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How do I convince a cancer patient to take THC?

angelgoob

Member
1) Be funny about it. Give her cannabinoid oils in gummy dicks, saying "fuck cancer." Give her a card saying "hey fuck cancer, bot wanna know something? get high too" Coz she's going to get high off this.

2) Put out a real serious vibe and tell her my ma said she would use it for seizures, so you should use it for cancer. and the people who died didn't use enough maybe. It's like coffee or ginseng. Will brigthen your mood.

3) Tell her it's Vit D.

4) Bring in my friends high and we all get together and try and convince her.

Ok, now that I've exhausted all of my creative thought, and sorry about joking, bot seriously she thinks it's cool we get high, but doesn't wanna say.

She's been wasted and asked us to toke before. Her cancer was in remission.

She's got 3 sons. a cat and a dog. I could bring that up.

Finally, this is about the stigma attached. She don't wanna be illegal I don't think.
 

Avinash.miles

Caregiver Extraordinaire
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ICMag Donor
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you can't make decisions FOR people, they have to chose it for themselves

i always make sure a person is willing to TAKE it, that they have made up their mind 100% to use the medicine before i give it to them... nothing worse than when good meds go unused in hands of people who need them AND other people out there need it also

best advice i can give is to find a cancer patient who IS willing to take it and provide THEM with meds

or move the person to a legal / medical state so the stigma doesn't exist
 

al70

Well-known member
I tried to talk my da into it 2 years ago, too old fashioned and stubborn, he just would'nt listen, his cancer was advanced though, we buried him 14 weeks after diagnosis, we'll never know, but i regret not spiking his coffee, i wish ye both all the best, goodluck.
 

angelgoob

Member
Im gonna have to say I know someone that is stopping nodes from growing in their lungs, same as she has. Then I get the chart out.

With the 4 different ways cannabis defeats cancer.


and no. not the mariguanas nodes. cancerous nodes.
 
M

moose eater

Tell her it's a quarter the cost of the first 60 seconds she spends with her oncologist, and she'll feel ten times better than when she leaves the Doc's office. :)
 
M

moose eater

Came back to relate a very recent development in our circle here.

An older gent who has been sometimes like a father to me (he's mid-70s) was facing some health problems; some more serious than others, to include a rare form of blood cancer, and a tumor on a lung to boot. There were other serious issues, as well.

He's helped my family for going on 3 decades.

He began treating his cancer condition(s) himself (before they'd even narrowed down the form of blood cancer he was contending with). He used an apricot pit extract/concentrate remedy that the FDA had denied certification of for years, and had many U.S. citizens going to Mexico to engage in.

I'm told he went as far as over-doing the treatments to the point of nausea and dizziness at least once.

He just went back in for a blood draw for more tests, and some imaging re. the tumor, and they told him the tumor had vanished to being nearly unidentifiable, and his blood work was NORMAL!!!!!!

I know he takes other supplements, and I've been skeptical about many, especially since the reports of such things sometimes not having a trace in them of what they claim to possess, but he's (for now, anyway) more or less healthy.

Can't say how common this is, or whether or not someone else might benefit from this, or even of there's a verifiable cause-and-effect relationship in his apricot extract tx, but I figured the story was worth sharing.
 

angelgoob

Member
Her son said she can't think right.

So she can't even decide or take a pill I think.

Oh well we ate all the caps and got a REALLY good buzz going.
 

Mrs.Babba

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Most of our cancer patients that come in our shop use a 3 gram syringe of high CBD RSO oil and take a grain of rice of it everyday....does she live in a medical mmj state?
 

Gry

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Tell them it is far worse than chemo and it is much more expensive.
 

MJPassion

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As mentioned before, you dont try to convince them to take cannabis.
You educate them about what canabis can do. And not by simple word of mouth either. You have to go out and do the research then come back with legit evidence of why you think your friend needs to use cannabis. Then discuss it with them until they feel comfort in knowing nothing will go wrong.

And even then... You must take & accept NO for the answer.
 

blastfrompast

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Well the person I am growing for now gave away some of his edibles to a friends father in pallative care essentially.. Cancer...terminal....

The old guy cut his morphine drip down by half and my buddy had to explain what was in the treat to three seperate Dr's as they were shocked (100mg decarbed oil)....got 3-4 more quality weeks with his family, he can't eat the treats anymore as the throat cancer has made eating impossible(i suggested feed tube).

Normally I provide 50mg decarbed oil treats to women going thru chemo for the most part, seems to keep the nausea under control and help with the mood and such.. Last lady pulled thru great and ate in the range of 120-150 treats over the course of her treatment (2-3 per day)...
 

blastfrompast

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100g of decarbed oil on the other hand didn't help a lil 7yr old boy I donated too...he got more time...but the braincancer still took him.
 

trichrider

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Cancer – breast

Anandamide inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation
https://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/95/14/8375

Inhibition of Human Breast and Prostate Cancer Cell Proliferation1
https://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/co...tract/141/1/118

Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids
https://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/c...ract/318/3/1375

9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Cell Cycle Progression in Human Breast Cancer
https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/c...ract/66/13/6615

Cannabidiol inhibits tumour growth in leukaemia and breast cancer
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=220#2

THC and prochlorperazine effective in reducing vomiting in women following breast surgery
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=219#1

Cancer- colorectal

Anandamide, induces cell death in colorectal carcinoma cells
https://gut.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/54/12/1741

Cannabinoids and cancer: potential for colorectal cancer therapy.
https://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16042581

Cancer- glioma/ brain

Anti-tumor effects of cannabidiol
https://www.hempworld.com/HempPharm/...milanstudy.html

Pot’s cancer healing properties
https://www.november.org/stayinfo/br...ncerKiller.html

Cannabinoids Inhibit the Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor Pathway in Gliomas
https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/c...hort/64/16/5617

Inhibition of Glioma Growth in Vivo
https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/c.../61/15/5784.pdf

Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=193

Cannabidiol triggers caspase activation and oxidative stress in human glioma cells.
https://www.ihop-net.org/UniPub/iHOP...l?pmid=16909207

Cannabinoid receptors in human astroglial tumors
https://www.brainlife.org/abstracts/...t_j20060800.pdf

Cannabis extract makes brain tumors shrink, halts growth of blood vessels
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12088.php

THC tested against brain tumour in pilot clinical study
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=222#1

Cancer- leukemia

Cannabis-induced cytotoxicity in leukemic cell lines
https://bloodjournal.hematologylibra...ract/105/3/1214

Cannabidiol-Induced Apoptosis in Human Leukemia Cells
https://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/c...stract/70/3/897

Marijuana's Active Ingredient Kills Leukemia Cells
https://www.treatingyourself.com/vbu...read.php?t=7107

Targeting CB2 cannabinoid receptors to treat malignant lymphoblastic disease
https://bloodjournal.hematologylibra...t/100/2/627.pdf

Cannabinoids induce incomplete maturation of cultured human leukemia cells
https://www.osti.gov/energycitations...osti_id=5164483

{Delta}9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-Induced Apoptosis in Jurkat Leukemia T Cells
https://mcr.aacrjournals.org/cgi/con...bstract/4/8/549

Cannabidiol inhibits tumour growth in leukaemia and breast cancer
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=220#2

Cancer- lung

Antineoplastic activity of cannabinoids
https://www.ukcia.org/research/Antin...ds/default.html

Delta(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits epithelial growth factor-induced lung cancer cell migration
https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medl...astasis_in_vivo

Smoking Cannabis Does Not Cause Cancer Of Lung or Upper Airways
https://ccrmg.org/journal/05aut/nocancer.html

No association between lung cancer and cannabis smoking in large study
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=219#2

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
https://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematol...gCancer/tb/3393

CLAIM #4: MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cannab...bis_myth4.shtml

Cancer- melanoma

Dronabinol for supportive therapy in patients with malignant melanoma and liver metastases.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=180

Intractable nausea and vomiting due to gastrointestinal mucosal metastases
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=35

Cancer – oral

Smoking of cannabis does not increase risk for oral cancer
https://www.cannabis-med.org/english...el.php?id=175#1

Marijuana use and Risk of Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma
https://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei...&icp=1&.intl=us

Cancer-pancreatic

Cannabinoids Induce Apoptosis of Pancreatic Tumor Cells
https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/c...ract/66/13/6748

Cancer – prostrate

Inhibition of Human Breast and Prostate Cancer Cell Proliferation
https://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/co...tract/141/1/118

Cannabinoid Receptor as a Novel Target for the Treatment of Prostate Cancer
https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/c...t/65/5/1635.pdf

Cancer – Risk

Cannabis vs Tobacco

Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk
https://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891

Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic
https://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ar...i?artid=1277837

Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
https://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1065/a03.html

Blunt Smokers Link Dependence Potential To Nicotine
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52838.php

Premiere British Medical Journal Pronounces Marijuana Safer Than Alcohol, Tobacco
https://cannabislink.ca/medical/safer.html

Why Doesn't Smoking Marijuana Cause Cancer?
https://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/14275.html

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
https://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematol...gCancer/tb/3393

Cancer - Skin

Inhibition of skin tumor growth
https://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full...y=MpUgjDbqHybAU

Cannabis Reduces Skin Cancer
https://www.onlinepot.org/medical/skincancerreport.htm

Cancer – Testicular

The antiemetic efficacy of nabilone
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=127

Chemotherapy for Testicular Cancer
https://www.rxmarihuana.com/shared_c...icularchemo.htm

Cancer –various/ unnamed

Derivatives of cannabis for anti-cancer treatment
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...uo-do060605.php

Cancer Killer
https://www.november.org/stayinfo/br...ncerKiller.html

Anandamide Induces Apoptosis
https://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/275/41/31938

Nabilone improves pain and symptom management
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=177

The effects of smoked cannabis in painful peripheral neuropathy
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=96

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol for appetite stimulation
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=52

Dronabinol and prochlorperazine in combination
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=28

Dronabinol enhancement of appetite in cancer patients.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=149

Efficacy of tetrahydrocannabinol
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=31

Inhalation marijuana as an antiemetic for cancer chemotherapy.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=155

Nabilone versus domperidone
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=129

Inhalation marijuana as an antiemetic for cancer chemotherapy.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=155

Nabilone vs. placebo in chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=156

The antiemetic activity of tetrahydrocanabinol versus metoclopramide
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=24

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol as an antiemetic for patients receiving cancer chemotherapy
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...show.php?s_id=5

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol as an antiemetic in cancer patients receiving high-dose methotrexate
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=23

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) as an antiemetic in patients treated with cancer chemotherapy
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=27

Amelioration of cancer chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting by delta-9-THC
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=107

Superiority of nabilone over prochlorperazine as an antiemetic
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...ow.php?s_id=126

Analgesic effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=16

The analgesic properties of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and codeine.
https://www.cannabis-med.org/studies...how.php?s_id=17

Comparison of orally administered cannabis extract and delta-9-THC
https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medl...xia_Study_Group

Cannabis May Help Combat Cancer-causing Herpes Viruses
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...40923092627.htm

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
https://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematol...gCancer/tb/3393

i didn't know what cancer so i posted what i had reviewed. information essential to reducing the bias fear maintains in it's acceptance. hope this helps everyone exposed to the awful disease and their families.
good luck
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angelgoob

Member
I wish this was a mmj state.

Then the stigma would be removed.

Who the fuck cares if you get high? Woop DEE do!

Oh no.

People joke about their vicoden high, or how fucked up they got on alcohol, but mention that a patient is medicating AND likes the high too and that's not right! Not to them!

Things are so deadly. Look at our water!

Let that shit 72 hours for your plants and your sake.

I'm waiting on my next patient.

Atleast now I have experience. And I know my oven temps.

I been calling people in government. I am high when I do this. Going live on facebook...Really fun. I really make them think. I am going to make them think today.
 

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