Help me identify this Humboldt strain

[Vaguerant]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read this thread.

I was the proud receipient of several cuts of a strain that originates from Humboldt CA.

My brother got some seeds from a friend who made a trip out west to visit family in Cali...I got the cuts off my bro. All I know is that the dude that grows it has supposedly been working on this strain for 30 years. I was told (you know how second hand info is), that he plants them in supersoil in kiddie pools, and that each plant yields between 3-5 elbows outdoors. Also, we were told that 98 or 99 out of every 100 seeds would be female. The friend of my bro says they produce buds big enough to cradle in your arms like a baby. The plants grown from seed branch like crazy, and the clones do too, if you let them veg any time at all.


My brother planted about 20 seeds outdoors, and 19 of them were female. There seems to be two phenos; the only noticable difference between them is one is short, the other tall. I got cuts off of one of the shorter plants.
I'm flowering them under 4x40W shoplight tubes (I did keep a mother), and I'm surprised at the amount they're thickening up at only 25 days into flower in small pots and under flouro's.

The smell is hard to describe; it's a somewhat unpleasant (think rotten, or dirty sock) odor, with fruity, earthy undertones, and an overall heavy chemical smell. Anyway, here's a couple of pics we took tonight. Does this ring any bells with anyone?

 

[Guest]

Plant looks nice, but I don't know if I'd ever buy a $40,000 suv, let alone crash it..
either way..looks VERY indica, and assuming it's been around for 30 years..probably afghani(or maybe kush, i guess). Don't know that she would grow to produce 5 lbs, or that I'd brag to people about how much money I'm making on my grow..but to each his own.

Good luck with that girl, and I'm sure you'll be happy with her...just don't lose the cut

 

[Vaguerant]

looks VERY indica, and assuming it's been around for 30 years..probably afghani(or maybe kush, i guess).

That's the thing, it does look very indica. The leaves are very wide, but the larger pheno of this plant grows to over 7+ft tall, and branches just like a sativa. The shorter pheno will grow to 5-6 feet tall. It's a strange plant and I'm looking forward to trying it out.

As far as the other stuff about the SUV's and the monetary value of the grow, all that's second hand from a relative of the guy. I went back and edited that stuff out. Anyway, thanks for the response.

 

[Guest]

Ah..I'd definitely imagine that it's been crossed, if that's the case(Which I'm sure you know..but it looked so pure indice..it made me wonder). Guess all I can do is just sit back and wait for the final product. Still say there's plenty of afghani/kush in it..I'd say crossed with skunk, but if it's been grown for 30 years..maybe not(which is weird..a plant that's been worked with for so long showing 2 distinct phenos?).

 

[motaco]

bad news. unless they told you the name those hill folk are hell for not naming a damn thing.

its just grass or pot. drives me nuts because I get weed from there all the time and I'll ask my friends for another bag of the same stuff and it ends up in the same useless conversation that goes nowhere. no name so it can't easily be identified or described.

 

[Vaguerant]

Hi motaco.

Yeah, that's kinda what I was afraid of hearing. And you called it right..."hill folk". My bro's friend described them as "hillbillies". lol. Anyway, thanks for posting.

 

[Raco]

Pine Tar Kush??

 

[motaco]

if it helps any... you say its 30 yrs old?

the VERY first indicas to show up came back with someone from the middle east. I foget which specific country but I think it was either afghanistan or pakistan ( I could be wrong about either its been a long time since I had a conversation with folks who were there for it) and came back to norcal and gave it out. it was super exotic back then. nobody had ever seen indicas. totally different stone, growth patterns, finish in 1/3 of the time of sativas. So these seeds got spread around immediately. It was known as "x plant" and is the indica base along side mexican and asian sativas for alot of old school plants. But it was just a couple years later that seeds from all over that were indica showed up. morroccan, kush, etc etc. so its really not much help. most of them just ended up being called wide leaves and you had the same problem of today.

Its really a shame because half of the preservation of genes movement was crushed by opposing forces. american politics. but an equal portion was eaten out from the inside with strains being lost because nobody thought to name them and keep them pure. There was nothing to keep pure, because it didn't even have a name.

I'm just greatful some of them named it after region. those were about all that got saved.

lol. even if there are 10+ distinctly different mexican sativas known as oaxaca just because they are from there. I've had 4 personally, I've seen at least 4 other distinctly different oaxacas on forums, and god only knows how many others are kept by personal growers.

 

[nukn futz]

My bro's friend described them as "hillbillies". lol.

whats wrong with hillbillies, obviously we know what we`re doing

 

[Orangelazaris]

indica that grows over 6 feet with long branches??

Do a search for valvilov. The most awsome thread ever will come up that is about 6? pages of some hardocre fact and speculation about pre soviet central asian indica/sativas.

sounds like you have what appears to be at least in some form a heavy duty throw back ghani like deep chunk or the likes.


Best,

OL

 

[Vaguerant]

Hello, and thanks for the info gmb, and motaco. And yeah, that is a great thread Orangelazaris. I had trouble finding it because the spelling should be "vavilov".

It does sound like this might be something like that...I don't know. I just hope it smokes as good as it looks and smells. My brother took the pics I posted earlier with his camera, but I tried some closeups last night with mine. The camera sucks (a webcam), but I think I was still able to show the frost. These things are like rock candy on a stick.
















Anyway, thanks to all, and I'll probably update this thread at harvest, and then with a smoke report after a dry and a cure.

 

[Chili_berkster]

sure looks alot like this clone of dwarf cush. We call it DC and its some fantastic herb. Maybe they are related. But this dwarf wont get very big and the yields are small. But the buds are dense as rocks.