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hi i am just about to repot my plants for the first time, i am a first time grower and would like to know the safest and right way of doing this could some1 plz help me out, thx 
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Yep, you get yourself a bigger pot then the plant is currently in, remove the plant out of the old one, and stick it in the new, bigger pot with some fresh soil. You could break up the rootball a bit if you wanted, and this is a bit easier if the soil is dry, comes out of the old pot easier. There ya have it, repotting your plant....Oh yes, maybe throw a bit of H2O on top of the new soil after you have repotted, depends if you like to use water or not.... Good luck.
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ok thx nofindtime, should i give them a good dose of h2o till it runs through new pots? or is that to much? hopefully i will post some pics later, laters
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I use HPS lights, so I drench my plants and I mean drench, after a repot, If you use Flouro's then dont use as much to water them down, I only say this because HPS lights, 1000K, or even smaller, will dry soil out alot quicker due to the heat, but flouro's dont. My two cents are only worth a Penny, Peace, Nofind
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thx again, im using a 400w hps light, so it looks like im gonna give them a drenching,,, when u say drench them am i right in sayin u mean to keep giving them water till it runs out of the bottom of the pot?
lumbo
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If you're asking the best way to get the plant out of the old pot and into a new one, just put your hand across the rim of the pot with the plant's stem between your fingers, flip the whole works upside down, squeeze the bottom of the pot with your other hand (if the pot is flexible), then pull the pot away from the root mass. Gently put the plant into the new pot with a layer of soil already on the bottom, fill in around the sides with more soil, press it in gently around the plant, and then water liberally. The fresh soil will soak up the water.
Your plants will probably appear to stall out for a few days as they build new root mass. Don't get discouraged or panic. Once the new roots are in place, the plant will take off.
Good luck!
Your plants will probably appear to stall out for a few days as they build new root mass. Don't get discouraged or panic. Once the new roots are in place, the plant will take off.
Good luck!
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yeah thats what i was askin lumbo thx, i have just transplanted them using ur method. thx for the heads up on plants stalling as im a natural worrier lol. all in all i think im doing ok for my first grow i couldnt of done it without all the help from every1, only concern i have is that they dont seem to be growing that tall, i have been vegging for 18days and they are only 2-3inch in height, is this normal? thx again
lumbo
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If you're worried about height, make sure your light is close enough to the plant and consider using some form of training method. I use Low Stress Training (LST). I've got a thread on here somewhere describing the LST basics and my not-patented rubber band technique. I'll post the link later when I get the time to dig it up.
Got a pic?
Got a pic?
Blackmelo
Active member
hey hey Rhino. Good question that still not alot of ppl are doing right.
The BEST way to do it is fill the new pot with a bit of soil so the old pot fits nicely in the new pot, flush with the top. Soak this soil a bit. Then place the old pot into the new pot and fill up the sides with soil. Soak this soil a bit too. Remove the old pot in the new pot after a minute or so when the water has soaked in. The water is very important as it holds the soil in place as you remove the pot in the middle.
Now remove the plant like lumbo descibes and place it into this hole that you have just created.
Good Luck. Oh you have already transplanted.... lol.
The BEST way to do it is fill the new pot with a bit of soil so the old pot fits nicely in the new pot, flush with the top. Soak this soil a bit. Then place the old pot into the new pot and fill up the sides with soil. Soak this soil a bit too. Remove the old pot in the new pot after a minute or so when the water has soaked in. The water is very important as it holds the soil in place as you remove the pot in the middle.
Now remove the plant like lumbo descibes and place it into this hole that you have just created.
Good Luck. Oh you have already transplanted.... lol.
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i have the light about 12-14inch away from plants its a 400w hps, will have a look at training techniques thx, if u find the link much appreciated, will have a pic later.
lumbo
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Blackmelo's method works well. Don't panic if the soil around the void collapses before you get the root mass in there. Just do it again.
Here's the rubber band LST link:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=20228&page=1&pp=15
Here's the rubber band LST link:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=20228&page=1&pp=15
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thx 4 the link, i know now they wouldnt be strong enough for that as the stems are to thin. will have a pic in 30mins all being well
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After you get comfortable with repotting,you should just be able to pull it straight out of the pot.What I do is let the rootball fill the container well,dont transplant until you find you have to water every other day.Let thye soil go dry but not 100% dry and loosen the rootball from the pot,grabbing the stem right down at dirt level pull straight up holding larger pots with youur fett and smaller pots with your other hand.I transplant all my plants this way,even small plants from 4 inch to 2 gallon pots.Thats why its so important to use an oscillating fan from the very start to make the stalk good and strong.Always have your second pot ready and full of soil to the predetermined point so you can just set your plant in and fill along the sides.I like to take an empty pot the same size as the pot I'm transplanting out of and use it to make an "indentation" in the soil in the new pot.Just go clockwise and counterclockwise in the dirt pushing lightly so the pot will just "set" in the indentation
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some pics
some pics
thx skeletor i did use same size cup to indent, i do not have a oscillating fan, i have got 2 surface fans and 1 extraction fan fitted with a carbon filter. here are some pics they are 18days into veg
let me know how im doing, i feeding with bio bizz bloom at quarter strength every 3rd feed and ph is 5.8-6.0, do i need to up the nuits now? if so to what strength, half?
some pics
thx skeletor i did use same size cup to indent, i do not have a oscillating fan, i have got 2 surface fans and 1 extraction fan fitted with a carbon filter. here are some pics they are 18days into veg
let me know how im doing, i feeding with bio bizz bloom at quarter strength every 3rd feed and ph is 5.8-6.0, do i need to up the nuits now? if so to what strength, half?
lumbo
Member
I'd say that plant is a little young for any ferts, much less a stronger dose. In my experience, they don't need ferting until they're about 3 weeks old, or until the first set of leaves begins to turn pale green to yellow. Plenty of room in that pot now for that plant. Looking good, bro!
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nice 1 i will just give them ph'd water then for another week or so and see how they grow lol i have noticed on 1 of them the 1st set are turnin pale green/yellow.
CaptainTrips
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astronaut said:
Sounds like BS to me. I wouldn't be blowin em over or anything with a fan, but causing more males? Sounds like crap to me.
Notcoolzeuss
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Hey RhinoJay. Nice work. I too, am in the middle of my very first grow. I'm at day 15 of flower. I have 16 clones, all Reeferman strains, 4 Love Potion, 4 Willie Nelson, 4 G13 x Black Widow, and 4 Vipers. They were given to me as unrooted cuttings, about 2 inches high, all in 8 ounce plastic cups. They took a while to root, but eventually all of them did. I was nervous about transplanting too, and asked many over at OG exactly how to do it. I can't remember his name, but the best advice I got was about preparing the new soil. It worked wonders for me. I went directly from tiny 8 ounce plastic cups to 3 gallon grow bags. Many, many, people told me this was a mistake, and that my plants would not make sufficient use of all 3 gallons. Most told me that I should transplant to a 1 gallon first, let the roots grow, and then transplant to a 3 gallon. Well, I proved everyone wrong as my plants are doing fantastic, and all have roots showing at the bottom of the 3 gallon grow bags.
I found that the 2 keys to getting the roots to make use of their new home was:
Although I used no ferts,nutes, until the transplant, I did use micronutes in the new soil. Specifically Superthrive and Liquid Karma. I transplanted one plant with no Superthrive and LQ, and it was the slowest to expand it's roots.
Also, and this was the best advice I've received from another grower to date, when transplanting, prepare the new soil just before transplant. Take your new container, and fill it with a 1 to 2 inch layer of soil. Wet this soil with 1 drop ST, and 1 capful LQ per gallon of water. Press the layer of soil down. THIS IS KEY Do not compact the soil too much, as it will prevent oxygen from getting to the roots, and they will have difficulty expanding. Keep on layering the soil, a few inches, wet, compact, repeat. Do this until you have filled your new container all the way. When you transplant, you only need to water liberally around the rootball. You now have soil that is thoroughly soaked from top to bottom. When I did this, I compacted the soil too much on two plants. These plants started to curl up pretty bad. I aerated the soil with a bubble wand amd aquarium pump. After two days, they were recovering.
Although this method almost killed two of my girls, it was obvious to me that having pre-soaked soil before transplant was key to root growth. Now I feel as though I know exactly how much to compact the wet soil prior to transplant. It's a fine line. You want wet soil for the roots to grow, but if you wet and compact the soil too much, the roots will have difficulty stretching, and they won't get enough Oxygen. At day 15 of flower, my biggest girl, a Viper has 25 bud sites on it as of yesterday. They are all VERY bushy. I would highly recommend this transplant method.
Please take all I say with a grain of salt as I have not completed my first grow yet. I don't pretend to be an expert, but I certainly like sharing what feel I have learned already. Keep up the good work. You're doing great so far.
Peace
I found that the 2 keys to getting the roots to make use of their new home was:
Although I used no ferts,nutes, until the transplant, I did use micronutes in the new soil. Specifically Superthrive and Liquid Karma. I transplanted one plant with no Superthrive and LQ, and it was the slowest to expand it's roots.
Also, and this was the best advice I've received from another grower to date, when transplanting, prepare the new soil just before transplant. Take your new container, and fill it with a 1 to 2 inch layer of soil. Wet this soil with 1 drop ST, and 1 capful LQ per gallon of water. Press the layer of soil down. THIS IS KEY Do not compact the soil too much, as it will prevent oxygen from getting to the roots, and they will have difficulty expanding. Keep on layering the soil, a few inches, wet, compact, repeat. Do this until you have filled your new container all the way. When you transplant, you only need to water liberally around the rootball. You now have soil that is thoroughly soaked from top to bottom. When I did this, I compacted the soil too much on two plants. These plants started to curl up pretty bad. I aerated the soil with a bubble wand amd aquarium pump. After two days, they were recovering.
Although this method almost killed two of my girls, it was obvious to me that having pre-soaked soil before transplant was key to root growth. Now I feel as though I know exactly how much to compact the wet soil prior to transplant. It's a fine line. You want wet soil for the roots to grow, but if you wet and compact the soil too much, the roots will have difficulty stretching, and they won't get enough Oxygen. At day 15 of flower, my biggest girl, a Viper has 25 bud sites on it as of yesterday. They are all VERY bushy. I would highly recommend this transplant method.
Please take all I say with a grain of salt as I have not completed my first grow yet. I don't pretend to be an expert, but I certainly like sharing what feel I have learned already. Keep up the good work. You're doing great so far.
Peace
