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How long until my male starts busting? PICS

wdcf

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Right now this bad boy is surrounded by females. But I want to cut off his head and place him in a cup of water on my windowsill when the time is right. I rarely mess with males. So tell me someone with experience collecting pollen in this manner, is he ready? Thanks!
 

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n_d_ledz

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Once the sacs start turning down, the pin has been pulled on a cheap ass grenade....

I have had some open the same day they turned down, and up to 4 days later. All depends on the male.

IMO, earlier droppers are better for breeding for early finishers....
 

OregonBorn

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Its gonna be a while yet. Wait until they drop and hang down. Then you have about a day before they open. You can also wait until they just open and they will still not release pollen until it dries out (usually another day). The longer you wait the more pollen that you will get from more open flowers. You can also cut off the first few pendant pods and let the other pods mature more. Then cut the stem and put it in water in a small vase over a piece of paper with a folded crease. Then after the boys open and dump pollen, I move a girl that I want to pollinate to another area, and tap off the pollen from the crease in the paper above the female flowers that I want to cross. Pollen stays viable for only a few days at most unless it is dried and frozen.
 

St. Phatty

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From the point of view of Safety (protecting female plants) I'd be real nervous having even a Male in 'pre-Spew' state.

In that pic, that male plant looks like he's about 10 days away from the "French Streetlight" look where the pods are hanging, when the outer petals open, and millions of pollens go looking for a pistil.

If I want to make seeds, I usually have a fan blowing from the male towards the females.

But to see what's really going on, I have to turn off the fan and give the males a jostle to see if any mini-dust-bombs of pollen go wafting away.
 

wdcf

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From the point of view of Safety (protecting female plants) I'd be real nervous having even a Male in 'pre-Spew' state.

In that pic, that male plant looks like he's about 10 days away from the "French Streetlight" look where the pods are hanging, when the outer petals open, and millions of pollens go looking for a pistil.

If I want to make seeds, I usually have a fan blowing from the male towards the females.

But to see what's really going on, I have to turn off the fan and give the males a jostle to see if any mini-dust-bombs of pollen go wafting away.

No dust bombs in my flower room I hope. I'm planning to cut the main stalk from the roots and put it in a cup of water in my windowsill. I heard it will continue to Flower / give off pollen. However someone in another thread said if the light cycle isn't 12/12 it will revert back to veg, but I heard differently. Does anyone have any experience on that matter?
 

n_d_ledz

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No dust bombs in my flower room I hope. I'm planning to cut the main stalk from the roots and put it in a cup of water in my windowsill. I heard it will continue to Flower / give off pollen. However someone in another thread said if the light cycle isn't 12/12 it will revert back to veg, but I heard differently. Does anyone have any experience on that matter?

The method works fine. The hold up could be if it roots before dropping. But even then, those turned should drop pollen.


Keep in mind, there is enough genetic material in one of those pods to make hundreds of beans. Quality of collection and storage are more crutial then pollen yield.
 

OregonBorn

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No dust bombs in my flower room I hope. I'm planning to cut the main stalk from the roots and put it in a cup of water in my windowsill. I heard it will continue to Flower / give off pollen. However someone in another thread said if the light cycle isn't 12/12 it will revert back to veg, but I heard differently. Does anyone have any experience on that matter?

I dunno where this idea of light cycle reversion comes from, but I have blown smoke though it a hundred times over. I have grown many boys and girls over the years, and the FACT is that they will not revert to veg once they set flowers, regardless of light hours. I have started entire runs of multiple sativa and indica crosses indoors under lights in late winter. I move them from 24/0 day/night indoors to 13/11 outdoors/GH in early April and they immediately go into bloom. They continue to bloom and put on more flowers through June and the summer solstice! I typically harvest them in June when I remove ALL the flowers and leave as many fan leaves as possible. Only then will they will revert to veg. Usually in a week or two. I let them grow and veg out through the summer, and they typically start blooming again in September. this double harvest method seems to be a lost art though. I believe that the flowers put out an auxin that prevents re-vegging.
 

brown_thumb

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I dunno where this idea of light cycle reversion comes from, but I have blown smoke though it a hundred times over. I have grown many boys and girls over the years, and the FACT is that they will not revert to veg once they set flowers, regardless of light hours. I have started entire runs of multiple sativa and indica crosses indoors under lights in late winter. I move them from 24/0 day/night indoors to 13/11 outdoors/GH in early April and they immediately go into bloom. They continue to bloom and put on more flowers through June and the summer solstice! I typically harvest them in June when I remove ALL the flowers and leave as many fan leaves as possible. Only then will they will revert to veg. Usually in a week or two. I let them grow and veg out through the summer, and they typically start blooming again in September. this double harvest method seems to be a lost art though. I believe that the flowers put out an auxin that prevents re-vegging.

I don't know much but I know this to be (not necessarily true). I started some Tora Bora under 10/14 light and they went into very early flower. I changed the light hours to 16/8, nipped all the buds and stripped the stems when I transplanted. I left just a few leaves. They all went back into veg for three months until I moved them outside under 11/13 light at which time they began to flower again.
 
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