How many strains ?

[gnosis]

I know that there's people that can set apart different whiskeys (and then they just can't tell them apart in a blind test.. hmmm), and others that can pinpoint the roast of a coffee bean.. but lets be serious, for most people, those differences don't really exist.

In a real blind test (blind like you don't see what you taste at all, aka blind), I most often can't set apart a 15€ whisky from a 25€ whisky (I tried with friends... who could tell the differences until I asked to close eyes to not even see the color.. at this point no more differences were found).

I love eating, I love music and whatever. I have perfectly working tastebuds, and my friends call me a good cooker.

But for some products, and especially drugs like alcohol or MJ, differences are terribly overblown IMO and most of people who pretend making differences are, I think, self delusional (or are professionals who make a living of selling or reviewing those products).

If you give me a prerolled joint of Jack Herer, and one of White Rhino (and though they are obviously different in their growing patterns, which is with "overall plant vitality" the only difference that I still care about), I know that I just can't make the difference, in taste or in effect. I've tried (they were harvested and cured just the same, by me).

So, when you've cleared this "thousands of genetics", like if any of these strains wasn't 99.9% the same as hundreds of others, how many really different strains do exist, and not just a commercial name for a cross between the same old ponies ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?

What do you think of what I'm thinking ? sorry for not being consensual, but I think that I'd better say things the way I see it, and if I'm wrong.. fine.

 

[Tunefull]

Hi m8

I kinda agree with you(lol tho is hard to see what your saying)

For me my knowledge of growing/smoking diff strains stands at a measly 5 strains
I can tell each of these apart,and i know which is which.

What they "Should" taste like i have no idea,All i know is what mine tastes/smells like...

One strain i have is Cali O
Lovely smoke/aroma
I aint smelling oranges tho(maybe that was naive of me?)

Mmm but yea my home grown i can tell the diff(With the strians i picked)

So u should be able to tell the diff between White rhino and Jack herer.Unless there closely linked geneticly?(Is that your point?)
I dont know much about which strains were around first,and which strains derived from what...



I have read(a few times)Diff threads about where some strains came from,And what newer strains are made up off(Its all a bit confusing but each time u check the list somit sticks)*SmielS*


Anyway i stopped making sense after i said"Hi m8"
So will end now
*smileS*

 

[Guest]

I agree with you.

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

If you give me a prerolled joint of Jack Herer, and one of White Rhino (and though they are obviously different in their growing patterns, which is with "overall plant vitality" the only difference that I still care about), I know that I just can't make the difference, in taste or in effect. I've tried (they were harvested and cured just the same, by me).

while many varities of cannabis aren't bred with taste/smell as the main goal... personally, i think you would have to be devoid of a sense of smell and taste to not be able to pick out a haze or a diesel next to a hashy smelling afghan type bud...

but hey, that's just me...





yup, they were all quite unique and i could have easily told them apart in a blind test...

 

[motaco]

if you grew white rhino and jack herer and couldn't tell the difference either one or both of your strains were mislabeled or you have the weirdest body chemistry known to man.


what your saying is true if your growing mainly dutch genes. your right there really isn't much difference between g13, hashplant, black domina, a good afghani, etc. a lil bit different taste pretty much the same stone.


but if your not growing the same old shit I'd have to completely disagree. pretty much every strain I smoke that I expect to be unique is. haw sat, diesel, tw, oaxaca, haze, deep chunk, sensi star. I could pick any of them out of a lineup. blind folded clean bong rips.

but if your asking me to identify top 44 from big bud, or a knockoff Nl your right I probably couldn't do it.

IMHO a few things that might cause you to not be able to experience strains correctly.


If you are growing mostly knock offs or nirvana genes, or growing genes with mostly the same backgrounds (parents from the same latitude as most of the others your growing)

If you get high off a bit of this and a bit of that during a session. two hits of JH, two hits of afghani, two hits of bubblegum, etc. Smoke 1 strain per session. (several hours). Its like when my friends come back from a'dam with a two page list off all the strains they smoked, but can't tell you about any of them. its not that there was no difference its that you can't tell strains apart when your smoking 15 a day.

If you drink while you toke, or are worn out before you start toking.

If you just sit in front of a tv or monitor many strains like JH will not properly manifest themselves.

smoking out of dirty pipes will go A LONG WAY to killing taste. I salt and shake my pieces about every 3 bowls. if you clean them before they get dirty its nothing more than a rinse really. doesn't take any time at all and I keep clean pipes.


Just my .02

I don't know if any of that applies to you or not.

 

[Guest]

maybe you grew out shit phenos. Some people say the dutch genes all have the same thing goin on...

if you had a bland WR pheno or jack herer Jeck herer is basicly C99 sativa ish

imo c99 is a little over rated too its not the strongest sativa buzz around there dutch genes but my god man


My grapefruit C99 pheno or the canalope pheno Vs Golden Skush (Hindu Kush x Skunk#1)

shit dude the kush was the strongest smelling shit ever, i had my prother smell it not knowing what it was and me almost puked.

that was just what was on my finger... there were major differences in the high too
the kush was narcotic i could slee on rock and think it was a syrta everything was good and comfy

the C99 was more up energetic, comparable to some mexican bagseed mellow energetic happy, but not racy in any way atleast compared to a landrace called ghanian accra skunk which has a spicy smell and taste imo, the smoke is kinda bitter the the point it feels kinda numb, or tastes numb or soemthing its like water down lemon pinesol astringent it thumps the back of your head and rever tunnels your vision

you can hardly see infront of you but everything is clear in your perfiferal vision, you think you see things or hear things. it was the best high ive had and was a far cry from some dutch Golden Skush a recycled classic
hindu kush and who guessed it... Skunk#1...........

get some authentic genes instead of the recycled dutch ones, after all the hybrids are to bring the best of both types in to one, why not spend the time finding one of the types that fits the bill instead of taking the easy way out with a hybrid

there are differences man.. take a 6 moth break
smoke some JH and white rhino again

 

[Guest]

if i were to blindly smoke any strain i have grown out (assuming its the same pheno), im positive i could identify which strain i smoked. i quit smoking cigarettes a few years back so that i could taste my pot better. taste is my favorite aspect of pot, i like it more than the strentgh of the buzz even. i think i over-analyze enough to be able to tell the difference.

 

[Greens]

if i were to blindly smoke any strain i have grown out (assuming its the same pheno), im positive i could identify which strain i smoked.

Yes, same goes for me except I vape my herbs. I mean, I could tell Guerilla Gold from Lemon Swiss from Freezeland absolutely NO problem at all. I don't know gnosis, either your taste buds are fucked or your strains are just very similar. Same goes with the effect, I would know which one I was toking withing 10 minutes, but I'd already know from the taste/smell. I mean my lemon swiss tastes/smells like sour skunky lemons and the freezeland like acidic pine trees (both very pungent). It's so easy to tell them apart...

Greens

 

[motaco]

also how many strains have you smoked?

most of the people I talk to that think that have only smoked a couple of strains. and alot of times it was just what someone told them it was. (I still know people that think weed is 1 strain, just varies by quality by how it was grown)

 

[Guest]

Well if you roll up any of the Bogglegum, Ak48, NL x BigBud, Sour D, or Chromulan, all the buds I have now. Not only can I tell you which 1 is which I can do it while smoking it in a flavored philly stogie.

Grow organic and then tell me you can't taste the difference. Just my

 

[mtnjohn]

i have 4 strains in my closet and i can tell the diff blind ...they are all quite different

i know i could pick them all apart from one another in any kind of blind test
weather that test was smell , taste or high

and i can also tell good bourbon from rotgut any day of the week

 

[Guest]

i agree with stoned silly, organic is the way if you want taste. also, what i said only applies to my organic method. i dont know how i would hold up with that test if the buds were hydro.

 

[fatboyOGOF]

i think reefer is analogus to dogs. if you allow them to breed without any human interaction, given the same conditions, the dogs all become medium sized, medium muzzel length, brown to yellowish in color. i think reefer would, after a few generations all taste and look the same.

i can tell the different highs from my many genetics. some are similar but most are unique.

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

i have to say though, often times people's discriptions of the differences in effect are blown out of proportion...

i mean don't get me wrong, i've smoked everything from a pure thai which actually gave me tremors... hands shaking and unable to sleep. and i've smoked stuff that glued me to the couch and put me to sleep.

however i believe that often times people incorporate too much of their own subjective experience into it when certain highs are (over)analyzed.

taste however is a different story. and when grown with well, most strains do have a quite unique and discernable taste to them.

 

[.♠.]

i dont know how i would hold up with that test if the buds were hydro

You can grow organic hydro also. Do it myself, and they come out tasting just like my buddy's who grows organic soil.

So I agree with everyone saying you can tell a differance. In fact I will set up a test for a couple people I know later today and will report back.

Peace

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

On taste alone I couldn't really tell if i actually burned weed to smoke. For some reason my taste buds just register smoke, no other flavors. Vaporizing is a different story though - I taste it all. Vaping I have no doubt I could tell my pineapple from grape from hashy tasting strains.

Effects on my noggin is another story.

 

[Guest]

exhale thru your nose just burn the weed in a room

being high has alot to do with it

i can taste the weed untill the buzz starts coming on, after that i cant smell or taste anything around me (besides food of course, i just get conjested) but i can smoke in my truck and come back an hour later and remember the c99 i just smoked

i think weed all tastes like weed but not entirely

i havent had any weed that tasted like anything pure for example iv enever had a citrus strain that smelled more like a lemon than marijuana but ive had varying degrees of a citrus smell some that are so citrus they smell like rotten meat (my kush) only kush ive had but the smell isnt that out of this world its just differnt

why do blind tests really? i mean its not like pot and tests always get along anyway


its like testing moonshine

eventually your going to become too fucked up to be subjective, so take it easy and just enjoy your herb people

 

[Haps]

I think a simple clean pipe, and simple frosty well flushed buds would be easy to taste for most folks, but we do perceive sensations differently, and this could fit that bucket. I can conceive of cutting my stash down from two dozen strains to a bare minimum of a dozen, but I'd rather not. How many strains do you grow/ smoke in a year?
H

 

[gnosis]

It's a little late, but: thanks for the answers. After writting this thread i understood i went a little overboard and .. conveniently forgot it. For the record I grow mostly organic/soil, have tried 3 strains and two others in seedling stage, and I'll try some new ones occasionally. Also, as I wasn't clear, I feel the less diferences in the drug's effect, it's true that for what I've grown the look, the smell and the potency differed. But the stoned feeling was about the same with all. OK, enough, thanks again.

 

[Guest]

Interesting thread... IF you can't tell the differences... 15 dollar seeds is all you need.