Help needed asap!!!!

[Dr.Gonzo08]

Cps had opened a case on me, due to my step-son's father.(hes racist)
So a neighbor was watching my girls for about 3 weeks.
when they left me they where growing super vigorously.
when i got them back they where really bad.
i dont know what was wrong with them, so i checked the ph of the soil runoff and it was around 7.
i flushed them. transplanted some. and flushed again.
started feeding gh 3 part flora nutes to some and
Dr.Hornbys iguana juice grow and bloom mixed at a low strength to others.

not as bad anymore(showing some growth), but something is still wrong....

the first pics are of my worst two.
they are in the same container, showing the same problems:
-the leaves turn yellowish brown and then crunch up.
-the leaf tips point up ward and then die
-new growth leaf tips are blackish brown and crumble if touched.
-all growth has slowed, and only the roots and leaves at the nodes show
any sign of growth.

the last pic is of a plant i just threw in a dwc bucket. it is showing much more improvement than any of the others, but like them too, some thing is still wrong.
-the very bottom set of leaves just wilted and died.
-yellowing and dieing of the leaf tips is here as well.
-the ph of the nutes shoots up everyday. (even if i use phdown)
-the edges are crisping, and the serated parts of the leaf are mutilating
themselves a bit.
-all the leaves droop a lil, they are still up they just look like they point
downwards some.

On both plants the problems start at the bottom of the plants and are
working there way up. Both the strains im growing, i have been for the past year. The other crops were hardy eaters, and i never had these prob. idk what he did to them but is seriously affecting my outcome. They should of been flowering by now.

I really dont know what is wrong with them but i need some help asap.
It would be greatly appreciated.

 

[CptCannabis]

Honestly iv looked over your pics and id have to say your crop is going to be fine there is no serious damage visible. I would recommend keeping a close eye on the PH and always check for unwanted visitors (mites, mold, etc ) In that last photo I noticed one leave that was completely shriveled you can forget about that one and just snip it off. As far as the yellow tips curling and becoming yellow sounds like you may be having some nutrient burn. Hope i was of some help.

 

[Dr.Gonzo08]

Thanks Cpt.
but im sure that its not going to be fine till i find out what the prob is.
now my outdoor plant is showing the same thing.
they have all got it, even the new batch of seedlings, and it is getting worse.
it seems like lock out.
but i guess time will tell all.
1!

 

[Citizen024]

This looks like a problem I had in coco. K build up. I did it by adding potassium silica (Pro-Silicate) and using it as ph up in combo with GH which has a lot of K to begin with. Plus coco's K release. The first time it F***ered me up bad and thought it was a fungus and misdiagnosed (thought it was fusarium) and watched my garden slowly crumble and barely yeild. I kept feeding the same, and in dry'ish coco. All bad.

Second time more recently I about fainted when it hit- thought the fungal death had found me again 10 years later. Had some help from someone who the same creeping death happened to before, he went through the exact same "I got fusarium". Fusarium for the record is a death sentence to your plants, and probably your room. But it's rare to get it indoors. So after much investigation it was revealed to be the K problem.

His suggestion was to cut clones, cause if it is built up enough it has made your medium poison, and it is not coming out fast enough for a recovery. BUT- if it isn't too built up, I am living proof you CAN break the K toxicity.


First off proper diagnosis is KEY: Do the drying up leave happen pretty quick (1-2 days) and do they kinda break right off where they meet the stem if you touch em? Do the dryed bits look kinda like there is spores on em?

If so you got a K problem. Even if you don't a lot of this advice would be the same for any toxicity. Your plants look really green and well fed, so I would lean towards excess over lack. Unless during the 3 weeks they got starved. But I doubt you would be here as that is pretty straight forward to correct. I bet your friend mixed lots of GH Grow in at some point (or didn't get run offs at watering, or something happened to build it up in the soil) or your using too much.

Mine happened and my ppm never had gone over 550 is a recirc system, never had any over feed occur. It was the ratio of fert, and build up in the medium.

Now then regardless: it sounds like there is something toxic your using if all of them have it. Might look into how much fert, and if your using the right ratios. GH Grow has lots of K.

To fix it: flush flush. Get a flushing agent: GH Flora Kleen is cheap (5ml/gal). Run tons of water for a week. Even if your run off is coming out good you have built up a toxic environment in your medium (soil). Problem with soil is two foldL it doesn't like getting soaked, you risk root rot and stress from overwatering. And it holds onto nutrients till it is ready to give them up. Your super friendly soil buffer can backfire on you.

Now the last complex bit: as you try to break down the toxicity, guess what? It can lock out other nutrients, and cause def to occur. AND if you just flush then keep feeding with your normal nutrients . . . guess what? Your adding back more K and continuing the toxicity.

Your only way out is to break the bitch. Flush like mad. No nutrients for a bit. Use low K formulations when you do go back to feeding (hard to do with GH- use lots of micro and bloom, very little grow). I used Cannazyme and Vermi-T during the week of flush because I believed they would help break the lock, restore medium/roots, and make whatever is around available to be eaten. The plant is feeding, so sooner or later the levels will balance. Once you see leaf die of stop, your out. Then restart your fert- with low K.



I used Pure Blend Pro Grow to help me back into health. Low in K, anything coco friendly should be.

 

[DocLeaf]

They are over-fed!!

The combination of re-potting into fresh soil and Dr Hornby has introduced too much Nitrogen into the root system!

Feed with water only for a few weeks until growth recovers.

Dr Hornby Iguana Juice (grow n bloom) are VERY strong organic ferts!!!

Hope this helps

 

[Mr.Hades]

^^ I was thinking the same thing.

Plants will tell you when they are hungry, no need to constantly feed unless in very low dosages. It does more harm than good. But plants need just plain water sometimes.

Also maybe even try using a lighter mix with a tad bit more perlite. It definately wouldnt hurt. But otherwise they look decent. ^_^

 

[brownstormy]

they're probably stressed from being moved around so much and it's possible your babysitter added crap or bad water locking up or locking out nutrients.
i'd flush them and keep on a nothing but water diet until they start asking for nourishment.
it's possible they just missed you too