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help! some problems w/my plant

274grower

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my plant is in the beginning stage of flowering and has a few problems. The first problem is that some of the middle leaves tips are curling down and the sides are folding under themselves. the 2nd is that some of those leaves are also droopy and also have like a spot that is kind of a rust color that is growing. the next problem is that a pair of 3 leaf fan leaves on the very bottom died and dried up and now the second pair of 3 leaf fan leaves are half way dead and dried up and i think its goin to do this the whole way up. and the last problem is that my main stalk is strong at the bottom and weak at the top by the flowering sites. PLZ HELP ME!
 
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possibly you have overferted them?

can you give more information as to what your set-up is?

if the leaves are curling under and dying I would run fresh water with a ph adjusted to 6.5 through whatever medium you are growing in.

good luck
 

274grower

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i have a pot that measures 9x10x9 with 85% soil and 15% perlite, yea ive tried flushing it already and it didnt do much difference but then again i dont have a ph tester
 

ph6.5

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one thing that would help us here to help you is a pic or two and more detailed info like- water ph, type of nutes, type of soil you use, how often you feed ect.

thanks

ph6.5
 
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274grower

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i dont have a ph meter, i use bayer rose garden food 10-20-10, walmart potting soil???, probably ever 3 waterings
 

BruceLeeroy

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weak droppy leaves and a weak soft stem...are you overwatering them to death? are they being allowed to dry out completely before you water?
 

274grower

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i thought i had a salt build up because of dying of the leaves so i flushed it and its still drying frome then
 

BruceLeeroy

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was the soil wet when you flushed? are you letting it dry completely, every watering? are you using tap water to flush? did the problem stay the same, get a little better, or get worse when you flushed?

if your not letting it dry completely and you dont have a high perlite ratio, then i'm still betting overwatering. 15% perlite can be enough depending on light/heat. the less light/heat you have, the more perlite you need. i've found mothers under fluoro'
s need a ton of perlite to do really good, where as the outdoor garden plants dont need nearly as much. overwatering one time one't do any serious damage to most plants depending on how bad you did it. overwatering consistently will kill plants.

here is a great pic by MyNameStitch in his thread on plant problems in the cannabis infirmary. provided by ShopVac


here is the plant problem thread. without seeing pics to show the problem, your best bet is just to check this thread THOROUGHLY. odds are the problem will be solved here

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688


if your using tap water to feed/flush, depending on your area that can be a problem too. i'd tell you to flush again using distilled water but if it's overwatering and you do that, odds are it'll be the straw that breaks the camels back. if the top of the stem seems limp and leaves are getting/turning limp and just sort of hanging there, i'm thinking overwatering. see what others have to say. hope this helps.

peace
 
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ph6.5

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howdy

you can goto walmart if you have one close by and goto the pet or pool section and get test strips they will you a good reading on your ph also if you are usen tap water i would use distilled water in gallon jugs, its all i use and if my brain is working right i think the ph is 7 but the strips will show you. one other thing when you think they need water the plants will tell you cause the
leaf will start to droop like in BruceLeeroy pic he put up and it wont hurt the plants.one other way is to lift the pots if they seem lite but you are still not sure wait till they start to droop a little then water.

even if the pots seem lite they still might be wet in the center most pots will dry for the outside in to the center....

keep use posted


thanks
ph6.5
 
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BruceLeeroy

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no no no. the pic i posted shows a plant suffering from TOO MUCH water. the leaves curl under, the top gets weak and limp, and the larger older leaves will die soones usually. UNDER watering the leaves would be hanging completely limp.

truly is better to wait to water until the leaves go a bit limp until you get a feel for it. it's a different kind of limp than when they're overwatered.
peace
 

ph6.5

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BruceLeeroy- i understand what you ment with the over watering they will droop like that depending on how long they go with out watering the longer the more droop meaning the stems will also but they wont have the discoloration (yellowing) and yes the pic you posted is from over watering and maybe a little weak on N i wasent telling him to water them again. sry if it was taken it that way.

still would need a pic to really give a better answer to what is going on with the plant though.

i wont use Mg or walmart soil, always had a problem with them.. i use promix from homedepot and (2.5 cups of scotts natural bone 1-12-0) and (2.5 cups blood meal 12-0-0) and 3/8 cup of dolomite lime for 15 gallons of soil mix and should be mixed about two weeks before planting. i also add espom salts to my water with a table spoon of h2o2 for the larger plants from time to time but for little ones i use no ferts except a weak fish emulsion (2-4-0.5) at half ratio maybe once and by then there ready for the promix with ferts i put in. then at flowering i flush and use (schultz bloom plus liquid 5-30-5) with chelated iron, manganese & zinc.

thanks

ph6.5
 

BruceLeeroy

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yeah sorry didn't mean like i was jumping on ya, just didn't want him to think he needed to water again lol. i've had nothing but trouble with wallmart soil. bugs, bugs and more bugs

pics would certainly be very helpful.

peace
 
I know what you are talking about! I am having the same problem with one of my AK48's. The leaves look dark green and they are under-curling. The tips are, so is the sides of them. Dont over panic and we both can beat this problem!!

First things first....dont try to OVERCORRECT the problem.
The plant is telling you something and you just have to figure it out!!!

You said you flushed it and it's still that way.....
1. Did you flush it when it was dry or still wet(the soil)
2. You said you feed every 3rd watering. what is your ratio and Nutes?
3. Do a PH test!!!
4. Tap water or distilled water?
5. Temps of your grow room?


Like I said before, I am having the same problem....If I figure it out I will let you KNOW ASAP!
 

Blackmelo

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ok hey guys, I have this problem too at the minute.

Can I just say, any1 who still doesn't know what we are talking about, our leaves look like upside down canoes. Or viking ships.

Now I am treating all my plants the same, it's only the one plant showing it. Nutes are fine, plant is lush, fastest growing plant too, but it has canoe like leaves.

Now the only times I have seen this before was when I'd blow hot air onto my plants and the leaves would curl under. This time my plants are not in their grow room and heat and air movement is an issue.

I really suspect it to have something to do with the air or the air circulation.

Look closely, especially towards the back of the plant, a few leaves curl down
 
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I'd be willing to bet you don't have enough fresh air flowing and it is causing your problems. I've suffered from it before and added more fans to increase airflow and opened the window a few times daily close to the grow op.
 

274grower

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1. Did you flush it when it was dry or still wet(the soil) dry
2. You said you feed every 3rd watering. what is your ratio and Nutes? 10-20-10 bayers rose food
3. Do a PH test!!! ill get a ph tester next time i go to wally world
4. Tap water or distilled water? kroger purified drinking water but flushed using tap water
5. Temps of your grow room? 77degrees farenhiet w/ 60% humidity
 

Blackmelo

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yeah i'm suspecting it to be the airflow. Like I said, temporary growroom that is a bit crappy and this is the fastest growing plant so showing most droop. Hmm, I'll have to fix this.
 
Yes try to get fresh air into your growroom...Check it in about 2 days with fresh air...you should know if its that or not...
 
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