How to beat the electricity use snooper

[alpinestar]

i dont have to deal with this problem, but i figured out a solution

run two rooms
one will be on while the other is off

run more lights than you need per room and make them smaller
then only run each light a few hours at a time during that 12 hour period
ie

6 lights in each room

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Room 1 on room 2 off
12:00 lights 1 and 6 on
1:00 lights 1 3 5 on
2:00 lights 1 3 4 6 on
3:00 lights 2 4 6 on
4:00 lights 3 and 5 on
5:00 lights 1 and 6 on
6:00 lights 1 3 5 on
7:00 lights 1 3 4 6 on
8:00 lights 2 4 6 on
9:00 lights 3 and 5 on
10:00 lights 1 and 6 on
11:00 lights 1 3 5 on
12:00 lights off room 1 lights 1 and 6 on room 2
1:00 lights 1 3 5 on
2:00 lights 1 3 4 6 on
3:00 lights 2 4 6 on
4:00 lights 3 and 5 on
5:00 lights 1 and 6 on
6:00 lights 1 3 5 on
7:00 lights 1 3 4 6 on
8:00 lights 2 4 6 on
9:00 lights 3 and 5 on
10:00 lights 1 and 6 on
11:00 lights 1 3 5 on

even if you were using a lot of power it would always be having those cut offs because the lights would keep switching , so it would look like you just had a lot of random electrical equipment running, rather that one large solid use that has a cut off at 12 hours

 

[lysol]

An article in a HT mag my friend gave me details this guy who had a setup, he had like 10 lights and he ran half in a zig-zag pattern for half the day and half the other half of the day, and INCREASED yields while decreasing energy consumption.

 

[80sMeltDown]

I read that in HT also. Indeed, a very unique perspective
on Light Power usage. With the exception of needing an ASS of lights.

 

[Verite]

When the snooper measures the whole houses usage how does flip-flopping lights between rooms help at all? Doesnt make much sense.

 

[GreenintheThumb]

When POlice come to investigate you they'll be looking at your kw/hr per month...they aren't ganna waste the resources to come break down that data further.

When they're on to you it's most likely a different reason than electricity usage but regardless they'll try to use it on their warrant. Rooms that flip flop don't lower your usage of electricity...

 

[alpinestar]

When the snooper measures the whole houses usage how does flip-flopping lights between rooms help at all? Doesnt make much sense.

I'm talking about the modern snoopers used in areas like the Netherlands that can track a lot more information than the traditional type does

This isnt so much about the total amount of use; that you cant beat. This is to beat the machines that measure the amount being used at a given moment and send the data out digitally

There are different breaks in the amount of power being used throughout the day instead of 12 hours of consistent use - that is what those machines watch. This makes it looks like lots of small random shit is just being turned on and off throughout the day

Even if someone was to have 12 on in one room them 12 on in the other to have a constant 24 hours, it would be a lot of that same constant draw, and there couldn't be a seamless transition, and these machines could pick up that spike of off time

its about breaking up the simple 12 hour pattern, without breaking it up.

 

[stoneroad]

man i tell you what you can cycle it with out any breaks its all about how you do it.
im a generator mechanic for a place and we can power a whole city block with a 100k and then switch to a diff 100k with out any interuption its all about your tools and how you use them.

 

[OrganicMeds]

Why don't you use two rooms, one growing legal plants like Cacti & a second really well hidden room or cab that has your cannabis.

Then when the law see's your legal room, hopefully they wont look to hard for a second room.

Cacti can also be very rewarding to grow

 

[Moldy Dreads]

When the snooper measures the whole houses usage how does flip-flopping lights between rooms help at all? Doesnt make much sense.

Exactly, Verite beat me to the punch, all the judge wants to see is a total use per month compared to the other apartments/houses nearby to issue a warrant. They don't look at any further breakdown. I have a copy of one, so I know..

 

[stoneroad]

what kinda cacti you talking about Orgmed? he he he pe ao tay?

 

[79towncar]

Exactly, Verite beat me to the punch, all the judge wants to see is a total use per month compared to the other apartments/houses nearby to issue a warrant. They don't look at any further breakdown. I have a copy of one, so I know..

Yea I feel the same way.. The energy useage as a whole is what they look at.. Yea they may look for 12 hour spikes and so forth. But even if you have 1k running 12/12 I think that's less likely to raise suspicion then if you had 4k running flip flop... Also what is the excuse for having power running constantly.. Especially at that rate.. But to each there own.. The only benefit to me of flip flop is that you can use half the ballasts..

 

[Verite]

Also pretty much any electric company that offers non-peak usage rates knows when your using your watts. Wouldnt be much of a stretch to think that info might be passed on. Imo if they are looking at your records you did something else that brought them to that as its unlikely they would be allowed to sift thru records to look for evidence.

 

[alpinestar]

the snooper wasnt for looking into your total use, this one is used to probe into what is going on, and the police were using it to look for 12 hour periods to assist in busting growers

 

[antimatter]

sounds like there desperate

 

[Verite]

the snooper wasnt for looking into your total use, this one is used to probe into what is going on, and the police were using it to look for 12 hour periods to assist in busting growers

My point is in my country they arent allowed to snoop without a warrant. If they have a warrant then you screwed up someplace else. Using any device to snoop or get any records that arent public requires a valid warrant.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

My point is in my country they arent allowed to snoop without a warrant. If they have a warrant then you screwed up someplace else. Using any device to snoop or get any records that arent public requires a valid warrant.

Like Verite mentioned, Police don't go after random light bills to start investigations, nor do electric companies send the police a bunch of questionable bills.. Light bills are only looked at as supporting evidence to gain a warrant to enter the premises once a narc or someone else tips them off to a specific address.

 

[elfstone]

Is a single 1000W lamp at all going to arouse suspicion? I really doubt it.

According to the Environmental Protection Agency, a 42-inch LCD set uses 200 watts of electricity, a 42-inch plasma model uses between 200 to 500 watts and a 60-inch plasma screen consumes 500 to 600 watts, equivalent to a typical clothes washer and dryer combined.

If you have a couple running during the day, seems that would be average U.S. usage.

 

[Oliver Pantsoff]

^^^^^Uhh, no...You don't have anything to worry about at all>>>

OP

 

[WaterWerkz]

Good rule of thumb, never draw more in a stash grow than your two largest appliances together...

being A/C, and water heater

That is if you have a wireless meter than transmits power data to a company truck that roles down your street. My electric service states on their site that it can track statistical usage over one month.