eddie torres
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I need someone with act tea experience to help me with a recipe. I see hundreds of different recipies on the internet. Which are the best? And why?
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help with act teas?
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eddie torres
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thanks. microbeman has been recommended to me a few times now. Those are the types of hints im lookin for to see what people are doing out there.
these are good teas and have been lab tested...
Bacterial Tea
4 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars (honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
*1-2 oz. (2-4 tbsp.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
*.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 24 - 48 hours and apply to root or leaf zone; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.
Balanced Tea (Bacteria to Fungi)
2 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
2 cups Humus or other form of fungi dominated compost
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
1 oz Humic Acids
*1-2 oz. (2-4 tbl.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.
Fungi Tea
4 cups Humus or mature fungi dominated compost
1 oz Humic Acids
.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
*1 tbsp. Rock Phosphate Powder
*2-3 tbsp. flour (oat or wheat)
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 24-48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be aerated up until it is applied. To increase the fungal biomass, treat compost with .5 oz kelp, .25 oz Fish Hydrolysate 24-48 hours before brewing.
Other Tea Blends
Guano Tea
4 - 8 tbl. Bat or Seabird Guano of choice
*2 tbsp. complex liquid sugars (molasses, honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
*.5 oz Soluble Kelp
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 48 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone.
Alfalfa Tea
1 cup ground Alfalfa meal
* 1 - 4 cups Earthworm Castings or mature compost
*2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars
*.5 oz Soluble Kelp
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 24 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone. Alfalfa tea is good source of vitamins A and B; Folic acids, Amino acids, crude proteins, high Nitrogen(N), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), sulphur(S), Manganese(Mn), iron(Fe), copper(Cu), boron(B), and zinc(Zn).
Liquid Plant Extract
5 Gallon Garden Tea Brewer
Young Comfrey, Nettle, and/or Dandelion leaves
4-5galChlorine-free Water
Instructions: Fill a 5 gallon bucket (loosely) with chopped/ crushed young Comfrey, Nettle, or Dandelion leaves. Faster fermentation will occur if the stems and leaves are bruised. Fill the rest of the bucket with chlorine free water, cover, place in a shaded area, and brew for 2 weeks in warm weather (70 - 90% water temp) or 4-5 weeks in cool weather (50 - 70%). This mix can sit without active aeration and ferment with time. Warning! If making plant extracted teas without active aeration, teas will smell like an open sewer throughout fermentation and when finished. The end product will be a dark concentrated liquid fertilizer. After the fermentation period strain liquid and squeeze the remnants to extract as much juice as possible. Feed the solid wastes to your compost pile. Filter and store tea in a cool dark place or in refrigeration. All of the above listed plant extracts are an excellent stand-alone fertilizer for many annuals and perennials.
Comfrey tea is a good source of vitamin A and C; calcium(Ca), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), along with many trace minerals.
Nettle tea is good source of vitamins A, C, and K; calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), boron(B), bromine(Br), copper(Cu), iron(Fe), selenium(Se), silicon(Si), and zinc(Zn).
Dandelion tea is a good source of vitamins A and C, calcium(Ca), and potassium(K).
Application: Filtered liquid extracts should be diluted to a tea color, at a rate of 1 tsp. tea extract to 1 gallon chlorine-free water. Plant extracts can be diluted at ratios up to 15:1 depending on maturity and phase of plant growth (1 part filtered extract to 15 parts water).
heres a good link
microbeorganics.com
Bacterial Tea
4 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars (honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
*1-2 oz. (2-4 tbsp.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
*.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 24 - 48 hours and apply to root or leaf zone; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.
Balanced Tea (Bacteria to Fungi)
2 cups Earthworm Castings or other forms of bacterially dominated compost
2 cups Humus or other form of fungi dominated compost
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
1 oz Humic Acids
*1-2 oz. (2-4 tbl.) liquid plant extract (made from comfrey, nettle, or dandelion)
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied.
Fungi Tea
4 cups Humus or mature fungi dominated compost
1 oz Humic Acids
.5 oz Fish Hydrolysate
.5 oz Soluble Kelp
*1 tbsp. Rock Phosphate Powder
*2-3 tbsp. flour (oat or wheat)
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 24-48 hours and apply within 72; tea must be aerated up until it is applied. To increase the fungal biomass, treat compost with .5 oz kelp, .25 oz Fish Hydrolysate 24-48 hours before brewing.
Other Tea Blends
Guano Tea
4 - 8 tbl. Bat or Seabird Guano of choice
*2 tbsp. complex liquid sugars (molasses, honey, agave, natural syrups,or fruit juices)
*.5 oz Soluble Kelp
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 48 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone.
Alfalfa Tea
1 cup ground Alfalfa meal
* 1 - 4 cups Earthworm Castings or mature compost
*2 tbsp. molasses or other complex liquid sugars
*.5 oz Soluble Kelp
4-5 gal Chlorine-free Water
Brew for 12 - 24 hours; tea must be kept aerated until it is applied. Apply to root zone. Alfalfa tea is good source of vitamins A and B; Folic acids, Amino acids, crude proteins, high Nitrogen(N), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), sulphur(S), Manganese(Mn), iron(Fe), copper(Cu), boron(B), and zinc(Zn).
Liquid Plant Extract
5 Gallon Garden Tea Brewer
Young Comfrey, Nettle, and/or Dandelion leaves
4-5galChlorine-free Water
Instructions: Fill a 5 gallon bucket (loosely) with chopped/ crushed young Comfrey, Nettle, or Dandelion leaves. Faster fermentation will occur if the stems and leaves are bruised. Fill the rest of the bucket with chlorine free water, cover, place in a shaded area, and brew for 2 weeks in warm weather (70 - 90% water temp) or 4-5 weeks in cool weather (50 - 70%). This mix can sit without active aeration and ferment with time. Warning! If making plant extracted teas without active aeration, teas will smell like an open sewer throughout fermentation and when finished. The end product will be a dark concentrated liquid fertilizer. After the fermentation period strain liquid and squeeze the remnants to extract as much juice as possible. Feed the solid wastes to your compost pile. Filter and store tea in a cool dark place or in refrigeration. All of the above listed plant extracts are an excellent stand-alone fertilizer for many annuals and perennials.
Comfrey tea is a good source of vitamin A and C; calcium(Ca), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), along with many trace minerals.
Nettle tea is good source of vitamins A, C, and K; calcium(Ca), magnesium(Mg), phosphorus(P), potassium(K), boron(B), bromine(Br), copper(Cu), iron(Fe), selenium(Se), silicon(Si), and zinc(Zn).
Dandelion tea is a good source of vitamins A and C, calcium(Ca), and potassium(K).
Application: Filtered liquid extracts should be diluted to a tea color, at a rate of 1 tsp. tea extract to 1 gallon chlorine-free water. Plant extracts can be diluted at ratios up to 15:1 depending on maturity and phase of plant growth (1 part filtered extract to 15 parts water).
heres a good link
microbeorganics.com
Sinkyone
Member
Soil Food Web Inc has some good info on it as well, but I know some people do not like Dr. Ingham. Regardless it is a good read IMO:
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/sfi_approach1.html
Also the brewer is just as important as the recipe. Either buy a lab tested one or use a known and proven design if you are going to build one.
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/sfi_approach1.html
Also the brewer is just as important as the recipe. Either buy a lab tested one or use a known and proven design if you are going to build one.
eddie torres
Member
thanks for the education everyone. Glad i joined this forum
the best act recipes are the ones designed by people with microscopes and an education in soil biology.
i stick with microbeman's from microbeorganics.com.
equally important is to have a pump that is powerful enough to sustain the appropriate dissolved oxygen levels.
i stick with microbeman's from microbeorganics.com.
equally important is to have a pump that is powerful enough to sustain the appropriate dissolved oxygen levels.
BlueCheer
Member
Well eddies torres , "new member", glad you asked that question, which means. "Welcome aboard Bro!!!
I traveled between, BurnOne, Joe Fresh, Vonforne, Jay Kush, MicobeMan, and the soil genius,..... "The Mad Librettist,"........ who all led me on an amazing journey to find the soil truth.
So I devised my own formula with all that I have available. The local, normal, available resources "at hand", the least amount of trail dust.
Every single pot that the "TEA" touched stood out HOURS later like "I've never experienced ever before..........more later....the tea factor blew my mind!
Cheer
I traveled between, BurnOne, Joe Fresh, Vonforne, Jay Kush, MicobeMan, and the soil genius,..... "The Mad Librettist,"........ who all led me on an amazing journey to find the soil truth.
So I devised my own formula with all that I have available. The local, normal, available resources "at hand", the least amount of trail dust.
Every single pot that the "TEA" touched stood out HOURS later like "I've never experienced ever before..........more later....the tea factor blew my mind!
Cheer
eddie torres
Member
thanks for the welcome. going to start my first organic grow soon. got some questions before i start. figured this might be the best place to get the answers.
gratefulart
Member
I as well eddie. I just put my first super soil mix together and am now on the hunt for a tea recipe for flowering. Guano, bacterial, fungi tea? I dunno yet. I am leaning towards the guano, but dont know why to choose a certain one.
But i am interested in following this thread for more info. Thanks
But i am interested in following this thread for more info. Thanks
eddie torres
Member
From my understanding. Bacterial tea is more for veg. fungal for flower. the guano teas will boost your npk. what do u have in your soil? the organics for begginers skicky is helpful.. check it out.
you don't need special teas/separate for veg and bloom.
eddie torres
Member
thanks for setting that straight. As a newbie to organic. all these tea recipes are a little confusing as in which one to go with. Since you seem to have a lot of knowledge in this area i have another statement/ ?? for you. burnones beginers guide gives some different recipes for soil mixes/tea. Ive gotten some comments from some people saying they stay away from the blood bone meal blends because they dont like the flavor/taste of these amendments. Which recipe would they want to be going with then?
RipVanWeed
Member
If you have built up your "supersoil" for a water only grow, the guano tea will be too much for the more delicate girls. IME preamended organic soils alone can be too much for finicky plants.
I overdid my whole garden with the combination of amended soil and tea's. Kept trying to fix things with plain EWC and molasses tea, or an EWC slurry. Once I backed down on everything it all balanced out.
Again IME, "supersoil" and guano tea's.....Fail
"supersoil-lite" and occasional EWC tea......
Good Luck Eddie, listen to Joe and Mad. Read all you can by MicrobeMan, CT Guy, JayKush. I'm a learner sharing my experience, the forementioned are all beyond expert.
Respect,
I overdid my whole garden with the combination of amended soil and tea's. Kept trying to fix things with plain EWC and molasses tea, or an EWC slurry. Once I backed down on everything it all balanced out.
Again IME, "supersoil" and guano tea's.....Fail
"supersoil-lite" and occasional EWC tea......
Good Luck Eddie, listen to Joe and Mad. Read all you can by MicrobeMan, CT Guy, JayKush. I'm a learner sharing my experience, the forementioned are all beyond expert.
Respect,
eddie torres
Member
thanks. i think what i will do for my first organic round will be 1/2 supersoil h2o only. and 1/2 w/ teas see which one works best for me and go from there.
yeah, you can always top dress/nute tea/whatever to fix a shortage, but it's a lot harder to fix when you have too much.
eddie torres
Member
i believe that foliar feeding is the bomb!!
C
CT Guy
thank you! i hate that myth, because it feeds the myth of high P during flower and N during veg....
