help my babies please

[Guest]

my plants have been vegging for about 2 weeks now under 3 clfs, my bottom leaves started to darken in the middle and then turned yellow. Now the leaved are dry and flaking apart. also im getting small yellow spots on some top leaves. Is this a heat problem? Too much nute? not enought? im using 1/2 teaspoon gh flora veg per gallon with a ph of about 6-6.5 in promix. I feed every three days of so. How can i test my soil ph with a test strip?

 

[Guest]

i tested my soil run off around the high 5.0 area. I think its a heat issue the plants are close to the bulbs. I have worm castings in my promix im going to just give them plain water for a while and adjust the light situation and see what happens.

 

[100outof100]

Im sure no1 will really be able to help you without pic's. I sure cant ><

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Sounds like a phosphorous and magnesium and micro nutrient deficiency...
Runoff should be 5.5
Using only gh flora veg? the green part of the 3 part? if so at the rate you gave then the ppms you're feeding are 15-3-37-4 of N-P-K-Mg and absolutely no micronutrients.

 

[Guest]

Sounds like a phosphorous and magnesium and micro nutrient deficiency...
Runoff should be 5.5
Using only gh flora veg? the green part of the 3 part? if so at the rate you gave then the ppms you're feeding are 15-3-37-4 of N-P-K-Mg and absolutely no micronutrients.

i thought it was a 2part system? Sorry im a newb, how can i add micos?

 

[Guest]

IM sorry, no Im not using the three part system im using the 2 part flora nova series grow and then bloom

 

[VanGrow]

i would think the ph in promix is too low.....your putting in 6.5 and getting 5.7 or 5.8 ...you think...maybye its 5.4....i use promix....runoff always comes out mid 6....thats where it should always be...it is a professional grade soiless..doesnt sway on ph much unless your really driving it high or low ......but more than likely "your" driving the ph down....for instance if your not using all the parts of your nutes or overfeeding or overwatering....roots and plants will suffer...nutes will buildup in the promix.....lockout begins....ph becomes acidic....even in the most enriched and balanced promix or soil...cold also affects promix rather easy when on the acidic side......or if you use ph down....i find if its acid that can build up especially after a few months....i use earth juice PH and dont have that prob anymore...because your only in 2 weeks so i guesss the promix has been used in the pot just as long.....so then your ph IS to low....and it moved down fast ...to where the additives that last for a couple of months to balance ph arent able to ADJUST the ph anymore.....your EC may be real high also...a ph meter with tds and ec would stand to be a good investment....you have no idea other than a vauge ph reading of whats going on with your runoff.....and thats where the problem lies according to the details given....try and post pics and or .....................More details....
Hope this helps
VanGrow

 

[VanGrow]

oh your using floranova..........i tried it on some plants and its a strong nute....your going with no ppm meter or ec meter...hmmm.....am leaning tword over nute....did u grow from seed?

 

[Guest]

i would think the ph in promix is too high.....your putting in 6.5 and getting 5.7 or 5.8 ...you think...maybye its 5.4....i use promix....runoff always comes out mid 6....thats where it should always be...it is a professional grade soiless..doesnt sway on ph much unless your really driving it high or low ......but more than likely "your" driving the ph down....for instance if your not using all the parts of your nutes or overfeeding or overwatering....roots and plants will suffer...nutes will buildup in the promix.....lockout begins....ph becomes acidic....even in the most enriched and balanced promix or soil...cold also affects promix rather easy when on the acidic side......or if you use ph down....i find if its acid that can build up especially after a few months....i use earth juice PH and dont have that prob anymore...because your only in 2 weeks so i guesss the promix has been used in the pot just as long.....so then your ph IS to low....and it moved down fast ...to where the additives that last for a couple of months to balance ph arent able to ADJUST the ph anymore.....your EC may be real high also...a ph meter with tds and ec would stand to be a good investment....you have no idea other than a vauge ph reading of whats going on with your runoff.....and thats where the problem lies according to the details given....try and post pics and or .....................More details....
Hope this helps
VanGrow

thank you for your intelligent insight, you are right my ph readings suck. Can you reccommend a hand held ph ppm meeter or a site to order from? In the meantime I am going to take them out of the 160z cups and into there 6" pot perminant home and remix my promix and worm castings. Then just feed with water until my meter comes. Does that sound like a good idea? thankfully only one plant is having this sever the others look like they are on there way.

 

[Guest]

other thing i can guess is that i watered from the top and got the leaves wet with my feed and threw them under the bulb to fast causing some issues. However the growth is slow and stunted.

 

[VanGrow]

if your gonna transplant do it once and do it right.....you need to get some perilite....it will help eliminate the Potential to overwater......even promix needs it when your a new grower who wants to water and water and feed and feed....you might have fried those leaves with the light but as for the plant being stunted its probably due to the ph....in 2 weeks i would feed my plants 3 times....if they are eating... id water 7 times total.....new clones and or new seedlings n my opinion based on my experience should not be pushed to hard with nutes....im assuming you followed the directions for the amount of nutes to add to water.....well unless its 1/2 or less ....you used to much....again floronova ....i think it is good....i have a bottle ...dont use it much but....it is Strong....to strong for a newbie to eye it.....and it pulls ph down...if the plant isnt growing fast ...and sucking up nutes....ie cold...no ventilation...overwatered...you will have acidic ph ...and again a high ec..this is most likely causing your multiple defs.....i would use ph 7.0 water....get a ph tds ec meter....i have a hanna...i see others i like ....try DH HYDRO or Worms way....good prices ...good selection... if someone knows somewhere better chime in....dont get it from ebay...if its not accurate who ya gonna bitch too....

 

[VanGrow]

Drill extra holes in any new pots ......i add 2 rings of 5 holes around the lower portion on the pot and a few in the bottom.....air....the need air.....moisten some promix on the side mix it...add some worm shit and a good amount like 20-30% perilite...transplant without soaking them in the new pots...use the moisten promix mix youv made...and tuck it in nice but dont pack it.....make sure soil makes contact with roots .....let it dry until they are gonna wilt if you dont know what dry is.....water that bone dry promix and let a little run off....a few cups.....then check the ec and ppm and ph of that last bit of runoff...go from there

 

[Dalton]

I bought a ppm meter and use floranova. My meter reads exactly what it says on the bottle. 150ppm is 1/4 teaspoon 300 ppm is half a teaspoon and so on and so forth. I just follow the bottle and don't go over 1000ppm. The numbers seem low but they are calculated @.5. Good Luck man. follow everyones directions and drop your nutes too
1/4 teaspoon

 

[Guest]

i grew from seed and i only fed 2x i belive and i used half of the dose of bottle amount and also i flushed once i noticed. I just did a full flush on my sickest one so i hope to see some improvement.

 

[VanGrow]

i grew from seed and i only fed 2x i belive and i used half of the dose of bottle amount and also i flushed once i noticed. I just did a full flush on my sickest one so i hope to see some improvement.

so the seedlings are 2 weeks old..........if you nuted to much or 2 early they are locked......the worm castings add nutes too...and i feel would be more than enough to bring up seeds for 2 weeks with no feeding.....when the plants are rockin you can feed them like the bottle says very true.....until then those nutes are just sittin in that soil......i cant stress enough that ovewatering will stunt seedlings..roots....veggin or flowering plants.....and create nute defs.....roots never get a chance to grow...when they are dry they go looking for water....i used promix for years and have had every problem....

 

[Guest]

other then promix what do you suggest other then hydro?

 

[Guest]

just ordered a milwauke three way for under 150.00 wish me luck

 

[VanGrow]

thats a good meter.....stay with promix ...i love it.......just use the tester.....
good luck