How do cops weigh your plants?

[smurfin'herb]

I have looked everywhere and i can figure out where to go next on this one guys. Im trying to find out how the cops have to formally go about weighing the cannabis plants when they bust people..

Like, do they trim the buds off and wait for it to dry, or do they just weigh the whole plant wet on the spot or what?

5,000 to 20,000 grams will get you a 3rd or 4th degree felony in my state.
Hell ive had single outdoor plants that weighed hell of a lot more than 20,000 grams (bout 40lbs) including branches, stalk, and leaf ,.... especially when wet. Kinda scary...

Can anyone help me here?

 

[FreezerBoy]

It may change from state to state but, I don't know that they weigh anything, it's a "blue book" value. A 1 inch clone "weighs" as much as a 20 foot plant in full bloom.

 

[Tony Aroma]

Like, do they trim the buds off and wait for it to dry, or do they just weigh the whole plant wet on the spot or what?

I don't know anything about this, but I tend to doubt that they would do a trim and manicure followed by drying and curing. If they bother weighing at all, as opposed to a fixed weight assigned per plant, I've heard they use the entire live plant, rootball, dirt, and all.

 

[centralcoastbud]

Throughout the last few years of smoking and being around smokers and exchanging stories about police encounters I can safely say that cops don't know how to weigh anything. Not that I would expect them to be able to accurately complete a task such as weighing plant material -- they are far too unintelligent for that. I actually just had a good friend get caught with an 1/8th of weed in a small container... the officers listed the amount of marijuana around ~20 grams because they included the container. As far as measuring plants in flower, I was under the impression the laws were set up based on plant numbers + dried stash (here in california atleast). Of course this leaves a tremendous amount of legal gray area, as if there wasn't already enough surrounding cannabis laws.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

excellent question smurfin, in my ****ry (cannada) they value every plant at $1000 whether 3 inch clone or 8 foot monster. fucked i know. u could easily have 30 plants under a couple floros in an ikea cab and the value that @ 30g's you could also have 30 8 footers in krusty buckets that could yield you multiple pounds per plant they also value @ 30 g's fucked i know. got me to thinkin. if i had a woodchiper inside my barn and seen them coming from the road way via one of my many cams.....how would they weight a pile of shredded muddle that included roots, dirt, plastic, bud shred ect? not to mention the decomposition factor. being that they didnt find any live plants they would have to test multiple samples of said muddle to prove there was thc content other wise they just busted in on a composting project underway......

 

[3dDream]

billy - it's all evidence once you see them coming. They will prob. weigh the whole compost pile.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

They will weigh as much as they possibly can. They will weigh the water in your hydro system. they will weigh the roots, and soil

 

[dkmonk]

They bust you, and if you grew in your house weigh your whole house and say he had 10 plants that could produce 10,000 lbs of marijuana.j

Well i just made that up but that is what it seems like.

 

[smurfin'herb]

It may change from state to state but, I don't know that they weigh anything, it's a "blue book" value. A 1 inch clone "weighs" as much as a 20 foot plant in full bloom.

Where do i find what the blue book value is in my state? I go to the normal website and see laws and stuff, but this is a lil more technical.

 

[LiLWaynE]

i have no idea about how cops weigh plants, and I hope I never have to go and do a search and create a post on how cops weigh plants...

honestly, my first thought would be to find a lawyer and gather information/court cases on people who have previously been busted... i would read these myself, and then hand deliver all of the information to my attorney.

i would then educate my attorney as much as possible about the differences between usable and unusable marijuana. The main thing would be teaching the attorney about delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, and how it is the major active cannabinoid (chemical compound) within the plant, and that THAT is what people seek to obtain - for medical reasons of course. I would also be sure to explain to him that this compound typically forms heavily within mature buds that have undergone more then 2 weeks of 12/12 lighting.

I would also be sure to take my microscope and show him first hand what a tricome is. I would show him a fan leaf, a root ball, and a stalk as well to show him that those parts do not have any useful trichomes. Hopefully I could light such a fire under the attorneys ass that he will do everything in his will to spread that information to the judge/prosecutor/jury.

you would think that if the case was extreme enough, with a good lawyer, and perhaps an understand prosector/judge/jury, you can walk away without spending much time/any time in the slammer... assuming that state laws aren't super "archaic."

all in all though, what i said could be a bunch of shit... its just how i have always thought... i really dont plan on ever getting caught...


i'd rather take preventive measures to avoid getting caught, rather then learning how cops weigh the plants after they seize them.


ive had this quote in my sig for years: if you fail to plan, plan to fail... ok ok....so im thinking to myself now... if by chance you DO fail, then, i guess you have to plan how to get yourself unfailed...

which brings me back to my original thought - should I plan to not fail? or should I plan on failing?

maybe i should plan on both.

wow im stoned.

LW

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

all in all though, what i said could be a bunch of shit... its just how i have always thought... i really dont plan on ever getting caught...


i'd rather take preventive measures to avoid getting caught, rather then learning how cops weigh the plants after they seize them.


ive had this quote in my sig for years: if you fail to plan, plan to fail... ok ok....so im thinking to myself now... if by chance you DO fail, then, i guess you have to plan how to get yourself unfailed...

which brings me back to my original thought - should I plan to not fail? or should I plan on failing?

maybe i should plan on both.

wow im stoned.

LW

If your doing things right and thinking ahead depending on your grow you should have a resonable amount put away somewhere out side your grow house just incase... i would say 2.5g per 1000 watts... of course thats my personal opinion... and also very depending on what your counting on what you need to have money for if you ever got caught... its sad in any event how ever....

 

[FreezerBoy]

Where do i find what the blue book value is in my state? I go to the normal website and see laws and stuff, but this is a lil more technical.

Wish I knew. But it was a big reason for my switch to DWC and ScrOG. 2-4 plants instead of 50-75 with E&F.

 

[happyherb]

after they finish there big box of do-nuts they all jump up on some big scales and hold the plants under there sweaty arm pits.. now and them pulling up there over sized slipping ( ya need room for growing the belly)pants over there fat asses...there big mouths weigh a lot too and is usually the cause that tips the scales and gets ya in the end...plus the fact there full of shit! ...im pretty sure thats the way it usually done!.HH. =]-~

 

[smurfin'herb]

i'd rather take preventive measures to avoid getting caught, rather then learning how cops weigh the plants after they seize them.


wow im stoned.

LW

Its nice to know these things before you plan on setting up an op, so that you can personally judge if the profits outweigh the penalties in your eyes.
If you choose to grow enough plants that will get you 4th degree felony, rather than doing more that would get you a 3rd degree felony, is a preventative meausure by making sure you only go to the slammer for a few yrs, vs. a decade.

Without knowing how cops weigh them, the numbers on the norml state laws dont mean jack.
Where is this information at? The cops have to have a written document that explains how they are sposed to do this..

 

[LiLWaynE]

Its nice to know these things before you plan on setting up an op, so that you can personally judge if the profits outweigh the penalties in your eyes.
If you choose to grow enough plants that will get you 4th degree felony, rather than doing more that would get you a 3rd degree felony, is a preventative meausure by making sure you only go to the slammer for a few yrs, vs. a decade.

Without knowing how cops weigh them, the numbers on the norml state laws dont mean jack.
Where is this information at? The cops have to have a written document that explains how they are sposed to do this..

true - ... maybe you should look up some old cases in your state and see what others have gone through

 

[SemperAltus]

i dont know how it goes from cop to cop etc. but the dea see 1 plant = 1 pound. shit could be in a dixie cup, you could have 30 in dixie cups flowering and they would do their press confrence they would estimate the worth = 30 lbs.


pretty bullshit if you ask me. which is why i say FUCK THE DEA

 

[Dr. Smokepuma]

excellent question smurfin, in my ****ry (cannada) they value every plant at $1000 whether 3 inch clone or 8 foot monster. fucked i know. u could easily have 30 plants under a couple floros in an ikea cab and the value that @ 30g's you could also have 30 8 footers in krusty buckets that could yield you multiple pounds per plant they also value @ 30 g's fucked i know. got me to thinkin. if i had a woodchiper inside my barn and seen them coming from the road way via one of my many cams.....how would they weight a pile of shredded muddle that included roots, dirt, plastic, bud shred ect? not to mention the decomposition factor. being that they didnt find any live plants they would have to test multiple samples of said muddle to prove there was thc content other wise they just busted in on a composting project underway......

1000.

well in my state 1 plant is = to 14,000 no shit

i wonder how they got that figure.it was on tv.. the NTF and dea said each plant because they hydro is 14,000 usd

 

[Cerb]

An good acquaintance of mine is a police officer. He mentioned having to finish weighing a grow a few weeks back. I'll be sure to ask him how it's done the next time the topic comes up.

Keep your friends close...

 

[ogatec]

'round here they sentence you on weight, so they weigh EVERYTHING they can, & then let your attny sort out what is real in trial. heehe remember buds,stalks,stems,leaves,seeds,roots,soil,pots- its ALL weed to the cops..

 

[captain.koons]

They bust you, and if you grew in your house weigh your whole house and say he had 10 plants that could produce 10,000 lbs of marijuana.j

Well i just made that up but that is what it seems like.

you must live in a shack if your house only weighs 10 000 lbs!