how much yield can i expect?

[vindiesel]

coming up on 1st grow very soon. will be in a 5 cubic foot area tent. 36"WX20"DX5'high. 4, maaaaybe 5 plants. either regular grow w/ alittle cropping or a SCROG. 250W CMH. have paradise fem ice cream and bog bogglegum beans to germ. prob gonna go with the ice cream on 1st try. i hear all different things on how many g's to expect, everything from less than a 1/2g per watt up to 1g per watt. what is realistic to expect with either of these strains, and 250CMH, considering everything goes good? i will be using soil, probably fox farm, with extra perlite, blood and bone meal, superthrive, FF big bloom, pure blend grow, pure blend bloom and earth juice nutes, all used in moderation as per bog's recommendations in his book. just trying to get an idea of what to expect. i'd b happy as shit if i yield 5oz of nice cured bud...
thanks.

 

[vindiesel]

i also am about to get pre 98 bubba kushXEII, which i can also use, i think that is a low yielder though, not sure. i hear ice cream is a hardy fast grower, with good yield. reason i'll prob use those first is cuz IF i do F up somehow, wouldn't want to have wasted superior genetic beans (bogglegum, kush)....

 

[Guest]

It's a really hard question to answer but 5oz seems to high for your wattage plus your flowering with a MH right? I would say 3-5 ounces just wait and see.

 

[vindiesel]

i'm veggin and flowering with a CMH, much more efficient and stronger all around, than a MH or HPS, but that's a whole other topic....

 

[Guest]

To start out with, 4 plants should be good, IMHO, in that space. that will give each plant 18" x 10" spot in the canopy (SOG method). now, you have 5 ft, back out 1ft for the height of the pot (planter) and another 1ft for the light and space from the light, so you should aim for 3ft plants at finish. that means flip them to 12/12 when they are about 12" or so. With those specs, a good goal would be 1 oz per plant, totalling 4 zips. that would be good for a first grow, as you improve your skills, add new techniques (SCROG, lst), get used to the needs of your strain, and dial things in, you can go for 1.5 to 2 zips per plant as a goal. just give them love and dont overdue the ferts. Best of luck.

4 zips is my guess. 128 g dry, or roughly 1/2 gram per watt. definitely do-able.

- n dubbya

 

[sophisto]

You know these questions are always hard to answer...

If you veg them for a long time and LST or scrog em along the way you could yield big from 4 plants....

State your goal and then it is easier to direct you....

Here is some of my bro's Ice Creams:




His goal has been to yield 1 pound under a thousand.....He has 20 plants in a stadium setup, kinda like a V.. The square footage of the grow area is 4x4 with the stadium he gets 5x4... Also as the plants get rotated around the setup the upper two levels get great side lighting from top to bottom of the plant. This simply means he is maximizing his bulb... The grow consists of 20 plants 1 per sq ft...He vegged them 3 weeks and being as though the pics are taken at the end of week 3 flowering, he just might get his pound pretty easy.....100 percent organically....

Your 250 could work wonders vertically on 4 plants....Big Bushy bud producers...

 

[greenhead]

First grow I assume ?

Figure .5 grams per watt. You might very well get more, but since you're asking a hypothetical question with a million different factors involved, it's better to be on the safe side.

So, I say - 125 grams

Just go to the 250 HPS thread and see what those guys are pulling, and you'll see that the final haul varies a lot. There's your answer.

 

[Guest]

my first grow i got .65 grams per watt uner 600 watts with 1 month veg. you have to account for veg time, and really REALLY do you best to fill your canope or you squander the yield potencial. i agree that you should go with the fem ice cream first. it will be easy to grow and you get all females. save the bog for a 2nd grow, you are gona want that grow to be perfect becasue bog seeds are so hard to come by now a days.

 

[vindiesel]

To start out with, 4 plants should be good, IMHO, in that space. that will give each plant 18" x 10" spot in the canopy (SOG method). now, you have 5 ft, back out 1ft for the height of the pot (planter) and another 1ft for the light and space from the light, so you should aim for 3ft plants at finish. that means flip them to 12/12 when they are about 12" or so. With those specs, a good goal would be 1 oz per plant, totalling 4 zips. that would be good for a first grow, as you improve your skills, add new techniques (SCROG, lst), get used to the needs of your strain, and dial things in, you can go for 1.5 to 2 zips per plant as a goal. just give them love and dont overdue the ferts. Best of luck.

4 zips is my guess. 128 g dry, or roughly 1/2 gram per watt. definitely do-able.

- n dubbya

really? if i flip to 12/12 at 1ft, they will end up 3ft end of flower...?i was wondering how much they grow in between end of veg and end of flowering...i didn't think 2 ft though. thanks...
yeah my goal on 1st is 5z. that's .56g per watt. if i go scrog, which i very well may, i'm aiming alittle higher. we'll see. would b nice if i had bigger area to veg longer but not possible right now, and i feel i have a nice setup, especially on 1st grow. also i hear the CMH really grows them tight and bushy. it's getting exciting for me. not far away... 1 day it's regular grow, with alittle cropping, next day, like 2day i'm thinking of scrogging...

 

[Guest]

now remember, i am by no means the final authority in this, or a master gardener like some on this site, but i know enough to grow my trees. that being said, here's my 2 cents....

I stand by my flip to 12/12 at 1ft IF you plan to go with the SOG method. Plants grown in that manner have a single top cola (with minimal side branching), and will easily double in size after the flip. They can grow more than that, therefore it is a conservative estimate that will avoid you reaching a "ceiling". There are several threads about growth after the 12/12 flip, the stretch as we call it, where people discuss how much to plan for. Basically, the longer you vegg, the shorter the stretch, and conversly the shorter the vegg, the longer the stretch. 3 months is consider long veg to cause short stretch. So a single cola 1ft plant is going to grow A LOT when you make the change. Now if you choose SCROG or LST, this figure can be reduced because the plant has mutliple lead shoots, its bent over, and everything has to grow at the same time, slowing overall vertical progress. I've experienced as little at 6-8 inches this way. so take that into consideration.

As far as your goal of 0.56 grams per watt, I would like to reference a recent 20/20 story on Happiness. A British study concluded that Denmark was the happiest country in the world. Their best explanation of this was that Denmark's people have relatively low expectations, so they often find themselves getting more than they had hoped for. The US by comparison, with its high expections, was fairly unhappy.

Best of luck to you and have fun with your first grow.

N Dubbya

 

[vindiesel]

thanks.