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Honey QWISO Forum (lets show them why qwiso is the best)

RoomRaider

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If I ran 70%alc mix, let most of the alcohol evaporate off untill im left with a watery mix without much alcohol. would that remaining mix contain much thc ?

Iv already done this and let the watery mixture dry, i was left with sticky crap that isnt as hard as the rest of the oil fromt he same plate. Do you think it contains mostly plant wax ? it melts... and bubbles...

How many of you have used 70% ISO? Would you use the same ratios as 91%, even tho there is less solvent and more water?

Does the potency come out the same, just with longer evap times, or can the extra water mess with things a little? I have a hotplate, and plan to use it till the water is evaporated off.
 

Gray Wolf

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How many of you have used 70% ISO? Would you use the same ratios as 91%, even tho there is less solvent and more water?

Does the potency come out the same, just with longer evap times, or can the extra water mess with things a little? I have a hotplate, and plan to use it till the water is evaporated off.

More water means more water solubles will be picked up in the same amount of soak time. Freezing the material and subzeroing the alcohol will reduce that somewhat.

Have you tried Safeway for 99%?
 

Piel

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GW: The QWISO is now evaped and it came out very dark and with a weird smell -not of ISO so I think it´s just that using wet material is the cause of that. I smoked a little in a bong, it bubbled when lit and hit nicely after about 10min. Great high but it tastes like crap so next time I´ll use dry material.
 

Gray Wolf

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GW: The QWISO is now evaped and it came out very dark and with a weird smell -not of ISO so I think it´s just that using wet material is the cause of that. I smoked a little in a bong, it bubbled when lit and hit nicely after about 10min. Great high but it tastes like crap so next time I´ll use dry material.

Although I particularly like BHO from fresh material, I don't find the taste of alcohol extracted oil from fresh material particularly tasty either.

The test panels had a similar reaction and one patient used the word soapy, which comes pretty close to my sense sensation too.

On the otherhand, alcohol extractions from cured material are usually rated more flavorful than BHO extractions from cured material.

Good job experimenting!
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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So im starting to think that making hash with rubbing alcohol has to be in some way bad for you. So im thinking about making my own 100% alcohol and then extracting the hash oil. A consumable alcohol would be much healthier then rubbing alcohol made for outside of body.

You do not want to used any type of rubbing alcohol because it has lanolin oil in it so your skin doesn't dry out. Make sure it is pure ISO.

it is supposed to take so long in the darn coffee filter. The first batch got scrapped b/c the time for draining wasnt taken into account. second run just shook it for 5 seconds then used a collander to get out most if not all of the veg matter and am just watching this little cup and half of 91% just drip drip drip....need to use a better filter to speed up this process....any suggestions??

the second batch has a sort of golden green color while the other was just straight green hornet green, it got tossed into a spare pyrex to see what dries from it but yeah this needs to be sped up lol

The coffee filter was my big bottleneck too so I ran part of a batch just through a metal kitchen strainer and it turned out fine, it had more solids in it so the final product was much easier to handle.

I now use one of the reusable coffee strainers pictured below. It sits in a funnel that sits in a quart jar and I just wash in another quart jar for 20 seconds and dump everything into the screen basket and then squeeze it out for another 20 seconds or so.

If you want the better filtration and want to stick with the paper filter then use the reusable filter and then run its jar of juice through a paper filter. I dislike the paper ones because they seem to soak up a lot of juice that is just wasted.

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Maj.Cottonmouth

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So here is pan of QWISO I made, it was double boiled until "dry".

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Here is a closeup and you can see small bubbles. From what I have gathered in this thread if their are still bubbles then not all of the iso is purged out. Is that correct? If it is not purged can I leave it out to air purge or do I have to bake it? I have left a batch on the double boiler for over an hour after I would have normally pulled it and there are still small bubbles, do I just need to go longer or is a double boiler not hot enough to fully purge?


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Rocky Mtn Squid

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Quick Wash Cold Boil

Quick Wash Cold Boil

I haven't made any oil for a very long time.

When I did dable in it, I use to freeze my bud and my 99% ISO for 24 hours.

Mixing the bud with freezer cold ISO for a minute, maybe 90 seconds, I would then filter out the used bud, then cold boil to perfection using a double boiler until done.

Top grade bud would always produce top grade honey oil.

Bogglegum Honey - the 2 vials on the outside - left & right - are made from Bogglegum bud, the vial in the middle was made from a blend of different bubble hash.

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Sour Slut Honey

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Green Crack Honey

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Peace & Puffs,

RMS

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Headbandf1

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So here is pan of QWISO I made, it was double boiled until "dry".

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Doesnt look dry to me, double boiler uses waterand the steam is rehydrating your product is my guess. Use a seedling heater pad or electircal heat under 100 degrees and should dry out like the corners of your dish, I think you could scrape the lower left corner for a sample of your work it looks ready.
 

Headbandf1

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I've been making quite a few batches and I find the type of coffee filter you use makes a huge difference in the outcome of your final product. Anyone else experience this?
 

jump117

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Here is a closeup and you can see small bubbles.

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Also seen a lot of particulate matter, this means that reusable filter is rude.
It is not good to leave plant fragments in a polar solvent for a long time, they spoil the quality of the extract.
To improve the quality, after reusable filter add filtering through paper filter.
I dislike the paper ones because they seem to soak up a lot of juice that is just wasted.
Resin remains on the filter in the form of the halo, I cut these resinous pieces of dried filter, wash the resin with ethanol and evaporated.
Even if you do it right after the primary extraction, the extract of the filters is always a dark color, although a fragile, like the main extract.

From what I have gathered in this thread if their are still bubbles then not all of the iso is purged out. Is that correct? If it is not purged can I leave it out to air purge or do I have to bake it? I have left a batch on the double boiler for over an hour after I would have normally pulled it and there are still small bubbles, do I just need to go longer or is a double boiler not hot enough to fully purge?
Evaporation of small amounts from thin layer helps to remove small and micro-bubbles.
Look at before (R) -after (L) picture.
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It should be noted that heated evaporation of a thin layer forcing oxidation and the color becomes darker.
 

Piel

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The "oil" I now have is too awful to smoke so I´m thinking of adding it to may next batch of GD. Should the oil be decarbed before adding it to the alchohol?
 

Gray Wolf

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The "oil" I now have is too awful to smoke so I´m thinking of adding it to may next batch of GD. Should the oil be decarbed before adding it to the alchohol?

I definitely would decarboxylate it if you are going to use it orally. If you set it in a 250F oil bath, you can tell when the decarb is complete, by watching the bubbles.

To HMK's point, it sort of depends on why it tastes bad. If it just the "soapy" taste of oil alcohol extracted from fresh material, you might consider using it as a oral tincture, by adding cinnamon candy flavoring oil until you like the taste.

You can also dilute it a little with another oil like almond oil, to keep it flowing through a dropper if just the cinnamon oil isn't enough to make it flow. Coconut oil works well, but not in cold climates becaue of its solidification temperature.

Loranne oils makes a good flavoring oil that is available at many candy shops or from Loranneoils.com.
 

Piel

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I think the bad taste comes from using fresh weed (bubble bagged first) is probably chlorophyll, terpenes etc. Green Daargon tastes pretty awful as it is but maybe it could get worse. Using flavoured oils is a thought.
 

Kushed_

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Green Crack, 20 second-gentle shake, from trim. Unbleached coffee filter. Long, warm purge
 

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