Hempy Bucket Basic Questions

[Cali smoke]

how do i know when the roots have hit the res?

when the pot starts getting lite and you can tell it's drinking from the res when you don't see as much excess water coming out from watering everyday.

 

[oldschoolfarmer]

quick question - can one use Blazeoneup's organic soil recipe for the top layer of the hempy buckets?

 

[Dalaihempy]

quick question - can one use Blazeoneup's organic soil recipe for the top layer of the hempy buckets?

If you want to run an organic medium run coco and fill the rez up to the drain hole with perlite to allow the coco to drain and work as it should.

 

[oldschoolfarmer]

I live in BFE and supplies are very limited... I would like to run organic hempys though. I was thinking blazeoneup's recipe for the top layer, a layer of window screen, a layer of quilt batting, a layer of screen and then the perlite on bottom. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

I've pretty much purchased the buckets and all for hempys, but haven't cut the holes yet Thanks for your help!

 

[Dalaihempy]

I live in BFE and supplies are very limited... I would like to run organic hempys though. I was thinking blazeoneup's recipe for the top layer, a layer of window screen, a layer of quilt batting, a layer of screen and then the perlite on bottom. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

I've pretty much purchased the buckets and all for hempys, but haven't cut the holes yet Thanks for your help!

hi oldschoolfarmer to be honest i wouldnt go that but your grow so you can only try in all honesty if i was you and i could not find any type of decent medium then i would just go get my self some good size pots and go a good soil mix instead mate.

 

[oldschoolfarmer]

Thanks Dalai. I'll look around online to purchase some coco; but if that fails I'll be running an experimental organic-hempy-non-coco gro At least it will be interesting! haha

 

[SlowCalaToker]

I live in BFE and supplies are very limited... I would like to run organic hempys though. I was thinking blazeoneup's recipe for the top layer, a layer of window screen, a layer of quilt batting, a layer of screen and then the perlite on bottom. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

I've pretty much purchased the buckets and all for hempys, but haven't cut the holes yet Thanks for your help!

Hey OSF, the screen would defeat the purpose of the res. The tap root could not access the res and you would be relying on the "wick" of your media to draw liquid up.

The hempy is pretty idiot resistant (an idiot will always find a way to fuck it up....) as described by dalihempy. I use 100% pearlite FWIW, and reuse after a good soaking in DI H2O (bubble-bubble to mix). If I were going to go all organic, I would use the coco over the pearlite method. Anything else seems to be overkill and complicating a system chosen for its simplicity.

Good luck!

 

[no0dlemice]

great thread, i have some questions though,

1. when starting out from seed, is it hard to transplant from 18oz solo cups to 3g container? considering the perlite/verm mixture probably doesn't hold very well...

2. when in seedling/pre veg stage (i'm assuming that's prior to root hitting the res) do you add water every day til' nutrient solution flows out of hole? cause otherwise wouldn't it become stagnant and go bad?

3. also, when feeding do you add nute solution until ~30% of (old) solution runs out of the hole? or would that not make much sense?

thanks guys!

 

[SlowCalaToker]

great thread, i have some questions though,

1. when starting out from seed, is it hard to transplant from 18oz solo cups to 3g container? considering the perlite/verm mixture probably doesn't hold very well...

Not hard at all. If you are using a plastic or styrofoam 18oz cup, just cut the bottom off of it and stick the whole thing in the 3g bucket. The roots will find their own way down to the new res very quickly.

2. when in seedling/pre veg stage (i'm assuming that's prior to root hitting the res) do you add water every day til' nutrient solution flows out of hole? cause otherwise wouldn't it become stagnant and go bad?

Yes water every day. You will know when the tap root hits the res, the plant will literally explode with growth. Once the tap root gets there, slow your watering down to when the cup is light and the res is dry, usually every couple of days with big buckets. I use cups, so I have to water more frequently due to the smaller size of my res. This will give the plant the needed dry cycle to air up the roots. Dalihempy has done the research and his yeilds and plant health were no different with an airstone in the res, so I don't believe the water/nute solution is in the res long enough to get stagnent. The pearlite acts as a wick, so the liquid is drawn up to the thirsty roots as fast as the plant can use it. Stagnation really doesn't factor in due to the speed at which the liquid is used. I do, however, bubble the water I'm using, just to make sure it's fully saturated with O2.

3. also, when feeding do you add nute solution until ~30% of (old) solution runs out of the hole? or would that not make much sense?

thanks guys!

Don't quite get your question, I hope I answered it in the above answer. I water just until I get a drop or two our of the drain hole. Not a lot, nutes are too expensive to pour down the drain!

Good luck broham! Hempy rocks!

 

[no0dlemice]

Not hard at all. If you are using a plastic or styrofoam 18oz cup, just cut the bottom off of it and stick the whole thing in the 3g bucket. The roots will find their own way down to the new res very quickly.



Yes water every day. You will know when the tap root hits the res, the plant will literally explode with growth. Once the tap root gets there, slow your watering down to when the cup is light and the res is dry, usually every couple of days with big buckets. I use cups, so I have to water more frequently due to the smaller size of my res. This will give the plant the needed dry cycle to air up the roots. Dalihempy has done the research and his yeilds and plant health were no different with an airstone in the res, so I don't believe the water/nute solution is in the res long enough to get stagnent. The pearlite acts as a wick, so the liquid is drawn up to the thirsty roots as fast as the plant can use it. Stagnation really doesn't factor in due to the speed at which the liquid is used. I do, however, bubble the water I'm using, just to make sure it's fully saturated with O2.



Don't quite get your question, I hope I answered it in the above answer. I water just until I get a drop or two our of the drain hole. Not a lot, nutes are too expensive to pour down the drain!

Good luck broham! Hempy rocks!

Yes, you answered all my questions i just needed some second opinions on everything. i remember reading somewhere (pertaining to question 3) that the person added nutes until ~30% of the nute solution drained out to make sure to replace some of the older nute solution in the res. but to me when i thought about it why would ~30% solution come out if your watering when there's barely any nute solution in the res.!? that'd be a waste of nutes to me. i just wanted a second opinion on this. thanks guys for all your help though! i greatly appreciate it.

oh, pertain to answer #1 would cutting just the bottom off be beneficial enough? id rather take everything out of the cup and transplant like that but if it's okay it's okay i'll experiment a little i just wanna get it right in my head before i start getting into it.

 

[SlowCalaToker]

Yes, you answered all my questions i just needed some second opinions on everything. i remember reading somewhere (pertaining to question 3) that the person added nutes until ~30% of the nute solution drained out to make sure to replace some of the older nute solution in the res. but to me when i thought about it why would ~30% solution come out if your watering when there's barely any nute solution in the res.!? that'd be a waste of nutes to me. i just wanted a second opinion on this. thanks guys for all your help though! i greatly appreciate it.

Cool, it will be good to see if others agree with my take. I am known to be wrong on occassion - just ask my ex-wife!

oh, pertain to answer #1 would cutting just the bottom off be beneficial enough? id rather take everything out of the cup and transplant like that but if it's okay it's okay i'll experiment a little i just wanna get it right in my head before i start getting into it.

Cutting off the bottom and just shoving it in there does work, it also has the benefit of not screwing with the roots at all, hence no transplant shock. The plants just keep chugging along with no recovery period. It doesn't look too pretty, but it is easier on the plants. Since you are not using soil in hempy, but just a media, it really doesn't matter one way or the other. If I were in soil, or the hempy/organic hybrid, I would transplant. But I use 100% pearlite, so no biggie.

Good luck bro, and stay safe!

 

[Tropical_grower]

Hey everybody,

I see the thread hasn't had any activity lately, there's great info on it, though. I'm considering this method in 2 liter Coke bottles to make a sog and would like to have feedback on some ideas.

* I plan on using the "neck" of the bottle cut off and inserted upside down, so as to create a physical barrier between the top layer and the bottom, with some coco fiber separating them near the bottle's mouth. Would the roots would be constrained passing through the small whole? Should I cut the last 2 or 3 inches off the top of the bottles to widen it a bit?

* I'm currently using a homemade organic tea with castor bean meal, bone meal, humus, compost, ashes, fruit peels, molasses and lime with a traditional soil medium. Could I use this same nute mix with a hempy like this one? Would I need some specific medium in the top layer? Which takes me to my last question.

* I've read the Dalai talking about using coco in the top layer if organic nutes are to be used. Would that be coco fiber (the kind that looks like a hairball) or ground coco (the kind that looks like... ground coco)? What about the separating layer, which kind?

I'd greatly appreciate any input!

 

[Lord Doobie]

holy ancient thread batman
best to spend some time and read this and the official hempy bucket thread

this thread is mixing apples and oranges
hempybucquets and hempy buckets are 2 different things
one uses soil and the original is soil-less

 

[wickedpete66]

Great thread guys

I have been growing hempy style for almost a year now and i have to say i am getting the biggest yields i have ever had compared to soil.

I use 1 gallon buckets with a drain hole about 3" from the bottom. Fill the botton with perlite till about 1" above the hole and then the rest with coco. I find 3" from the bottom gives a better size rez using 1 gallon buckets. i feed 1x daily till the plants start showing flowers then i feed 2x's day

 

[Tropical_grower]

holy ancient thread batman
best to spend some time and read this and the official hempy bucket thread

this thread is mixing apples and oranges
hempybucquets and hempy buckets are 2 different things
one uses soil and the original is soil-less

I've actually spent such time and read both threads, but there are those moments when I just cannot be sure of what I should do based on instructions that often give scattered information, which makes it pretty damn hard to know the answers to specific questions.

Such as mine, which still stands: could I use an organic tea to feed plants in a hempybucquet or a hempy bucket?

I'm fully aware they're different concepts, I just really ain't sure whether I can use my tea with either system. Please, if it isn't too much trouble, a simple yes or no would suffice. An explanation of the why also would be helpful, though secondary.

 

[HossCartwright]

Great thread guys

I have been growing hempy style for almost a year now and i have to say i am getting the biggest yields i have ever had compared to soil.

I use 1 gallon buckets with a drain hole about 3" from the bottom. Fill the botton with perlite till about 1" above the hole and then the rest with coco. I find 3" from the bottom gives a better size rez using 1 gallon buckets. i feed 1x daily till the plants start showing flowers then i feed 2x's day

2x a day? really? your plants don't burn or wilt? what nutes do you use? ppm?

 

[Tropical_grower]

So let me take a moment to clear myself up: this thread does a really great job in providing info, it's me who was messed up. Sorry if I was a bit rough (I read my last post and thought I was), it's past 2am now and it's been an 8 to 7 day, head's spinning.

I posted my original questions to get some discussion going, I'm a noob attempting the third grow and would like to avoid screwing up from the design up with this great idea. Since the original post of the thread talked about molasses and fish emulsion, I wondered if the tea recipe I already have would work or if people would have any ideas on it. I guess I'll just go with it and see where I get.

I also wondered about the setup with the necks upside down into the end of the bottle, I might post a picture of the whole thing when I make one. I'm actually getting some ideas to try, this might get interesting.

But then, I'll stop hijacking the thread and create my own.

Peace and pot.

 

[wickedpete66]

2x a day? really? your plants don't burn or wilt? what nutes do you use? ppm?

I feed at 630-770 ppms at ph of 6.0 using gh micro, bloom and kool bloom. From about week 3 on each plant will easily take about 80 ounces a day now that the weather is drier. When using hempy buckets its important to make sure the rez is filled at all times and i find feeding 2x a day does that.

 

[Lord Doobie]

concerning organics...

in a system like this you want to use hydro nutes..but organic teas an coco specific nutes work well to

The issue with hempy buckets seems to be that they are best suited to artificial hydro nutes.