Huge plants outdoor @60N - just for juicing leaves

[Balubaba]

I'm looking for a strain that will grow huge plants with lots of big fat leaves in our long summer nights @60N.
Preferable a bit cold resistant, to maybe be able to put in the ground in late april/early may, after a relatively short indoor veg, giving it a looong outdoor veg... and the later flowering onset, the better..?

Not to mention how cool it would be just to grow plants as big as a house, even if they never starts flowering

Ace's Nepal Annapurna seems like a good candidate, but a smaller fat leaf indica might yield more juice after all?

Any thoughts or suggestions?

 

[Balubaba]

Or would it be a better approach to just grow a large indica and harvest leaves regularly through summer and early fall.. and perhaps into late fall even, as long as the half-way flowers don't start molding?

Does CBD strains produce more CBD in the fan leaves as well?
I've read something, somewhere, that plants don't start producing CBD in leaves before 3 months?
If that's true, it might be a good source of CBG?

 

[Mattbho]

Can u juice buds?

 

[Balubaba]

Of course, if I had loads of it.. I'm limited to grow outdoor only, so the buds we're able to finish up here are too precious to juice... and there's only so much soil I'm able to carry into the woods.. not to mention the high plant count for the short ghetto rigged indoor veg...

 

[iTarzan]

Lots of strains would work. This would be a good use for a long flowering sativa. Like Golden Tiger or some haze cross. Some don't finish flowering until December. You will have them all juiced by September because 60N in Oct they would be frozen.

 

[goingrey]

How about some kind of Haze hybrid like @iTarzan says? They can get HUGE if given a chance.

And for a combination of big fan leaves with vigorous growth there's OG Kush.

Not sure about cold resistance if those. But putting anything out in April at 60N is going to be risky.

 

[Balubaba]

I've been thinking about some crazy sativas too.. but the leaves seems so small in volume?

It depends on the spring each year of course.. but danish strains can normally be put outside early may with no problem.. a bit more risky with auto's, not to stunt them and no recovery time.

Some years we have temperatures barely dipping under 10C/50F until christmas. Some years we barely have any snow and frost at all, as I'm on the coast. Same with summers.. some years we only get a few days above 15C/60F... basically, we only have one and a half season

 

[Balubaba]

A sativa that normally finishes in Desember, I'm guessing wouldn't even finish stretching until November
That could be a good thing though, as long as it keeps on vegging/stretching and pumping out leaves.. but then there's the temperature that late, for an exotic girl.. or boy.. who cares if it's not for flower?

Perhaps males even produce some different minor cannabinoids as well, adding to the entourage effect?

 

[goingrey]

Some of them can have pretty decent sized fan leaves. Especially the hybrids, SSH type strains.

 

[xet]

and there's only so much soil I'm able to carry into the woods

The day before the winter snows set in ... take a shopping bag's worth of charged biochar and your seeds with you. Dig a 0.5m deep hole, drop that biochar at the bottom, cover, place a dozen seeds a half inch down, cover with grass. Come back in the spring for booming plants who sprouted on their own with real taproots and big buds in the fall.

60'N .. whew .. would have to go for the Friesland Indica https://kwikseeds.com/product/friesland-indica-ibl-heirloom-cannabis-seeds/

A pristine Canadian line of the stalwart Dutch outdoor classic. Ultra-easy and reliable for far northern or southern climes due to its superior mold and cold resistance. Flowering starts in July outdoors and finishes in mid- to late-September. This isn’t an autoflowering strain, but it is very early maturing.


Big plants with heavy branching, this Friesland Indica can yield up to 900 grams per plant. Buds are large and quite dense, with a strong dominant aroma of pine.


Yes, this is the pure Friesland (M33) and has not been hybridized.

 

[Balubaba]

edit: tried quoting, but I'm obviously to stupid

Lemme see..

 

[Balubaba]

@goingrey
But then there's the temperature issue, if I'm going with a mainly indoor hybrid... ?

@xet
Friesland won't finish here.. then I might as well go with something like Hybrid from Hell's Monk. But if they make it to the finish line, it breaks my heart even thinking about juicing those precious buds...

The large hole and letting nature take it's course was an interesting idea though... but as for snow and winter temperatures, they might sprout very early spring and die of a short frost a month later.. like i mentioned.. often we only have one and a half season here.. schizophrenic one and a half season, I might add


Also, there's something about growing a plant that can get two story high with shorter day length on lower latitudes, and see what happens up here.. but hey, if there's a better way to produce more leaves, I'm not in any way set on it

 

[Balubaba]

Nanda Devi could also be very interesting... then I could also take cuttings for sexing, and maybe even a rough pheno selection for a friend that is thinking about growing inside.. if he could just get his thumb out of his ass

 

[Hombre del mont]

@Balubaba , Excuse my ignorance, but why are you wanting to juice leaves?. It's not something I've heard of before.

 

[xet]

Friesland won't finish here

I don't believe you.

 

[Balubaba]

@Hombre del mont
Seems like an interesting and different way to medicate.
Only problem is, I think I read, years ago, that it would take up to 30 running plants to follow this protocol?

This protocol calls for buds also, of course.. but if I could grow, say, 10 humongous plants, maybe I could have enough leaves for a year at least....?



@xet
Oh, you better believe it.. would probably work @55N, like many danish strains, but up here, even only a few of the danish strains will work relatively reliably.

Once in a blue year I guess you could get lucky with strains like Friesland, Guerilla Gold or Mighty Mite and the likes though..
Unless you go for pots and some root restriction, that might help squeeze them in just in time..

Down on 50N, there's a whole other world of strains to choose from.

 

[Hombre del mont]

@Balubaba , that's very interesting.
For just over a moth now I've only been eating cobbed weed, no smoking or vaping!
I've heard some say that eating cob provides a mired of health benefits.

 

[Balubaba]

Wouldn't surprise me... most things fermented are.. hopefully I'll be able to grow a crazy sativa indoors, to cob myself one day.. from what I'm reading, I don't understand why people still bother curing the (new) old way?
Read the whole cobbing thread this winter, and been checking in for updates ever since..

 

[Hombre del mont]

Wouldn't surprise me... most things fermented are.. hopefully I'll be able to grow a crazy sativa indoors, to cob myself one day.. from what I'm reading, I don't understand why people still bother curing the (new) old way?
Read the whole cobbing thread this winter, and been checking in for updates ever since..

I agree. I wont be curing in jars ever again. I get a better tasting product in less time that has the benefits of being edible as well as smokable, And it improves with age!
When I first read about cobbing, it was a bit of a leap of faith. Like most, I was worried that I might be wasting my precious harvest, when in fact it just makes it better than ever.
I think we in the west think we know best when it comes to the herb, but in reality we've only been growing it/curing since (?) the 60's. The guys over in Africa have been at it for ever and know a shed load more than us.
I have quite a lot of jar cured weed that I don't know what to do with!
What I have found is that mixing old jar cured weed with an equal amount of fresh herb and then making cobs works as well. It seems that the microbes and moisture in the fresh weed are sufficient to wet the old dried weed and the bacteria then spread throughout the mixture. Come this years harvest, I'll be making lots more half and half cobs.
This morning I took 0.2g of half and half cob and I'm still high 8hrs later, not big time, but still noticeable. Time for a little top up. I'll take another 0.4g and that'll do me for the rest of the day; 5 weeks ago I was getting through somewhere between 3-5g/day of good well cured sun grown Sativas and I'm just as high on half a gram, if not higher! My wife has a low tolerance, 0.15g and she's high from breakfast till bedtime! My tolerance is coming down slowly and I'm experiencing effects that I've never had in all my 47yrs of smoking dope! Once you start to eat cob, I doubt you'll ever want to smoke weed again!, it's that good!

Saludos

 

[goingrey]

@goingrey
But then there's the temperature issue, if I'm going with a mainly indoor hybrid... ?

I'm guessing they'll be ok. Up to a point. Even the Danish stuff doesn't do much when the temps get down to about 10c in my experience.

But sure, makes sense to choose cold resistant strains to have better odds. I see in the ACE catalogue there are two Haze hybrids that are listed as highly cold resistant: HashPlant Haze x Kali China and Purple Haze 23 A5. For juicing the latter might be more interesting as purple plants will have anthocyanins which they say are good for you. Then again leaves of purple plants don't always taste so great so the former might be a better option in that regard.