Robin_of_Loxxy
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What do you think of this set up? Im slightly height limited at about 66" total.
let me know your suggestions
let me know your suggestions
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hows this set up look? 5x600
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Robin_of_Loxxy
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Anyone have any comments? i was thinking hempy buckets in dat bitch. I would also probably incorporate a tray with a drain to a large bucket for the overflow and water with a big wand and pump.
Do you think 4 1000 watters would work better given my height limitations?
Do you think 4 1000 watters would work better given my height limitations?
J. Greenstein
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Robin_of_Loxxy said:
Not that I have any actual growing experience but I would have thought you're going with 600's because of the height limitations.
Robin_of_Loxxy
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That was the idea yes.
J. Greenstein
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Gotta go 600's given the lack of ceiling height. I gots no hands on experience but I'm currently planning out a similar sized room (9 x 13).
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ureapwhatusow
beccause of the 3' middle isle your are not taking advantage of light spill
I run 600s and i like to run 4 in a 6' x 8'
i leave a foot aroud on the perimeter to maintian it
I run 600s and i like to run 4 in a 6' x 8'
i leave a foot aroud on the perimeter to maintian it
600's are better anyways, IMHO.
Use a 12" fan and make your manifold 12", not 10". Also a 600 is going to use a 3x3 area, so it should be a 3'x6' area and a 3'x9' area. Your hoods are also going to throw light the wrong direction, onto your walk ways. If you can rotate the hoods 90 degrees (poses a ducting issue) you will get more efficiency from your light foot prints.
Use a 12" fan and make your manifold 12", not 10". Also a 600 is going to use a 3x3 area, so it should be a 3'x6' area and a 3'x9' area. Your hoods are also going to throw light the wrong direction, onto your walk ways. If you can rotate the hoods 90 degrees (poses a ducting issue) you will get more efficiency from your light foot prints.
nice plans man. i would love to see some conclusive evidence comparing a 600 to 1000. any one done a side by side comparison?
Robin_of_Loxxy
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hmm if it lights a 3x3 area why would it matter which way it is pointing? Sorry if this is obvious....I've never used anything to flower besides a little 400 watter in a closet before so this will be my largest attempt by far!
If i do 3x6 area and a 3x9 area then it should be good to go then?
Also, would it a 12" fan blowing air to the manifold instead of the 8" sucking make a lot more sense, or maybe 10" fan to 12" reducer to 12" manifold? I have heard now that sucking hot air can ruin the fans...But it seems blazeoneup like to suck (not figuratively the mans a god)
If i do 3x6 area and a 3x9 area then it should be good to go then?
Also, would it a 12" fan blowing air to the manifold instead of the 8" sucking make a lot more sense, or maybe 10" fan to 12" reducer to 12" manifold? I have heard now that sucking hot air can ruin the fans...But it seems blazeoneup like to suck (not figuratively the mans a god)
GrassRoots
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I don't see how having a light that you would have to hang higher above the canopy would help in any way if you have a height limitation so I'd stay with the 600's. Your room reminds me of blazeoneup's room, with the large carbon filter, the a/c in the wall and the co2. Best of luck to you, looks awesome.
Edit: oops, i typed this up when there was no replies on your thread but forgot to post 'till now. sorry for the repeat answer.
Edit: oops, i typed this up when there was no replies on your thread but forgot to post 'till now. sorry for the repeat answer.
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as far as fans go the larger the better. temps change anually and you my end up with too much heat. your design looks good. i hope it all works out as planned.
GrassRoots
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I just read on canfan's website that they can handle an air inlet temperature of 170 degrees. I have a 6'' connected to 2 600's that sucks and I mount it in my hot ass attic and I have had no problems (1 year so far).
Robin_of_Loxxy
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Thanks for the replies and warm words guys I really appreciate it.
Yea i definitely am influenced by blaze in the design!
We are pumping some ISS clones through her when its ready. The moms are bushing up as we speak in hempy buckets.
Yea i definitely am influenced by blaze in the design!
We are pumping some ISS clones through her when its ready. The moms are bushing up as we speak in hempy buckets.
I must have not made myself clear. You want to pull air, not push.
Reflectors often don't throw a square foot print. The narrower parts of the reflector send light farther out of their sides, so you want that light thrown on your plants, not your walk ways.
I highly suggest Super Sun 2 reflectors for 600w's. They're made by Sunlight Supply.
No reducers. You simply are pulling 2 - 8" ducts into a 12" fan. Your intake, in the back of the room, should also be 12". The more cfm flowing through, the better. You don't want to have your 12000 btu ac running constantly... effective air flow will help a lot.
Reflectors often don't throw a square foot print. The narrower parts of the reflector send light farther out of their sides, so you want that light thrown on your plants, not your walk ways.
I highly suggest Super Sun 2 reflectors for 600w's. They're made by Sunlight Supply.
No reducers. You simply are pulling 2 - 8" ducts into a 12" fan. Your intake, in the back of the room, should also be 12". The more cfm flowing through, the better. You don't want to have your 12000 btu ac running constantly... effective air flow will help a lot.
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yamaha_1fan
IMO here is my input, I could be wrong.
I think the areas are too big. Shorten them up or use bigger lights (which may not be an option)
I also think the air cooling has a kink in it. I would think that air would take the path of least resistance. So it seem like your fan would pull air through the two hoods and not much air would come through the 3 hoods. ??
I have usually heard that pulling air is more effective than pushing. I happen to push. Pulling will pull grow room air out through cracks in hoods, ductwork etc so make sure to keep it all sealed up and use a filter on the end.
Listen to MR C. It is better to over build than to be in the middle of summer with your A/C running non stop and temps still be 90+ in the room while you kick your self in the ass for not installing a bigger fan and duct.
I think the areas are too big. Shorten them up or use bigger lights (which may not be an option)
I also think the air cooling has a kink in it. I would think that air would take the path of least resistance. So it seem like your fan would pull air through the two hoods and not much air would come through the 3 hoods. ??
I have usually heard that pulling air is more effective than pushing. I happen to push. Pulling will pull grow room air out through cracks in hoods, ductwork etc so make sure to keep it all sealed up and use a filter on the end.
Listen to MR C. It is better to over build than to be in the middle of summer with your A/C running non stop and temps still be 90+ in the room while you kick your self in the ass for not installing a bigger fan and duct.
Robin_of_Loxxy
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I think you guys are right
I had the same thought as the path of least resistance earlier yamaha....
Hmmmmmmmssszzzzzzzy well off to the drawing board I have a little something cooked up though...Thinkin 6x600, move it to 2 rows of 3 lights, move it all to the middle of the room all together with walkways on edge of room....Apparently bigger fan...
Hai MR Celsius, how would I bring the 2 8" ducts into the 12 fan? Is there a special Y that goes from 12 to 2 8"? I'm definitely going to be pulling/sucking alright alright!
I had the same thought as the path of least resistance earlier yamaha....
Hmmmmmmmssszzzzzzzy well off to the drawing board I have a little something cooked up though...Thinkin 6x600, move it to 2 rows of 3 lights, move it all to the middle of the room all together with walkways on edge of room....Apparently bigger fan...
Hai MR Celsius, how would I bring the 2 8" ducts into the 12 fan? Is there a special Y that goes from 12 to 2 8"? I'm definitely going to be pulling/sucking alright alright!
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Robin_of_Loxxy
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Here is my updated plan. I think this may be on the right rack!
IDK if there's a 12" to 8" Y, but on this site: http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ct+Y&um=1&hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS254DE255&sa=N there is 10" to 8", you could get a 12" to 10" reducer to attach to the Y to make it 12".
I like this plan a lot more. What you can do to equalize the draw of air, is actually have your intake manifold draw air from the center of it, instead of from one of the sides of it. Or you could make the first intake slightly smaller to equalize the draw of air.
I like this plan a lot more. What you can do to equalize the draw of air, is actually have your intake manifold draw air from the center of it, instead of from one of the sides of it. Or you could make the first intake slightly smaller to equalize the draw of air.
J. Greenstein
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Hey Robin, is that door location fixed or can you put it wherever? I just hope you're much skinnier than I, cuz you gots 1' on 2 sides and 1.5' on the other 2 siders to get about.
Robin_of_Loxxy
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Heh the door placement isnt fixed, but I AM pretty skinny hahaha. The room is actually going to be custom built on top of another room, so I can probably stretch out the size to be about 11'10" by about 10' for maximum size. That was the main reason my first design was like it was is because I wasnt sure how much space I would need to move about. Obviously I want to maximize space utilization and yield but I would also want to not have too much hassle tending it. Im 5,10ish 150lbs do you think I will be able to move about in there to water etc?
MR C im not sure exactly if your referring to my latest plan, I figured that with both runs having 3 lights they would draw evenly as is. Do you think I should make the furthest right port on the manifold have a 10 to 8" reducer from the manifold so it will pull more air?
Thanks again for all the comments!
MR C im not sure exactly if your referring to my latest plan, I figured that with both runs having 3 lights they would draw evenly as is. Do you think I should make the furthest right port on the manifold have a 10 to 8" reducer from the manifold so it will pull more air?
Thanks again for all the comments!
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