High price seeds over $20 each good genetics wrapped in golden paper mean

[kro-magnon]

fastbuds some of the worst ever aswell, autos are trash anyways in any form (absolutely nonsense, a photoperiod can do everything like an auto, but come out more resilient, stronger and tastier. Heck you can force flower outdoor plants too) but night owl/mephisto is decent stuff at least. Avoid autos by all means anyway

It depends of your conditions, guerilla growers in the north are very happy to have autos to be able to harvest in their short summer period. It can be useful for someone who don't have enough time to make a crop with photoperiods. They are not useful to you maybe but it doesn't mean they are useless to everybody. They allow some people to grow something when they couldn't grow photoperiods because they would get too big and be a risk because a lot of growers over the world are still growing illegally. Like it or not, autos have their place in today's growing world.
I've had a few autos freebees I've grown in my veg space and I've been surprised by the potency I got, it was some decent smoke, nothing extraordinary but it got me properly stone.

 

[Hoss_Beardman]

Only grew one strain that they offered, which isn't available, now. That was their BlueThai, which was 50%Blueberry, 25%thai, 25% skunk. It was a local favorite.

What didn't you like about it. I've grown it and had it around for some years. It yields heavy, smoke and high are good. Smells like sour grapes tho lol

Edit: @RobFromTX

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

It depends of your conditions, guerilla growers in the north are very happy to have autos to be able to harvest in their short summer period. It can be useful for someone who don't have enough time to make a crop with photoperiods. They are not useful to you maybe but it doesn't mean they are useless to everybody. They allow some people to grow something when they couldn't grow photoperiods because they would get too big and be a risk because a lot of growers over the world are still growing illegally. Like it or not, autos have their place in today's growing world.
I've had a few autos freebees I've grown in my veg space and I've been surprised by the potency I got, it was some decent smoke, nothing extraordinary but it got me properly stone.

I got some Auto Zamaldelica (and Ace R&D Beldia X Lebanese) from Mandala. This is what you need. North Atlantic Seed Co. stocks it too if you're in the states. The Zamal. is supposed to be quite potent. https://shop.mandalaseeds.com/products/auto-zamaldelica

 

[Boo]

I was gifted these beans from a member of another site about a year ago and I have fallen in love with this plant. it’s well worth growing at any price…truffle treats

 

[Red Freeze]

It depends of your conditions, guerilla growers in the north are very happy to have autos to be able to harvest in their short summer period. It can be useful for someone who don't have enough time to make a crop with photoperiods. They are not useful to you maybe but it doesn't mean they are useless to everybody. They allow some people to grow something when they couldn't grow photoperiods because they would get too big and be a risk because a lot of growers over the world are still growing illegally. Like it or not, autos have their place in today's growing world.
I've had a few autos freebees I've grown in my veg space and I've been surprised by the potency I got, it was some decent smoke, nothing extraordinary but it got me properly stone.

And thats why i specified you can force-flower them outdoor, so you dont have to smoke any sub-par boof; i made my points considering every possible scenario, and autos are never worth it. Never. Got friends up in Spain with literally *hectares* of photoperiods they force flower, sure they could be just doing autos, but those are just too trash to smoke n s3ll, a good photo is much stronger, tastier and yields better. Im talking about seedjunky stuff, archive, compound, whatever, but the name of the game is genetics and no one should be wasting time on watered down garbage for any reason. We usually call autos canary food. Nuff said

 

[Nannymouse]

What didn't you like about it. I've grown it and had it around for some years. It yields heavy, smoke and high are good. Smells like sour grapes tho lol

Edit: @RobFromTX

I liked it.

 

[Countryboy]

I don't know why this popped up in my feed but, I have thoughts:
In 2000, I paid $150 for a 10 pack and got a good deal. Paid that or more for Dutch Flowers and don't get me started on auctions, although I found GREAT 1's in an OT1 he did for a friend. Some Sly 1-offs. Seed cost is 1 of the cheaper inputs( according to Mr Soul). The most valuable is TIME. Wasting 3-4 months on hay is a horrible thing-see Green Giant/Big Bud.

@Old Uncle Ben​

That reminds me, I remember when Sly BANNED you, Bendejo, your wheel-barrow of 'pot', grown with Miracle Grow, and you taking over Shanti's forum while he was in prison.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

I don't know why this popped up in my feed but, I have thoughts:
In 2000, I paid $150 for a 10 pack and got a good deal. Paid that or more for Dutch Flowers and don't get me started on auctions, although I found GREAT 1's in an OT1 he did for a friend. Some Sly 1-offs. Seed cost is 1 of the cheaper inputs( according to Mr Soul). The most valuable is TIME. Wasting 3-4 months on hay is a horrible thing-see Green Giant/Big Bud.

@Old Uncle Ben​

That reminds me, I remember when Sly BANNED you, Bendejo, your wheel-barrow of 'pot', grown with Miracle Grow, and you taking over Shanti's forum while he was in prison.

Sly may have banned Uncle Ben as pay back. Ben outted Mr Soul at cannabis dot com when he was using the sock puppet handle Nehru Jacket. Prior to RC starting cannabisworld.

 

[Countryboy]

Sly may have banned Uncle Ben as pay back. Ben outted Mr Soul at cannabis dot com when he was using the sock puppet handle Nehru Jacket. Prior to RC starting cannabisworld.

Sly banned Ben cause he's an ass-hole. Soul had a bit of it in himself, he deleted a post where I called A11 'viney'.
Remember Vic's old site? Rosso is on 1 I admin. I love that guy!

 

[El Timbo]

you can cover them outdoor in guerrilla growing,

Wouldn't that involve hiking out to (possibly multiple) sites every 12 hours to cover and uncover them? It doesn't sound very feasible and certainly not very stealthy.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

Sly banned Ben cause he's an ass-hole. Soul had a bit of it in himself, he deleted a post where I called A11 'viney'.
Remember Vic's old site? Rosso is on 1 I admin. I love that guy!

BCGA?

I used lurk at Vic and Mark Emery's sites

 

[Red Freeze]

Wouldn't that involve hiking out to (possibly multiple) sites every 12 hours to cover and uncover them? It doesn't sound very feasible and certainly not very stealthy.

Yes (unless you can put an automated system clearly). You only have to do it for a week or so and it takes minutes. But if you cant, you can use pots and move the plants near trees or walls, heck we used to put plants on trees, that works out well too. As long as they get 12h shade/dark where they're placed its good

 

[El Timbo]

Yes (unless you can put an automated system clearly). You only have to do it for a week or so and it takes minutes. But if you cant, you can use pots and move the plants near trees or walls, heck we used to put plants on trees, that works out well too. As long as they get 12h shade/dark where they're placed its good

But not so easy for guerilla growing in very remote places though right?

 

[Red Freeze]

But not so easy for guerilla growing in very remote places though right?

As i already said, you can place them near a tree, or a wall, or whatever cover, as long as it gets 12h dark. You can search for the right spot where it gets 12h sun/12h shade and just leave them there until they start flowering so you only have to move them once. This way you can smoke true herb and avoid watered down toy grass

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

And thats why i specified you can force-flower them outdoor, so you dont have to smoke any sub-par boof; i made my points considering every possible scenario, and autos are never worth it. Never. Got friends up in Spain with literally *hectares* of photoperiods they force flower, sure they could be just doing autos, but those are just too trash to smoke n s3ll, a good photo is much stronger, tastier and yields better. Im talking about seedjunky stuff, archive, compound, whatever, but the name of the game is genetics and no one should be wasting time on watered down garbage for any reason. We usually call autos canary food. Nuff said

If it's "watered down" then that shows an incompetent breeder. And as opposed to get rich quick pollen chuckers with a fancy site, there are good breeders around that understand the dynamics of Mendel genetics. I trust dubi at Ace Seeds to one such dedicated and very patient example. https://www.icmag.com/threads/auto-zamaldelica-feminized.369399/page-26

Here's his explanation of how Rudy is in the background and does not 'water down' the potency, post 751. https://www.icmag.com/threads/lebanese.349127/page-38#post-18771313

 

[kro-magnon]

If it's "watered down" then that shows an incompetent breeder. And as opposed to get rich quick pollen chuckers with a fancy site, there are good breeders around that understand the dynamics of Mendel genetics. I trust dubi at Ace Seeds to one such dedicated and very patient example. https://www.icmag.com/threads/auto-zamaldelica-feminized.369399/page-26

Here's his explanation of how Rudy is in the background and does not 'water down' the potency, post 751. https://www.icmag.com/threads/lebanese.349127/page-38#post-18771313

Thanks for the recommandation on the other post but I don't need autos, I just grow them when I got some as freebees. I have a perpetual grow with veg and bloom in different spaces, I grow photoperiods in my set-up but unlike some ignorants I understand why some may need autos to be able to grow, it's always better to grow some of your own if possible and autos allow some to grow in conditions where photoperiods couldn't grow.

 

[Porky82]

And thats why i specified you can force-flower them outdoor, so you dont have to smoke any sub-par boof; i made my points considering every possible scenario, and autos are never worth it. Never. Got friends up in Spain with literally *hectares* of photoperiods they force flower, sure they could be just doing autos, but those are just too trash to smoke n s3ll, a good photo is much stronger, tastier and yields better. Im talking about seedjunky stuff, archive, compound, whatever, but the name of the game is genetics and no one should be wasting time on watered down garbage for any reason. We usually call autos canary food. Nuff said

I've grown plenty of autos that have been just as strong as photos.
A lot less effort to grow an auto compared to covering photo plant. Not to mention bud rot with covering a lot of plants outside.
Do you have any pics of your friends grows with hectares covered for light deprivation as I'd love to see em?

 

[ost]

The average prices are becoming ridiculous and it won't go down, so many people believe spending a lot means you get the better genetics it won't change. In the cannabis seeds business there is a lot of scam artists and a lot of money can be made by selling ultra hyped average genetics.
Some expensive seeds can deliver some good buds but it's not the best criteria to know if it's worth growing, today some cheap seeds can deliver as good buds as 20€ ones, it's a mess and it's not easy to know what to buy.

it takes growin a few to see ,if the buzz meets your requirements,and if the seeds from the grow ,are the same as the og plants

 

[aCBD]

what is going on here..
some people like to grow autos or have no other choice.
some people have a low tolerance and are fine with autos.
to each their own!
if you don't like auto varieties, it's fine, i also don't bother with them but throwing insults around makes you look weak.
maybe it's time to do a walk, smoke less or doing a tolerance break.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

what is going on here..
some people like to grow autos or have no other choice.
some people have a low tolerance and are fine with autos.
to each their own!
if you don't like auto varieties, it's fine, i also don't bother with them but throwing insults around makes you look weak.
maybe it's time to do a walk, smoke less or doing a tolerance break.

Autos are not my cup of tea but also not a reason for posers to funk up a thread with BS stories and insults.