Help mites

[Moonlight dank]

The photos above look like a mixture of heat stress and neut burn with possible infestation /ph deficiency , also if you are using a lot of pesticides that could be landing on your top soil and then when you water it .you could end up feeding the plant pesticides causing excess burning from the inside out,if you buy a bad soil they often come crawling with life store brought bulk compost I avoid at all costs for this reason ,coco is a cleaner alternative, I would put them on healthy feed nothing to strong ,rizotonic a and b (base neuts )and a trace mineral mix to help revive them , remember with neuts sometimes less is more under certain circumstances ,switch to Co Co if using low grade soils,the only pesticides product I know for a fact works is called Dr schimel comes in a little silver bottle that stuff works fact one time ap.a good clean of the whole room and everything in it .once cleaned everything clean equipment room etc use Dr schimel to spray all equip and room leave for an hour then wash all insecticide from pots trays etc so no uptake ,this is if starting from scratch ,for the ones in the photos increase airflow ,bulb quality osram Phillips etc ,check ph . switch to cleanest availble growing medium coco ,use a revive type feeding schedule to help bring them back ,give the pesticides a rest for a few days wile revive them see if that helps ,if not use Dr schimel spray after a week of nursing them and increasing general life quality in order to help the immune system strenthen ,being carful to spray everywhere under leaves on top of leaves stems etc but not on top of soil as it ends up going into your plant wich you do not want obviously spray during lights out to avoid burn,if you can't get rid it could be something your doing bringing them in threw bad soil quality for example back track and go over your routine eliminating all possibilities of somthing your doing to bring them in .doing that increasing life quality, revive them ,clean up .check ph and try using the Dr schimel carefully after a break while you revive them is about all I can come up with hope this helps

 

[Moonlight dank]

Also try lSt method to help strenthen the core of new plants in future, a strong plant is a more resilient plant when it comes to pests and deficiencys using pestacides heat stress etc, this is done buy toppping early and tying down during veg .the plants base and branches stems etc double in thickness and strengh practicly overnight to support the strain . helping cope with most things in general making it stronger and more resilient and leeds to a better yield threw spreading the plant .good look

 

[deadhead77]

Yeah I mean I'm using pro mix , phing to 6.3, temps don't go above 78 I have a controller for that and I only feed it compost teas, from microbe mans recipe. I have only fed it a few times with GO nutes at 1/4 - 1/2 strength . But the Miticide residue on soil might b something

 

[deadhead77]

Interesting on the dr schimel , I have yet to hear of that product and will absolutely check it out . Good advise man thank you. I do know where they came from. It was a caretakers cuttings that had them. I asked them what they have used on them so I could treat them with proper Miticide but they denied they had any so I could never get to the bottom of what miticides they already used on them . I was really needing cuttings at the time. Now I can't eradicate them...I've run out of rooms in my house. I find it interesting that ultimate wash worked better that these professional miticides.

 

[deadhead77]

 

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[deadhead77]

This is the first time I've posted anything like this on the Internet and I got to say it is pretty exposing, not very like me but I really need the help

 

[Moonlight dank]

Im new to forums also ,but nice to be able to give advice from expierence to people of common interest to help out ,Www.grow-world.Co.UK ,for Dr schimmel spider mites terminator I know it's a Dutch product and UK legal and it works that's about it ,you Deffo have an infestation as you can see the eggs in last pic look same as the ones I've killed in the past using schimell with no repeat problems ,try giving them revive nutes ,tie them to down to side of the pot to strengthen core also ad a bit more dual spec light -they just look like they need waking up then treating after a week of reviving when they look upto it, no longer than a weeks time tho so it doesn't get out of hand, doesn't sound like it's your nutes ph or airflow either .you may just need something potent to clean your plants ,house ,equip etc

 

[Moonlight dank]

Also it doesn't look like your plants like what their being fed,I understand the use of the tea mixes keeping it natural etc but if your plants don't like it wich is a very real possibility judging there colour and general apperence etc ,I always use canna range .per 20 litres 6.2 ph water I use Co Co a and b 30-60ml rizotonic 50 ml and 20 ml mono trace mix during veg and as a general base neutral and add potassium phoss products pk boost etc during flower ,and always have the same explosive results,I know people feel strongly about natural gardening but if your plants don't take to the recipes well ,you may have better luck with something more concentrated to help flourish canna also do eveything in bio range wich is still probably a lot more concentrated wich your plants may want to help wake them up if you feel strong about natural recipes etc I would suggest canna bio range and a 3 week flush to properly drain ,returning it to a more natural state

 

[deadhead77]

Ok thanks i can see everything you are talking about , I may just feed straight nutes then. You said you were able to see eggs in the last photo? Could you somehow point out where so I can see them because I can't right now. Does anyone know from the damage in the photos what type of mites these are?

 

[Moonlight dank]

I will try to put up a couple of images of my last late veg early flower using that range,also just for info I use average 3 x 600 watt dual spec and hps lights per 8-10 plants ,that plus good nutes ,air flow,and topping plus lst technique tends to jump start things ,good luck keep me posted

 

[deadhead77]

Cool sounds good , if these would just stop getting stunted from problems and get big enough I got 3k for them

 

[Moonlight dank]

In regards to the eggs ,the main leaf in the last photo on the middle finger about half way down has little light green speckle clusters ,like dots probably a bit bumpy to touch ,they are your eggs /larvae ,there is no way of telling the exact specimen in my eyes but 80 percent of the time they are sum variation of spidermite ,knat etc ,the shimmel stuff kills eggs insects anything that breathes air probably, it has always worked for me ,everytime when used at nite without damage

 

[Moonlight dank]

I'd get them under the 3 k now with a good distance between canopy and light like 2 feet away! to wake them up and start them growing they cant say no .just stay on top of the nutes and don't let them dry out ,wake them up then treat them ,good luck

 

[deadhead77]

Hmm, good advise thank you moonlight dank

 

[deadhead77]

Anyone else I'm really open to people's opinions about my grow problems, I would be extremely happy if every person from this site responded. This is very important to me and I really want success with this.

 

[Capitan Crunch]

The advice you received already, is on point. IMO, only change one or two things at a time if you are not sure of the source of your problem.

 

[deadhead77]

Oh ok that dr schimmel is plant vitality I believe . The two products I have heard always heard about that really work is avid and plant vitality.

 

[deadhead77]

Looks like dr. Schimmel is a mix of avid and flagship together in a bottle

 

[Abby Normal]

Eebbnflow- I don't know why but the second part of your post annoys me. Yes dude I read the thread I posted in about broad mites. And no they are not tricromes, it insults me because I would have loved to even get to the point of flowering but for a year now I can't even get plants to that stage until now and it has taken a lot of money and effort. I thought of myself as a good grower but damn these bugs are kicking my ass. I got the most awesome plant in front of me with great equipment and I can't make a harvest to save my life

You've been having this issue for a year? You may not like the answer I'm going to give you but it's quite simple, shut down your grow, clear out all your plants, and disinfect your grow area. Wait a month or two then restart fresh. The more you keep trying to save what you have, the deeper the hole you keep digging for yourself, financially and emotionally.

Rule #1 - Never take in cuttings or plants without putting them in quarantine first.

If you can't bring yourself to start fresh, the only other suggestion I have is to use Safer Brand 5118 Insect Killing Soap (find it on Amazon). Be sure to apply it to the bottom of the leaf, that's where the eggs are, not on the top. This should allow you to at least get to flower and harvest at which time you can restart fresh.