown hairs.

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

haha...that is a sweet looking seed Nice pictorial elevator man.

TNT....thank you for your comment, sir