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How To Protect Your Internet Use??

Guest423

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How do you guys protect yourselves? with everyone posting pics and what not how do you protect your ip address? i know a few people on the board that would like to post pics but want better protection, with everything that has went down in the last 6 months it's better to be as safe as you can just in case. thanks
 

Guest423

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yeah but who do you trust these days? i know people have other methods just to be more safe.
 

Guest423

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i'm comfortable here too, but isn't there anything u can do? i remember when i first got here everyone was talking about how they do all these downloads to there computer to throw off your ip addy.
 
M

marguzz22

everyone talked that og is the safest on the net , was it ? to keep safe dont post shit about growing , I mean why do you need to?Grow and do your thing , dont have to brag and talk specificly about it ( pictures , room etc.etc)
 

Bramski

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Go here and spend 15 minutes learning what a proxy is about and how to it up. http://www.proxy-server.info/

You can also check and see if you're internet traffic is being intercepted illegaly by the NSA if you are in the states by following the instructions below. To be honest though, if you get busted via a weed forum it's probably down to a gaping hole in your personal security offline that will cause it. Surfing forums is not a viable way for cops to catch people growing a few plants in their home.

The Newbie's Guide to Detecting the NSA
http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/index.blog?entry_id=1510938

If you're a Windows user, fire up an MS-DOS command prompt. Now type tracert followed by the domain name of the website, e-mail host, VoIP switch, or whatever destination you're interested in. Watch as the program spits out your route, line by line:

C:\> tracert (any website)

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 12.110.110.204
[...]
7 11 ms 14 ms 10 ms as-0-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.0.218]
8 13 12 19 ms ae-23-56.car3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.123.173]
9 18 ms 16 ms 16 ms 192.205.33.17
10 88 ms 92 ms 91 ms tbr2-p012201.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.186]
11 88 ms 90 ms 88 ms tbr1-cl2.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.41]
12 89 ms 97 ms 89 ms tbr1-cl4.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.10.29]
13 89 ms 88 ms 88 ms ar2-a3120s6.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.65]
14 102 ms 93 ms 112 ms 12.127.209.214
15 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms 12.110.110.13
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * *

In the above example, my traffic is jumping from Level 3 Communications to AT&T's network in San Francisco, presumably over the OC-48 circuit that AT&T tapped on February 20th, 2003, according to the Klein docs.

The magic string you're looking for is sffca.ip.att.net. If it's present immediately above or below a non-att.net entry, then -- by Klein's allegations -- your packets are being copied into room 641A, and from there, illegally, to the NSA.
 
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Verite

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Best way to arm yourself is with knowledge. Best way is to break down your fears and paranoia into managable logical flow charting.

1. What are you afraid of?
2. Has anyone ever been busted because of question #1?
3. Have you or anyone youve known been the first one busted by any new methods or laws?

If no one is being busted by the methods you are afraid of then by definition its useless paranoia and your time would be better spent worrying about the security measures you should be paranoid about.

If getting IP address translated into home/customer info was easy by any extent of the law then the music and film industry would have shit loads of people in court on a daily basis. The fact they have tons of lawyers and still cant get this info should let you know how hard it is to get your personal information.

The basic jist has always been a judge needs to sign a warrant for specific things before your personal info is released. No judge is going to sign a warrant for a fishing for people expedition on a website because the basis of the warrant violates constitutional rights of the people.

p.s thanks for the humor on detecting the NSA by using the traceroute command. This works about as well as pouring sand in your gas tank to get better gas miles. If the NSA or anyone else for that matter is sniffing your packets its not like your going to see them show up as a pit stop in your traceroutes from point A to B.

When the nsa or any govt branch with the right clearance needs to see whats going on they just "look" because the base ownership of the internet in its entireity still belongs to the US govt.

The govt controls the use of the 13 root servers which manages all the primary DNS queries [ translates IP addys to named addresses like yahoo.com, etc ] that happen on the internet. When they need to see whats going on Im sure thats where they start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver
 

Bramski

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Verite said:
p.s thanks for the humor on detecting the NSA by using the traceroute command. This works about as well as pouring sand in your gas tank to get better gas miles. If the NSA or anyone else for that matter is sniffing your packets its not like your going to see them show up as a pit stop in your traceroutes from point A to B.

When the nsa or any govt branch with the right clearance needs to see whats going on they just "look" because the base ownership of the internet in its entireity still belongs to the US govt.



http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70910-0.html
 

Guest423

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Verite said:
Best way to arm yourself is with knowledge. Best way is to break down your fears and paranoia into managable logical flow charting.

1. What are you afraid of?
2. Has anyone ever been busted because of question #1?
3. Have you or anyone youve known been the first one busted by any new methods or laws?

If no one is being busted by the methods you are afraid of then by definition its useless paranoia and your time would be better spent worrying about the security measures you should be paranoid about.

If getting IP address translated into home/customer info was easy by any extent of the law then the music and film industry would have shit loads of people in court on a daily basis. The fact they have tons of lawyers and still cant get this info should let you know how hard it is to get your personal information.

The basic jist has always been a judge needs to sign a warrant for specific things before your personal info is released. No judge is going to sign a warrant for a fishing for people expedition on a website because the basis of the warrant violates constitutional rights of the people.

p.s thanks for the humor on detecting the NSA by using the traceroute command. This works about as well as pouring sand in your gas tank to get better gas miles. If the NSA or anyone else for that matter is sniffing your packets its not like your going to see them show up as a pit stop in your traceroutes from point A to B.

When the nsa or any govt branch with the right clearance needs to see whats going on they just "look" because the base ownership of the internet in its entireity still belongs to the US govt.

The govt controls the use of the 13 root servers which manages all the primary DNS queries [ translates IP addys to named addresses like yahoo.com, etc ] that happen on the internet. When they need to see whats going on Im sure thats where they start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver


1. some people are affraid to add pics because if anything does go down they are more likely to be pursued, when og went down alot of people tore down their grows and got paranoid because of the fact they were scared because they posted pics.

2. no one knows, if they do get caught they don't tell, also alot of people disappeared.

3. nope, but i wouldn't want me or anyone i know to be the 2nd,3rd, or 4th person to get caught.

talking openly online about your grows and showing pics is probably your biggest security let down if your a normal smart grower, no one in your whole town could no you grow but then you go online and talk about your grows and show pics...which would have greater risk? i personally didn't shut anything down and i didn't even get paranoid for one minute when everything with cw and og was going down, but i never posted pics either so i figured i'd be one of the last people they would be looking for.

i don't want to start an argument or debates on anything i was just wondering if people used anything to ease there mind a little more.
 

Verite

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Time2Unite said:
1. some people are affraid to add pics because if anything does go down they are more likely to be pursued, when og went down alot of people tore down their grows and got paranoid because of the fact they were scared because they posted pics.

2. no one knows, if they do get caught they don't tell, also alot of people disappeared.

3. nope, but i wouldn't want me or anyone i know to be the 2nd,3rd, or 4th person to get caught.

talking openly online about your grows and showing pics is probably your biggest security let down if your a normal smart grower, no one in your whole town could no you grow but then you go online and talk about your grows and show pics...which would have greater risk? i personally didn't shut anything down and i didn't even get paranoid for one minute when everything with cw and og was going down, but i never posted pics either so i figured i'd be one of the last people they would be looking for.

i don't want to start an argument or debates on anything i was just wondering if people used anything to ease there mind a little more.


You seem resistant to absorb any of the info you quoted me on. My recommendation at this point would be to talk to a lawyer because the act of paying them upwards of $200 an hour should be the motivation needed to retain the info they tell you. A lawyer is going to tell you that the only pictures admissable in court are the ones where the picture taker testifies to taking the original picture. The same layer should tell you that your 5th amendment rights are also the right to not incriminate yourself. If you dont testify that you took the pictures then they arent admissable in court. Especially if the prosecution has to admit to obtaining their copies of the photos from an anonymous post on an internet website.

As long as youre not stupid enough to drag your plants into the front yard and take pics of you and your face with the plants in front of your house address numbers with a thread title " Shout out, all you NE suburban Austin, Texas growers !! " you got nothing to worry about.
 
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