how big should be the roots area ?

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

i dug a hole in my garden and i want to replace it with my soil-mix...but my problem is :
how big should be the roots area ?

i know that the plant has tap-root, but after primary root there are many others shallow roots...so my need is TRY TO CONTAIN ROOTS (in my replaced-soil-mix) AS MOST AS I CAN

would be OK a cylinder with 40 cm (16'')diameter and 50cm (20'') deep ??

if not...which measure u suggest ?

the plant will be not taller than 5 feet and will have a lifetime of 6 months

_tessarecting · May 2, 2016

16" deep and 8' radius

corky1968 · May 2, 2016

The last time I grew outdoors I:

1. Bought 2 two gallon plastic pails.

2. I went out and dug all the holes I would need and used the pails to test the size of the holes.

3. A week later I arrived with lots of good soil and filled a large plastic bin.

4. I scooped up enough soil to fill both pails and walked out into my little clearing and filled 2 holes at a time.

After a few waterings the soil will go down into the holes and you will need to add more.
I left an indentation in my holes about 2 inches lower than the surrounding soil to aid with
watering.

Note: More soil is better.

I wouldn't use less than 2 gallons outdoor per plant. 5 gallons would be better no doubt.

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

_tessarecting said:
16" deep and 8' radius

8 feet or 8 inches RADIUS ?

_tessarecting · May 2, 2016

Feet bro c:

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

corky1968 said:
The last time I grew outdoors I:

1. Bought 2 two gallon plastic pails.

2. I went out and dug all the holes I would need and used the pails to test the size of the holes.

3. A week later I arrived with lots of good soil and filled a large plastic bin.

4. I scooped up enough soil to fill both pails and walked out into my little clearing and filled 2 holes at a time.

After a few waterings the soil will go down into the holes and you will need to add more.
I left an indentation in my holes about 2 inches lower than the surrounding soil to aid with
watering.

Note: More soil is better.

I wouldn't use less than 2 gallons outdoor per plant. 5 gallons would be better no doubt.

thx to make think that soil mix can go down...actually i did not think about it.....so ur note to add more soil is helpful

i planned to use 60-80 kilos (130-175 Lbs) for the only plant just to contain all roots i can

which measures u suggest me ?

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

_tessarecting said:
Feet bro c:

8 feet ?? woow so big

i did not imagine i could do it

8 feet of RADIUS for 1 plant are u sure is not a bit too much ?

how come so big?

VonBudí · May 2, 2016

Vaporizzando192 said:
8 feet ?? woow so big

i did not imagine i could do it

8 feet of RADIUS for 1 plant are u sure is not a bit too much ?

how come so big?

1000 gallon smart pot = 111" base x 24" height

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGJBe9LhmDY

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

VonBudí said:
1000 gallon smart pot = 111" base x 24" height

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGJBe9LhmDY

it scares me...tooo big for what i am asking suggestions

i will not use any pot around the soil-mix...just earth of my garden around

still far from the point of the question

the dig should have just 1 (ONE) plant inside...no more

jbarsk8 · May 2, 2016

Vaporizzando192 said:
it scares me...tooo big for what i am asking suggestions

i will not use any pot around the soil-mix...just earth of my garden around

still far from the point of the question

the dig should have just 1 (ONE) plant inside...no more

That pot is for 1 plant. I understand you are not using a pot you are planting into the earth. What they are trying to tell you is that the bigger and more soil space you can give that 1 plant, the better.

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

jbarsk8 said:
That pot is for 1 plant. I understand you are not using a pot you are planting into the earth. What they are trying to tell you is that the bigger and more soil space you can give that 1 plant, the better.

ok but it is too big for me
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]i planned to use 60-80 kilos (130-175 Lbs) as written before...i can not use bigger than this[/FONT]

Robrites · May 2, 2016

All holes should be two feet deep. The wider the hole, the larger the plant can grow.
A four foot wide hole will grow a very nice plant- a few pounds maybe.
A six to eight foot wide hole can grow much, much more.

Vaporizzando192 · May 2, 2016

thx Robrites, u get the point

let's see if somene else suggest some alternative version

Lochinvar · May 3, 2016

if you're not hiding, go as wide as you can afford, as long as you have plenty of sun, space, water and grow season. ...a million different ways, the cookie can crumble. Good luck

plantingplants · May 3, 2016

robrites, is it that drastic? I just finished making some mounds but they are pretty tall. Should I flatten them out more to make them wider? Why do people even do mounds if you can just spread the soil out flat?

Robrites · May 3, 2016

plantingplants said:
robrites, is it that drastic? I just finished making some mounds but they are pretty tall. Should I flatten them out more to make them wider? Why do people even do mounds if you can just spread the soil out flat?

Yes it is. I never knew. None of us old barstards did. (back then) There is not much oxygen below 24 inches so anything deeper for weed is a waste. All things being equal, the wider the hole the bigger the plant.

Edit: Mounds are wide by nature and end up being smart pots- without the pot- so promote more root growth
which results in larger plants.

Stone House · May 3, 2016

Depends on how good/rich your native soil is and how well it drains.
When I lived on the central coast of Cali (Monterey county), the soil was so rich it only took a couple 1.5 cubic feet bags of quality soil in a 24" deep hole. Produced several pounds per plant.
If your native soil is not ideal, it may take alot of work to make it productive.
As mentioned in the posts above the more volume of quality soil you use generally results in a larger plant.

plantingplants · May 3, 2016

Thanks, I measured them and they're more like 24" x 6'. Perfect.

Vaporizzando192 · May 4, 2016

VonBudí said:
1000 gallon smart pot = 111" base x 24" height

View Image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGJBe9LhmDY

one question about these kind of bags

if i use this one (just an example)
Hydrofarm HGDB25, Dirt Pot Flexible Portable Planter

but i put it in a hole i dug in the garden, do you think roots can continue to develop out of the sack...making holes and going in the soil around the pot ???

or they just stay inside ?

:thank you:

tech1234 · May 7, 2016

Robrites said:
Yes it is. I never knew. None of us old barstards did. (back then) There is not much oxygen below 24 inches so anything deeper for weed is a waste. All things being equal, the wider the hole the bigger the plant.

Edit: Mounds are wide by nature and end up being smart pots- without the pot- so promote more root growth
which results in larger plants.

I thought that o2 depth was 18" not 24"... I'm having a hard time finding that paper right now though. I do know that soil moisture plays a big role. The drier the more o2.

If I find the link i'll post it

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