How do you go about giving your Auto Flower vegatative nutrients?

[Tony Soprano]

Your not supposed to give your plants any sort of nutrients for the first 2-3 weeks if you have a good soil mixture.

FFOF soil has enough nutrients in it to last the plant for about 2-3 weeks.

Auto Flowers start to flower at 2-3 weeks.

So do you just skip giving your plant the vegetative nutrients?

 

[Seedling]

Your not supposed to give your plants any sort of nutrients for the first 2-3 weeks if you have a good soil mixture.

FFOF soil has enough nutrients in it to last the plant for about 2-3 weeks.

Auto Flowers start to flower at 2-3 weeks.

So do you just skip giving your plant the vegetative nutrients?

Think your on to it mate. A good soil will satisfy an AF until sexed. Most people dont feed until after sexing and then starting with a low dose of flower nutes.

 

[Tony Soprano]

Think your on to it mate. A good soil will satisfy an AF until sexed. Most people dont feed until after sexing and then starting with a low dose of flower nutes.

Thanks, any other comments are welcome.

 

[Tiredofschwag]

One of the things about grow forums is that they build up a culture of old wives tales---rules, rules, rules. Do this, don't do that. Even when it makes no sense people keep repeating what they read. Nobody wants to experiment. The don't feed thing came about many years ago with regular weed. Basically the seed has enough nutrients stored up in it to last about three weeks. So you basically don't have to feed for three weeks. But what if you did? What if you didn't use up all the stored nutrients in the seedling and allowed it to keep a complete storehouse of nutrients throughout it's whole life cycle. Especially if the plant only had a 60 day life cycle, why would you drain it out for 1/3 of it's life. If you think your soil is going to feed it for the first three weeks when it takes a month or six weeks to develope a bacterial culture then you are dead wrong. Unless you culture your soil for six weeks before you plant your seed then your soil is sub par.

I have always fertilized my normal seeds from day one and I am fertilizing my Automatic Hindu Kush from day one. I use a dilute solution of chemical fertilizer and RO water and dribble it around the soil with a turkey baster so as to not disturb the soil and I leave drops on the emerging seedling if possible to be foliar fed. And if you look at the photos I am putting up on my Automatic Hindu Kush forums you will see that my plants are doing very very well.

I grow semi-organically. At the beginning I use 19-31-18 PH adjusted chemicals but I transplant into nicely cultured organic soil with blood meal, fruit bat guano, and kelp meal which derives 11-11-5 and I water and foliar feed with kelp extract. When you understand that the high middle number not only promotes flowers but also promotes roots and at the beginning of the cycle you really want to stimulate roots then what is the point of using veg fertilizer? In my mind by using my chemicals that are a bit to the flowering side of balanced my plants have the best chance of success. When it's time for the explosive autoflowering that I have been promised I do want it to be explosive. Having huge roots and a storehouse of phosphates when it wants to flower only makes sense to me. Since my plants are so tiny to start with I really think it's best to give them nitrates throughout most of the growth.

So my advise is to think about it and figure it out and don't be too eager to follow along with the crowd.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

One of the things about grow forums is that they build up a culture of old wives tales---rules, rules, rules. Do this, don't do that. Even when it makes no sense people keep repeating what they read. Nobody wants to experiment. The don't feed thing came about many years ago with regular weed. Basically the seed has enough nutrients stored up in it to last about three weeks. So you basically don't have to feed for three weeks. But what if you did? What if you didn't use up all the stored nutrients in the seedling and allowed it to keep a complete storehouse of nutrients throughout it's whole life cycle. Especially if the plant only had a 60 day life cycle, why would you drain it out for 1/3 of it's life. If you think your soil is going to feed it for the first three weeks when it takes a month or six weeks to develope a bacterial culture then you are dead wrong. Unless you culture your soil for six weeks before you plant your seed then your soil is sub par.

I have always fertilized my normal seeds from day one and I am fertilizing my Automatic Hindu Kush from day one. I use a dilute solution of chemical fertilizer and RO water and dribble it around the soil with a turkey baster so as to not disturb the soil and I leave drops on the emerging seedling if possible to be foliar fed. And if you look at the photos I am putting up on my Automatic Hindu Kush forums you will see that my plants are doing very very well.

I grow semi-organically. At the beginning I use 19-31-18 PH adjusted chemicals but I transplant into nicely cultured organic soil with blood meal, fruit bat guano, and kelp meal which derives 11-11-5 and I water and foliar feed with kelp extract. When you understand that the high middle number not only promotes flowers but also promotes roots and at the beginning of the cycle you really want to stimulate roots then what is the point of using veg fertilizer? In my mind by using my chemicals that are a bit to the flowering side of balanced my plants have the best chance of success. When it's time for the explosive autoflowering that I have been promised I do want it to be explosive. Having huge roots and a storehouse of phosphates when it wants to flower only makes sense to me. Since my plants are so tiny to start with I really think it's best to give them nitrates throughout most of the growth.

So my advise is to think about it and figure it out and don't be too eager to follow along with the crowd.

Excellent!


For the beginners to achieve the same results.... I recommend the Lucas Formula. Heh It works great in bloom and... wow... just dandy in veg too. Plenty of phosphates available when 12/12 starts.

Stay Safe!

p.s. I look forward to being able to play with organics one day. I'm still a noob learning the plant though, so I try to keep it as simple as possible.

 

[Bighill]

If you do a complete enough soil mix you don't need to add much chems at all. Let the plants teach you of their requirements. I run my autos on a organic soil mix with grow and bloom amendments mixed in, more bloom than grow since they spend more time flowering. Welcome harvest products are what i use in my dirt.

You have to think most autos are only around 70 to 100 days. Some strains require that much time just to veg. So you only need enough nutes for half the time, in my mind.

Too often we get cought up in this "one size fits all" mentality. Some times less is more, some times you give more and get less.

Bh.