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how many lights can i safely use
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wooo thats alot of growing..
if its a house id sugest a flipflop w/10 ballists
how big a house? one of the McMarijuana Mansions were hereing about? maybe u could go w/15 or 20 like u wanted. warehouse? go more 30..
thats about 200 amps ur talking about. thats a gang of power.
i hope for your sake ur not planing on stealing juice.thats bad karma, if u do, id sugest having a seperate run for the lights and have the house draw 'normal' power.. u know TV microwave a bit of a/c
if your house is all electric 9no gas stove) its easier to get away with more juice.
if its a house id sugest a flipflop w/10 ballists
how big a house? one of the McMarijuana Mansions were hereing about? maybe u could go w/15 or 20 like u wanted. warehouse? go more 30..
thats about 200 amps ur talking about. thats a gang of power.
i hope for your sake ur not planing on stealing juice.thats bad karma, if u do, id sugest having a seperate run for the lights and have the house draw 'normal' power.. u know TV microwave a bit of a/c
if your house is all electric 9no gas stove) its easier to get away with more juice.
G
Guest
ahhh 20,000w grows are difficult...GL
its a LONG read, and a lot of valuable information is no longer there 
but you can get an idea (or 37 of them)
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=52399
but you can get an idea (or 37 of them)
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=52399
im not dishn ya or anything but whats your growing experince if you have several years of sucessful growing experince your questions would be answered by your experince. 20k is alot of lighting and yield potentional and to be sucessful would take dedication for what 500-700 plants easy. i have 30 under a 1k hps that require alot of dedication so times my 30 plants under 1 light by your 20 lights =600 plants approx. lotsa work way to much for this oleman lmaoondalow said:
one of the McMarijuana Mansions were hereing about G1 DH
G
Guest
If you ever get to the electrical part,wire your fixtures for 240V.You cant do 20 1K fixtures with a 200A service at 120V,but you can at 240V.
BUDDY BOY
Active member
Got a set of nut?? Then LET EM HANG!!!!!!! Good luck and make sure that that electrical is sound. One crop like that, you tight.
I would love to have a 20 light setup. I wouls run all that shit in soil with organic nutes 2 gallon pots, hand water, and you right that would equal about 600 plants. at 1-2 zipps apiece at market rate............... DAMN THATS SOME $$$$$$
I would love to have a 20 light setup. I wouls run all that shit in soil with organic nutes 2 gallon pots, hand water, and you right that would equal about 600 plants. at 1-2 zipps apiece at market rate............... DAMN THATS SOME $$$$$$
Worm Eat Worm
Member
hardest part wouldnt be the growing but would be getting rid of that kind of weight without getting busted gl
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DB2004
The American said:
Actually, you can can run 20 1K ballasts wired for 120V. The 200A service is a total of 48 KVA. 20 ballasts is still 20 KVA. 10 120V ballasts on each 120V line.
Best Regards
DB
G
Guest
You may feel safe putting nearly 100A on a leg DB,I would not and wouldn't consider it.80% pertains to feeders as well as branch circuits when continuous loads are concerned,I'd go 80A a leg at the very max.
BUDDY BOY
Active member
Electrical talk always gets me worked up. Amps, volts, load, surge, circuits, etc. Overwhelming if you dont know about it.
I simply compute it like this. 100 amps on each line. a line contains two sides and the ground, with the ground not carrying any juice. So that 200 amps max that you can tap, safely. But you would only want to use 80% of the juice to insure safety. So lemme see, 200amp x 80% = 160 amps. A 1000 watt ballast is about 9 amps on your system. So 160 divided by 9amps = about 17 ballasts. You still have to account for all the other equipment too.
That is just the way I use my math to try and stay within the means of the line from the pole. I could be wrong but that is the way I do it. Although I don't come no where near close to those numbers
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Please correct me if Im wrong.
I simply compute it like this. 100 amps on each line. a line contains two sides and the ground, with the ground not carrying any juice. So that 200 amps max that you can tap, safely. But you would only want to use 80% of the juice to insure safety. So lemme see, 200amp x 80% = 160 amps. A 1000 watt ballast is about 9 amps on your system. So 160 divided by 9amps = about 17 ballasts. You still have to account for all the other equipment too.
That is just the way I use my math to try and stay within the means of the line from the pole. I could be wrong but that is the way I do it. Although I don't come no where near close to those numbers
.Please correct me if Im wrong.
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Levitikuz
Member
600 females...1.5 ounces avg. per plant of some real dank...thats around $350,000 street value...ya you harvest one of those crops dont worrys about getting rid of that kind of weight fast...
Just sit on that kind of weight for like 5 yrs and makes 70,000 a yr....
If you can pull that off dont you think its worth it?
If yo moved it that slow i dont even think you would have to worry that much but that would be after you harvested...
BUT DAMN!!! do you even understand the trimming that it would require once you harvested?
i couldnt even imagine....
well if you end up doing it GL!
and i would LOVE to see pictures
Just sit on that kind of weight for like 5 yrs and makes 70,000 a yr....
If you can pull that off dont you think its worth it?
If yo moved it that slow i dont even think you would have to worry that much but that would be after you harvested...
BUT DAMN!!! do you even understand the trimming that it would require once you harvested?
i couldnt even imagine....
well if you end up doing it GL!
and i would LOVE to see pictures
Y
yamaha_1fan
Your 350,000 values is a little off. Growers growing like that, are not selling dime bags, they are moving it by the pound. 600 x1.5 is about 56 pounds. if you know the right people, that could be gone in one deal.
Levitikuz
Member
Ok but street value is still $350,000.....lol 56 pounds of stright kill is going very expensive...i wish i knew those kind of people....but i was just saying that you could sit on that much weight for 5 yrs and sell it by the 1/8 and basically pull arouung $70,000 a yr if you sold it that way....
But of course if you sell it all at once or half of it here then the other half there your not going to pull anywhere near $350,000 unless you sell it to straight idiots....
But of course if you sell it all at once or half of it here then the other half there your not going to pull anywhere near $350,000 unless you sell it to straight idiots....
robbiedublu
Member
Why would you want to do all that work and take all that risk for 70k/yr? I can make more than that with 2k watts in a spare bedroom.
Levitikuz
Member
I wasnt say do it, i was just saying that you set that operation up and harvest ONE time and you can come away with alot of money for along time...im not saying thats the way it should be done....but 1 way it could be done....
And i was trying to put it in perspective on how much it really is...i mean really if you stick to just around 15-30 people as ur customer base and sell 2 pounds a month and not expand and just stick to the people you really trust...i dont see why it would be such a bad idea...im not going to call myself out but i havent had a job in quite awhile if you catch my drift...
Set up that op and it takes you 5 months to complete...now you set for 5 yrs if you choose to be so....but i guess thats 1 route most people wouldnt take i guess...but look im not tryin to argue im just sayin,....
And i do agree with ya, it wouuld be alot smarter to flip it quick then slowly...but if ur flippin it in 1 or 2 transactions then you REALLY must trust who ur dealing with, because that is ALOT of money at once and people get very greedy very quickly
but if you keep it small and not let anyone know what you really have...you dont have to worry as much about people thinking of thoughts they normally wouldnt think of...
so just stay safe
And i was trying to put it in perspective on how much it really is...i mean really if you stick to just around 15-30 people as ur customer base and sell 2 pounds a month and not expand and just stick to the people you really trust...i dont see why it would be such a bad idea...im not going to call myself out but i havent had a job in quite awhile if you catch my drift...
Set up that op and it takes you 5 months to complete...now you set for 5 yrs if you choose to be so....but i guess thats 1 route most people wouldnt take i guess...but look im not tryin to argue im just sayin,....
And i do agree with ya, it wouuld be alot smarter to flip it quick then slowly...but if ur flippin it in 1 or 2 transactions then you REALLY must trust who ur dealing with, because that is ALOT of money at once and people get very greedy very quickly
but if you keep it small and not let anyone know what you really have...you dont have to worry as much about people thinking of thoughts they normally wouldnt think of...
so just stay safe
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^^ yeah i feel you, but its just a general rule that growers dont sale in small amounts..not that you have to follow by that but its just for your safety.
thats why people get out of slangin and grow, because there tired of the bullshit, even if it is 15-20 people...how many people do they know that smoke(or will be smokin ur stuff)..5.....10....5x15....10x20....before you know its its 50 people...then 100..then it just gets out of controll.
and any stoner that smokes knows good (or the same) shit doesnt stay around long....if theres some constant strain that everyone keeps seeing around, someone could put things together real quick, im not saying that they would know necessarily.
thats why people get out of slangin and grow, because there tired of the bullshit, even if it is 15-20 people...how many people do they know that smoke(or will be smokin ur stuff)..5.....10....5x15....10x20....before you know its its 50 people...then 100..then it just gets out of controll.
and any stoner that smokes knows good (or the same) shit doesnt stay around long....if theres some constant strain that everyone keeps seeing around, someone could put things together real quick, im not saying that they would know necessarily.
