Homegrown Fantaseeds Lowryder, anyone?

[spookyteabag]

Hi everybody. I've just registered on IC, so I'd like to say thanks to everyone who's been posting on the autoflowering forum. I've been following it for a while and learning lots. Cheers!

So, here's my question... Anyone got any experience with Homegrown fantaseeds' Lowryder? Their website makes out it's just like JDs Lowryder - 10 week finish, superfast, blah, blah, all that kinda stuff, but I got 3 plants at the end of week 5 and no flowers. I emailed HGF and the guy says they'll flower in week 9. WTF? That's no good for me... no good at all.... would have grown a Haze if I had all that time to sit about waiting... well, Haze wouldn't fit into my pissy little PC case, but you know what I mean?

So, I've put them under 12/12 to see if that will force them to flower. What do you guys think? Will that just screw them up? Whatever happens, they get the chop in week 10 as I'm off traveling.

 

[S_a_H]

Welcome to Icmag and our AF group here lots of good people.

Sorry to hear you got screwed. Did they mention in the description when it should start to flower or seed to harvest time ? Seems as you read some of the posts here that this kind of crap is happening all over and once they got have your money I guess you are SOL.

It won't hurt them to be dropped into 12/12.


S_a_H

 

[raz1012]

Stick to whats known and reliable...

 

[S_a_H]

Stick to whats known and reliable...

Yes but that is hard to do with so many new ones coming out and so few that are out there and available.

My advice to anyone is do some forum searching here or other forums and if you do not see anything email the seedbank asking for clarification. If they do not answer they do not want you business and if they do answer and it doesn't produce as promised you can let others know.

S_a_H

 

[spookyteabag]

Welcome to Icmag and our AF group here lots of good people.

Sorry to hear you got screwed. Did they mention in the description when it should start to flower or seed to harvest time ? Seems as you read some of the posts here that this kind of crap is happening all over and once they got have your money I guess you are SOL.

It won't hurt them to be dropped into 12/12.


S_a_H

Here are a few quotes from the description on the website...

Plant these seeds and you are guaranteed to harvest 10 weeks later.

Homegrown Lowryder has the same autoflowering traits as the original Williams Wonder x Northern Light x Ruderalis.

A lot more quality then we expected for a plant that finishes within 10 weeks, it actually blew us away, you need to try it to believe this unrivaled speed champion.

It doesn't say when they flower, but wouldn't anybody assume from this that it's gonna be at around 3-4 weeks?

I've had a reply from the guy at the shop and he says he'll get back to me once they've sorted something out... don't know what that means, but at least he's listening.

Thanks for the advice re 12/12, S_a_H. I'll be smoking cabbage leaves anyway - maybe this way it'll be cabbage leaves with a few trichs on them...

 

[spookyteabag]

Stick to whats known and reliable...

...totally true Raz. Just that I don't have an address to send beans to and I was passing through Amsterdam, so that was what I could get. I always thought HGF were reliable - but after all the shit about Dutch Passion etc. bringing out shit AFs, maybe I should have been more careful.... On the bright side...sharing my experience might help others - I did some serious searching and I couldn't find any grow info out there about this strain.

 

[S_a_H]

Here are a few quotes from the description on the website...

Plant these seeds and you are guaranteed to harvest 10 weeks later.

Homegrown Lowryder has the same autoflowering traits as the original Williams Wonder x Northern Light x Ruderalis.

A lot more quality then we expected for a plant that finishes within 10 weeks, it actually blew us away, you need to try it to believe this unrivaled speed champion.

It doesn't say when they flower, but wouldn't anybody assume from this that it's gonna be at around 3-4 weeks?

I've had a reply from the guy at the shop and he says he'll get back to me once they've sorted something out... don't know what that means, but at least he's listening.

Thanks for the advice re 12/12, S_a_H. I'll be smoking cabbage leaves anyway - maybe this way it'll be cabbage leaves with a few trichs on them...

I would think by reading that they are going to AF.

Now as we all know it shit does happen maybe there was some kind of mix up.

Yes it is good they are at least listening to your issues.

Goodluck

 

[raz1012]

Breeding companies who have been involved with autos for a while aren't that hard to find. There are atleast 15+ reliable auto strains out right now that have been proven to be true autos. There is tons of feedback on peoples experiences with these strains all over the autoflowering forum. Gypsy's selection is pretty minimal with regards to autos but if you check the other banks they have plenty available.

 

[spookyteabag]

So...I decided to take off early on my travels and I chopped the bastards. Into week six and no sign of flowering. The Homegrown Fantaseeds guy hasn't responded to my last email .... The website is still advertising these seeds as '10 weeks from seed to harvest'. One thing I know for sure is that's BS. But I still have a couple of seeds left. I'll pop them when I get back and see just out of interest when they flower.

I'm still trying to figure out what good an autoflowering plant that kicks in at week nine would be to anyone. Maybe to grow large plants in a greenhouse in winter? Can anyone think of a situation when these traits would be beneficial?

 

[MtnKuSh]

total bs to say the least.. who the hell wants to wait 9 weeks just for it to start flowering then wait another 8-10 weeks to finish mite as well start standard none auto seeds..total bs

 

[elmanito]

There are other banks in the NL which sell Lowryder seeds for less than you have to pay at HGF.
Problem with the Lowryder strain in general is the sensitivity for molds.You have to keep the humidity less than 40% in the growroom/greenhouse.

Namaste

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

don't waste your money. if you want auto flowering, get lowlife, joint doctor, or short stuff.

 

[spookyteabag]

There are other banks in the NL which sell Lowryder seeds for less than you have to pay at HGF.
Problem with the Lowryder strain in general is the sensitivity for molds.You have to keep the humidity less than 40% in the growroom/greenhouse.

Namaste

Hi Elmanto - are there any in Amsterdam you know of which I could walk into and buy some LR seeds? I'll be passing through the Dam in a couple of weeks...

don't waste your money. if you want auto flowering, get lowlife, joint doctor, or short stuff.

Hi Smokey - yeah, I've had that advice already from Raz... very good advice, as my experience with HGF shows, but as I sort of explained above - I live in a country where there are no seedbanks at all and it is just far to risky to try having seeds sent out, so my options are limited to the occasional opportunity to buy seeds at a walk in shop (usually in Amsterdam) when I'm back in Europe. I have done some research and I'd love to get my hands on some JD's LR#2 or Diesel Ryder, LL's Auto Hindu Kush, or Mdanzig's Masterlow or Bluestreak. All of them look as if they'd be good for micro growing.

 

[elmanito]

spookyteabag

I dont know any reliable seedshop nearby the dam where you can get Lowryder seeds.Most of the time it is a rip off with bad old seeds highly prized.
Try to get Mighty Mite seeds or Guerilla Gold.Forget about the whole Lowryder thing.

Namaste

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

yeah, i forgot about mdanzig. his strains are good auto flowering strains too. i live in the U.S. and i have ordered seeds 4 times this year no problem as far as i know.

 

[spookyteabag]

Right, so... You'd think I'd have had enough after my previous experience, but I still got a few seeds left so I've popped another two - just to see what happens after six weeks. They're a week old now, so I'll report back in a few weeks with any surprises.

I'm still trying to figure out what use an autoflowerer with a nine week veg phase could be to anyone.... maybe fems would be okay but imagine discovering after all that time that the four-foot monster that you had been lovingly cultivating was male?

But let's see what happens. Got to experiment... that's what it's all about.

I'm still really pissed at Homegrown Fantaseeds, but.

 

[duts]

An autoflower that takes 9 weeks to start flowering seems pretty pointless to me... if you want to veg that long for a better yield you might as well get normal non-af seeds and spend $10 on a timer.

 

[spookyteabag]

An autoflower that takes 9 weeks to start flowering seems pretty pointless to me... if you want to veg that long for a better yield you might as well get normal non-af seeds and spend $10 on a timer.

That's exactly what I did, mate. As soon as I got back to my burrow I set up my cab with a timer and it's now full of lovely wee Hindu Kush plants just getting ready to flower. But I'm naturally curious and want to see what those other shitty things actually do.

Maybe we could nominate HGFseeds for one of those Ignoble prizes, eh? For dedicating all that time and effort to creating a completely fucking useless strain.

 

[Blue]

sadly there are more & more non auto flowering beans being sold as Auto flowering.... both of Dutch passions new Auto flowering have the very same problem and cost a lot of money to boot!

 

[spookyteabag]

I'm wondering if there is a pattern to the various genetics behind all the so-called 'ruderalis-crosses'. It seems to me from reading about, firstly, that crosses made with JDs original Lowryder tend to be good - fully autoflowering after two or three weeks and all that. Generally speaking, I think this is the case.

Thing is, if you read what JD says about making LR#1, it wasn't just any old ruderalis he used. Oh, no... it was some kind of weird venus-flytrap-triffid job called Mexican ruderalis he got from a breeder who had already been working on the autoflowering concept for years. This isn't the same as the usual ruderalis that we read about in the literature that grows around Russia, Central Asia, etc. I know what that stuff is like - I've seen loads of it and it has given me major pains trying to grow outdoors without having my stuff heavily seeded. I've also grown out a few crosses and wasn't impressed with the results. (Though I didn't go further than the first cross). This is leading to my second point.

The ruderalis I know pops around the middle of April and the first male flowers appear in the first week of June, with the females emerging around the middle till the end of the month - that's about nine weeks in veg. by the way. See what I'm getting at? Maybe some of the strains that are being flogged as autoflower, but don't (or take a looong time to) are made using this kind of ruderalis? HGF's for example?

The rudi around my place can also grow quite tall - up to 2.5 metres - not short like the stuff JD describes at all. But this would fit with descriptions of, for instance, Sensi's ruderalis-indica, which by most accounts, grows tall and takes a good few weeks to autoflower.

This is just me thinking out loud, but it could fit. What you you think, guys?