help please possible deficiency/burn (pics)

[obese catfish]

ignore the post count shadiness haha, I'm an active member here
(this is precautionary measure to get the images up due to
security issue with my normally used accnt)

(these pics are about 5 days old.
Its progressed to where almost allt the fan leaves
and some trims leaves around major buds
are basically all yellow
like that one blade in the last picture)
-PH has stayed 6.5
-happyfrog soil bone meal added 1.5tbsp/gal , 2tbsp/gal lime added
-maxicrop liquid seaweed was used every three days cause I thought
it showed a potassium def but then I think that burned it.
since then I only used liquid kelp once a week.
microblast every now and then, same with molasses.
please help ???

 

[obese catfish]

any ideas??
the calyxs have swelled about 3/4 of the way now and the resins coming in thicker. Im guessing 5-8 days till my preferable balance of amber/milky, 3 more until the swelling halts.
all the leaves (except 5% of trim) now have the yellowing appearance in that last picture it seems like there was the burning/deficiency plus yellowing from the usual end of flowring now.

 

[dr.roots]

For sure its a combination of nute burn and a deficiency. possibly a PH lock out... What is the PH of your nute water?

Why dont your flush all your plants with ph'ed water 3x the amount of soil (in your case about 10 gallons).

Honestly looks like a real bad nute burn + Mg deficiency.

Here is a bunch of references

http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm

 

[obese catfish]

before use my water sits for 24hrs and ranges from 6.7-6.4 (drops to 6.4 after sitting a few days)
runnoff Ph has stayed 6.5 since it was transplanted about 20 days after sprouting

 

[obese catfish]

can anyone tell what deficency or if its burn? any other thoughts?

 

[obese catfish]

even after a good flushing and two more waterings of straight h20 after they did'nt show improvment (2 weeks ago)
please guys?

 

[hazy]

It looks like a calcium def. Prolly others too. The pics kinda small to tell though, but mag and zinc maybe. Check the pH of your runoff. You might find that the pH is low from nute concentrations in the soil causing lockouts.

 

[B.C.]

The micro nutes are outta whack, and it's burn em. I think ya over did it with the kelp. Using molassas with kelp allows the plant to absorb more of the micro nutes in the kelp, so it's not hard ta get ahead of yer self.... Keep in mind Happy frog is a -balanced- soil on it's own, so by adding much of anything else it's gonna through off that balance, causing problems.

I can't help but think too much cal may be playing a role here as well. That soil comes well limed from the factory, ( it also has oyster shell in it too, I think? ) Then the bone meal has cal in it as well. So you can see there's a lot of calcium in there. Eveything needs ta be in balance or it blocks the uptake and or the use of other nutes, which set off a chain reaction of deficiencies. Then it's hard to tell what the hell started it to begin with. lol


Anyhoo, if you have very long to go in flower you might try feeding them a balanced for flower ( NPK ) nute. If ya don't have long to go, don't give em nothin but water. No more microblast or kelp though. I don't think they will bounce back to much at this point, but maybe they'll last long enough to finish for ya. If ya have any questions, hollar, Ill try to answer them. Good luck! BC

 

[maryj315]

Good stuff B.C. you know how to put a post together looks like Hazy was also on the same track

Mj

 

[obese catfish]

thnks guys for help, I will cut tomorrow or day after and try to revege and place outdoors.
one other problem:
the clayxs have swollen/matured but instead of really filling in around eachother they started to stack in little clayx towers/foxtails, and this is afghan kush. what is that a sign of again? it drastically reduced the bud density
atleast I know for my micro setup to take it easier with the microblast and maxicrop.. barneys bluecheese is waiting to go in- can't decide if i want to take cuts first though its only 10 inches tall I'd have to take what are practically branches right now is that still ok? theres three internodes branching 2 branches a piece I figure I would take the bottom 4?....

 

[B.C.]

Sorry I'm slow gettin back to ya Catfish. I can't really say fersure what caused the foxtailing. I'd bet the way it fed has somethin ta do with it though, enviroment may play a role as well.

Sounds like yer short on cloning material. You could go ahead and put it in flower, and take clones after it stretches. Doin it that way would give ya clones and still leave enough on the plant to make it worth while. It doesn't hurt anything to take cuts from flowering plants. The clones do take alil time to revert back to veg stage, but it will work.

Another solution maybe to start LST the plant now, while it's still in veg. Within a week er two, yul have plenty of material ta clone from. A shot of grow nutes would help this along.

Also, while I'm thinking about it. You might wanna read what's in microblast, chances are it has many of the same things the kelp has in it. So, it may be a good idea ta use one er the other, but not both, and take it easy with it.

Hope this has helped some, good luck! BC

 

[obese catfish]

thanks b.c
I still can't figure out what caused foxtailing, maybe later. I did harvest it though, the portion I havn't already smoked with no cure is drying haha..
meanwhile I've taken clones already instead of waiting till flowering, they've grown enough since I asked and I decided I would anyways.
i retardedly added light nute solution to the clones as very tops were yellowing, hopefully it won't kill them and I've closed up the rockwool holes better around stem.
I plan to get in at least 3 more sets of clones from each mom- once these girls go outside they should exxplode in their blazeone's mix holes, I love the suns intensity just can't match it
Once everything gets all stabilized and healthy it may be worth getting some pics up for a groshow, shooting for some monsters this season