Help!G13-Diesel and SB IBL in distress!

[Piffington]

Hey how's it going everybody? Seems like I'm in need of serious help. Oh I remember when everything was green and luscious then I put my 400w hps in my closet and thinking everything would be fine with just one fan ( it always was before but i guess since that was during the winter it makes a difference now during the summer) and killed have of my babies with heat built up in my closet. well my g13-diesel survived and only had a couple crispy leaves on the top so i topped it and it contunued to grow and my sb ibl babies were also unaffected by the heat as they were under my floro tubes in the far corner, but since then it seem like they have gotten sick and I have no clue what it could be since the ph of my g13d is 6.5 and I only feed it once every 3 waterings so it could not be nuteburn and my sb ibls's have to same symptoms my g13d has and they haven't gotten a single drop of nutes so I figured it was bugs or mold and neemed them only to get them worse. Please help me someone I can't lose these I like many others need some diesel in my life and I'm very sorry over these crappy pics. first is the g13d then sd ibl

 

[sproutco]

Start by lowering your ph to 5.8 by adjusting your nutrient solution to that. You should check your nutrient solution to make sure that it contains nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, and molybdenum. You should feed dilute nutrients at every watering to provide constant nutrition rather than a jerk of something strong. Check these things and see what happens.

 

[Piffington]

Hey sproutco thanks for the reply but 5.8? isn't that a little low for soil? I use grow big, liquid karma at a tsp/gal on the g13 d on feeding days and there's dolomite lime mixed in with the ocean forest soil so I rarely add any epsom salts unless I feel it's necessary. I also wanted to know if I should cut off any of these infected leaves because it seems like they're spreading. I wish I had a better camera these pics just don't show any detail whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Growdoc]

Soil should be from 5.8-6.3PH... but that not ur biggest problem, you have no airflow! you need some real ventilation, minimum an intake with a 265 cfm have it come from the bottom of the closet...

if you would like more advice then please just ask...

Growdoc

 

[Buffoonman]

It looks like nute burn to me. I used Miracle grow soil on one of my grows and added no nutes there was that much fertiliser already in the soil though it burned the leaves . They looked a lot like your pictures. Even feeding once every three waterings nutes can build up in the soil when there not being used. All I can suggest is check your ph and if this is correct just keep giving them plain water and see if they improve as they get bigger.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

good advise given here, already...
The things I see are the heat/ventalation issue, and the PH issue...
Also the advise to skip feeding for a bit is good... Also how much dolomite is in the soil? the G13-D can get a bit Mg hungry, and just how high are the temps? Also What is your watering schedule? that last pic looks like it could be overwatered, and a bit much nitrogen.

 

[sproutco]

That is the answer. Your using pre-enriched soil. You did not state that at the beginning. Now, you are left guessing as to how many nutrients are in the soil (or not in there). Liquid feeding on top of alot of available nutrients already in the soil=burned leaves.

 

[Buffoonman]

I've heard good things about plagrons Royalty mix soil. I'm using it on my current grow. Exellent results so far. Intent to just water for the whole grow. Keeping it simple seems to be producing best results for me. Heres another G13-Diesel picture.

 

[Piffington]

Thanks Everybody!

Thanks Everybody!

Hey, thanks for all the help guys.

Growdoc, yea I guess you’re right. I’ll have to get right on it with the air ventilation. It’ll certainly pay off and the plants will love the fresh air. Thanks doc.

Buffonman, I’ll just feed them plain water for a while and hope they look better soon. Should I just water with plain water or ph’d water since I ordered some ph down just in case. This G13-Diesel looked G13 dominant when it first started off but now it seems like its going to be the 50/50 pheno. Crossing my fingers it’s a gal. Good luck on yours BM .

Grat3fulh3ad, Hey! Thanks for stopping by I love your seeds. So the G13-D loves its’ Mg , well I added about 2 tbsp per gal of the dol. lime you think that will suffice or maybe give em’ some epsom salts if I see some def. symptoms. Well they’re under 149w of cfls as of right now so the temps don’t get too bad, I waiting on my cooltube and going to try and get some better airflow in there so I can bring the HPS back in there. As for my watering schedule I really just go by the weight of the pots (and cups for the seedlings) but the perlite really helps with the drainage. I must’ve just watered before I took that pic. I started some Casey Jones which are looking good and pretty much growing themselves; any tips on them that I should know about? I know they’re going to stretch a lot in flower so do you think they’ll respond well to topping like the G13-D does? Thanks again GH.

sproutco, yea the ocean forest should have enough nutes for a couple weeks but since it’s preused from a previous grow I expected the nutes in it to be depleted guess I was wrong but I’ll just water them until they perk up. Thanks for your help.

More lousy pics until I get a better camera this time around it’s h3ad’s Casey Jones’(may I say what an intriguing cross can’t wait to try it out )

 

[sproutco]

If your soil was from another grow then there should be few nutrients left in it. Maybe your liquid feed was too strong. Check everything we have discussed in this thread and good luck.

 

[Buffoonman]

Hi Piffington. My plants seem to be doing the same as yours. They all looked very Indica dominant to start but now they seem to be going more 50/50. Which is all the better as they should have a better aroma and taste. Good luck with your grow.
One more thing to add Mg I generally use epsom salts not sure about using lime.

 

[Guest]

any other questions? how they look now?

any other questions? how they look now?

cant wait to see yer casey jones done, piffington (guaranteed 'piff' :wink

@Buffoonman and ANYONE and EVERYONE else out there,
stop classifying plants as indica or sativa by the width of the blades/fingers.
this is not always indicative of a plants background,
and CAN/DOES change over the course of the plants lifetime!!

pictured below~unknown central american sativa. note this brolic malez extremely wide fingers

looks like a pure ghani dont it nope. 100% Sativa, albeit acclimated
to outdoor conditions on the northern eastern seaboard of the untied states
over the past few generations. its adapting. evolution, if you will.
i believe the correct botanical terminology for this sort of thing would be genetic drift
..anyway hope ya folks understand my point.

Cannabis is a very 'adaptable' plant, if you know how to manipulate to your advantage.
if not, it will turn on you in a not-so-nice way,
and there is no coming back from a genetically fucked line like that
save for goin back to vintage seed stock seed (if any exists!)

be well, all
G R O W H A R D