Hermie

[Mr.Sparky]

I have had a lot of hermie plants from seed runs lately?

I don't think it's the seeds I have ran 4 different breeders(bodhi, 14ers, reserve privda Colo and seeds man freebies) I have had very high ball dropping rate. I have Clones I have been running that never hermie could this just be bad genetics?

I have checked the room for light leaks and their are none? the only thing I have done different is lst to Bush out the new plants? Could this be enough to cause hermie? Might have to stop running seeds?

 

[BOMBAYCAT]

Some factors in hermies are temperatures (debateable) and light leaks (likely). You don't say which variety, but Thai are notorious for throwing balls. Some varieties you mention should have been worked enough so they don't throw hermies. Bushing the plants should not be enough to throw hermies unless the process is very stressful for the plants in which case they act out by throwing balls. I need to know more about your process of bushing as I have been ok with my LST etc.

 

[Budley Doright]

Your thinking is spot on....

If you have plants that hermie...and clones dont.....


Think genetics FIRST...


Dont let the breeder baloney influence you.....

 

[Mr.Sparky]

Room stats
82 lights on 70-74 lights off
Humidity 30-50%
Coco in 3 Gallon grow bags watered daily ppm 850-900
Genetics
Seeds
Bodhi skylotus and satsuma
14ers 4xog and additive afghan
Stedman few og kush and white widow

Clones
Gg4 clone never hermie
Gsc Berner cut clone never hermie
Birthday cake kush clone never hermie
It's weird I run Clones and have no problem?

Seeds all got the same treatment.
I Topped at about 6 weeks then with the 4 tops I was given I tied each down so they were even after that they were transplanted to their final containers and given 30 days before I flowered them, they have been in flower 2weeks I just went down to the room opened the door during lights off (obviously made the room dark before entering) and sat their for about 10 minutes their are no light leaks?

 

[Lefthand]

Hermies in my experience have been: genetics, light leaks, heat stress(to close to bulb), letting plants wilt, basically plants have to be stressed to the point of them going into survival of species mode.
If your room is a no stress, no light leak area and your not nute burning your plants on the reg then it is genetics.

 

[Lefthand]

I only cut clones of plants that have proven to be stable, maybe whoever u got the clones from has the same policy.

 

[Budley Doright]

Stable for me has a simple definition....

The plant didnt have any male goodies as a seed plant....

 

[Fly by Night]

Hermies is ben vary sour my homie, just breathe and push a little. Can't say enough good abot the nanners I've fondled

 

[Lefthand]

Stable for me has a simple definition....

The plant didnt have any male goodies as a seed plant....

I don't know why my buds have beans in them the plant was so stable as a seedling..lol...

If I see hermies in flower that strain/pheno is no longer going to be ran in my rooms. So many options out there why would anybody continue to run unstable genetics.

What a plant does later in life is what I consider stable, she might be the best looking female seedling ever but if she starts putting out dicks and tries to pollenate herself or others in flower then she is unstable.

 

[BOMBAYCAT]

I have found a total of 6 seeds in my last summer outdoor crop so far. I grew the very same varieties outdoors in the last couple years so I don't think hermies. My neighbor had the first grow outside last year with some plants given to the girlfriend. Unfortunately they were large plants by last spring and no one presexed them before the neighbor got them. Some pollen must have wind blown across the street. Anyway I am growing out the seeds to see if anything interesting comes out. One plant shows astonishing hybrid vigor though.

 

[Budley Doright]

I don't know why my buds have beans in them the plant was so stable as a seedling..lol...

If I see hermies in flower that strain/pheno is no longer going to be ran in my rooms. So many options out there why would anybody continue to run unstable genetics.

What a plant does later in life is what I consider stable, she might be the best looking female seedling ever but if she starts putting out dicks and tries to pollenate herself or others in flower then she is unstable.

There are 2 kinds of hermies.....

The balls type...and the nanner type....

I agree....anything that forms male flowers...that can dangle and get their pollen airborne bad idea....

The other kind..... the nanners..Im less than firm about.....

normally the nanner type doesnt cause seeds.....


The male parts dont seem to dry out enough to split and get airborne....


I see quite a few really nice plants that have nanners.....

 

[blastfrompast]

A few nanner's late in flower is acceptable for me if it is a great strain...and only if it appears under stress...

Just curious
Have you added anything new to the seedlings nute wise that you don't give your clones? any additives, perhaps kelp derived?

I had terrible luck with one product that caused every plant to toss full blown balls....turns out I was mixing it way to hot....Haven't used it since on MJ, tho it does crazy stuff to grean beans, etc. when you use the dosage I was using..lol

 

[MJPassion]

normally the nanner type doesnt cause seeds.....

Have you been listening to Dr Ferver?

What is quoted above is complete and utter bull shit!

ALL MALE ANTHERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TOSS POLLEN!

Sterile nanners are few and far between. I've yet to encounter any in my more than 20years of growing.
Then again....INTERSEX cannabis plants don't survive long in my gardens.
I have had too many incidents in the past where I've been picking unintended seeds from buds.

 

[aridbud]

Your thinking is spot on....

If you have plants that hermie...and clones dont.....


Think genetics FIRST...


Dont let the breeder baloney influence you.....

Very much in agreement w/ Burnt Rope!!

GENETICS play a huge part in hermaphroditic traits!! Temperature fluctuation minor. Recall the breeders mentioned in the post having problems with that....and if I recall, it wasn't from light leaks. 'Twas inferior/weak genetics.

For years, had light leaks indoors (accidental), had light pollution halogen street lights when growing outdoors....nary a one hermied.