help plz

[Kirbs343]

ok guys, simple help, I have a feeling I am fucking up on something simple, like not monitering my soil ph, or not enough air flow, so gimme your best input and I'd appreciate it. This grow was put on me last minute by a friend who put his seed into a pot outside and let it flower immediately, temps were getting cold outside so I took it for him and made a cab fast, however Im having issues with the leaves furling down in the past week or so. Its in the 6th week of flower (+/- 1 week) so do your best and lemme know what my plan of attach should be to get this girl healthy! Thx


SOIL:

How long has this problem been going on? < 1 wk
What STRAIN are you growing? bagseed
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? est. 6th week of flower
How Tall are the plants? <1 ft
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) bonsai root trim
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) one 4"x4"
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you pro soil-n/a
using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) n/a
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* general hydroponics 2 tbsp flower, 1 tbsp veg, 1 tbsp micro (per gallon) I water once every 3-4 days and use maybe 1/4 liter
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? no meter... :/
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? have yet to check
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? general hydroponics ph vile and solution
How often are you watering? once ea 3-4 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? yesterday (10-8) once on each 3rd to 4th day when the light is on for more than 4+ hrs
What size bulb are you using? 4 cfl's see pic
What is the distance to the canopy? <1 ft
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) na
What is the canopy temperature? na
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) na
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) na
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? moist, but not overly
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hard
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? yes, roots trimmed
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? no
Are plant's infected with pest's?
no

 

[FreezerBoy]

general hydroponics 2 tbsp flower, 1 tbsp veg, 1 tbsp micro (per gallon)

My guess is overfeeding. Cut the Micro to one teaspoon (5ml) per gal and the Bloom to two teaspoons (10) per gal. Dump the green stuff (Grow), it's worthless. Its the 0 in the 0-8-16 Lucas Formula

Personally, I believe Lucas is, at 0-8-16, too strong. You're running a 15-15-30 solution.

 

[stinkyattic]

Too much nitrogen for the amount of light and air flow, far too little exhaust (you need plenty of fresh CO2 rich air), pot too small for that plant, make sure you let the soil dry out slightly between watering.
Re-pot into fresh soil, just a slightly larger pot like a gallon polypot, get a proper exhaust in there, and you should be rockin.

 

[Kirbs343]

Thx Freezerboy, i take it luca's 0-8-16 is ideal for late flower? You gave me some good insight, and i appreciate it. Ill cut back on strength of the solution for surely.


Stinkyattic--Thx for the info on the pot size and air flow, Ill make sure to at least get an oscillating one for expelling the hotness, but Im a complete n00b when it comes to wiring (for ex, a 4" x 4" fan) so that it can be converted to a plug...guess Ill just have to suck it up and get my shit going if I want to grow with any success.

Thanks again you 2

 

[stinkyattic]

Let me guide you
You got home depot around?
Inline duct booster fan, 4"- about $20
Power tool replacement cord, grounded- about $5
Bag of wire nuts- $2
Black to black
White to white
Twist ends and cap with wire nut.
Green to ground, make a 'J' in the end of the green wire and screw in the green ground nut so that it secures the J in place.
Plug in and you are good to grow.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Thx Freezerboy, i take it luca's 0-8-16 is ideal for late flower?

It works for many but, my last grow preferred 0-3-6. I prefer to think of it as proportions. 1:1 in the beginning. 2:1 for aggressive veg growth. 1:2 for flowering. Exact numbers are determined through EC readings. EC goes up, too rich. EC goes down, too lean.

 

[Bluesboy]

Let me guide you
You got home depot around?
Inline duct booster fan, 4"- about $20
Power tool replacement cord, grounded- about $5
Bag of wire nuts- $2
Black to black
White to white
Twist ends and cap with wire nut.
Green to ground, make a 'J' in the end of the green wire and screw in the green ground nut so that it secures the J in place.
Plug in and you are good to grow.

Reminds me of my first florescent light adventure...love it.

Bluesboy

 

[stinkyattic]

^^^ I still have about a half-dozen of these rigs laying in a heap in the corner of my cellar from Grows of Yesteryear, next to 4' T12s with blown ballasts... *sigh... they've since been replaced by Ks and 400cfms... I need to find me a Grasshopper to pass them on to.

 

[Kirbs343]

^^^^^ ME ME ME!!!! lol, I'd gladly take the "vestiges of experience" if you will

General question, however, for my general hydro nutes: Assuming, as Im pretty sure we have, that I have over nuted with GH grow +micro+flower should i flush before going back to 1tsp/gal of micro+flower?

And specifically how many waterings should I do this for? ex. flush daily or flush @ the same 1 time each 3-4 days once the soil has dried up a bit??


Thx again for everyone who has put in great feedback!! You guys are the best

 

[stinkyattic]

You just need to flush once. Problem is that you are definitely going to want to monitor your pH because a nutrient system intended for hydro is not going to buffer in the same range (~6.7) that you want for a soil grow, and especially with a mix based on peat, you are likely to see a sharp drop in pH once the lime is gone. If you can't/don't want to keep track of that, consider something like Pure Blend Pro or Canna Terra that buffers for soil.

And don't forget to hold back on your watering.

 

[Kirbs343]

gracias!! Much obliged