how do ph/malawi, panama/haze, and haze/kali compare to ot haze?

[warcraft74]

for someone who's after the holy grail of the longest flowering pure haze, what's your opinion on the above three strains as a compromise for it in your opinion?

how do they compare as far as clear/clean/muddiness/heaviness?

are the pure haze effects of extreme mind expansion, euphoria and focus lost or muddied up by the crossing? obviously a bit, but how much in your opinion?

for someone who wasn't too happy with panama and alice's muddy/dumbing effects would i be happy with any of these or should i just shoot for ot haze? the only reason i don't is because of a temperate growing climate without enough time to completely finish flowering.

 

[ValleyKush]

How long did your panama go? You (generaly) kindof have to go 15+ weeks to find the purer highs and even then it will be hit or miss depending on the phenotype. Also a good 2 month cure seems to be a must.

I think with the haze crosses it depends on the pheno you have. I really wanted to try it pure but decided to go with panama haze just to work my way up as I imagine oth is harder to grow indoors so I wanted a "practice run". I've just started to chop recently so dont have much to comment about the high yet but mine seems pretty oth leaning. You can see my thread "panama haze" for more details.

I think it really depends on the pheno, with the crosses you might have less of a chance for a super pure haze high pheno but much more vigor, ease of growth, speed, yeild and bag appeal. The pure oth on the other hand is gona be a bit more of a handfull with a (mostlikely) higher chance of finding a "holy grail" type pheno. But overall I would say you have a really high chance of finding what you are looking for in ace's haze crosses vs looking through nevils haze or super silver ect.

Hope that helps.

 

[Dr.King]

for someone who's after the holy grail of the longest flowering pure haze, what's your opinion on the above three strains as a compromise for it in your opinion?

how do they compare as far as clear/clean/muddiness/heaviness?

are the pure haze effects of extreme mind expansion, euphoria and focus lost or muddied up by the crossing? obviously a bit, but how much in your opinion?

for someone who wasn't too happy with panama and alice's muddy/dumbing effects would i be happy with any of these or should i just shoot for ot haze? the only reason i don't is because of a temperate growing climate without enough time to completely finish flowering.

I have yet to grow a bunch of the ones I really want too. I have grown I'd say a good 10 or so of Aces Sativas because there are so many nice ones . At the moment I would say my holy grail is the OTH without question. Next I would say would be Zamaldelica as it only takes 11 or 12 weeks to finish. It's a potent high with much less muddiness then any of the others I have ran next to Malawi. The reason I said Aces Malawi is potent is just that, it's really intense. I pulled my Malawi at week 14 and it caused just me (none of my other family members as I am the only one with heart problems) to have bad chest tightness with heart palpitations. Next run of the Malawi I will let her go to week 17 or so.

Sorry I can't comment on the PHxM, P/H or the Haze/Kali but I do plan to run all of these outside next year. I have smoked all of their pure forms. How much that really helps I don't really know. I am guessing all three of those you listed will have more muddiness then the ones I recommended but that's just my opinion. Good luck man.

 

[OlDirtyHuman]

The purple haze malawi I'm smoking now isn't really psychedelic. The buds look very thin and like the shots of the pure OTH I've seen on here. It's very uplifting and clear headed. I might have left my card in the atm while smoking some recently, but I'm sticking with the clear headed buzz. I've got a different one flowering now that has some denser buds, see if the buzz is much different. Really enjoyable smoke for me, very happy high.

 

[Siever]

I smoked Purple Haze Thai & PUrple Haze Malawi.
I found both highs were uplifting and mentalyy stimulating.

 

[Dr.King]

I smoked Purple Haze Thai & PUrple Haze Malawi.
I found both highs were uplifting and mentalyy stimulating.

I just noticed that all of the Haze crosses are pollinated by the other part of that cross instead of pollinating with the hazes. I am guessing it keeps a lot more of the Haze traits when you pollinate the Haze parents instead. Not much into breeding at the moment but that's my guess. Makes sense why Dubi recommends these strains if you want a high potency Haze without a 20 week + flower time. Looking forward to growing these out even more now hearing all the nice reviews.

Hey Siever, may I ask which of the two where better in the trippy/psychedelic department? Thanks man, always enjoy your grows and reports.

 

[Siever]

What is your definition of trippy/psychedelic?
To me it's when your mind has thoughts it wouldn't have other times. If I remeber correctly, I liked the PH x M the best.