Helios 12 light controller 8/2 50 amps??

[Hookah79]

I have a Helios 12 light controller that i will be installing,the little diagram that came with the box calls for 8/2 single phase,with a 50 amp breaker.That makes no sense,i have a Helios 7 that i used a 6/3 with 50 amp breaker.AFAIK 8 gauge wire works with 40 amp breaker on most instances correct??

Why wouldn't Titan just run the same specs as the Helios 7(2 hots and a neutral) vs the Helios 12 with only 2 hots???They both run 8 lights.....

 

[krunchbubble]

I have a Helios 12 light controller that i will be installing,the little diagram that came with the box calls for 8/2 single phase,with a 50 amp breaker.That makes no sense,i have a Helios 7 that i used a 6/3 with 50 amp breaker.AFAIK 8 gauge wire works with 40 amp breaker on most instances correct??

Why wouldn't Titan just run the same specs as the Helios 7(2 hots and a neutral) vs the Helios 12 with only 2 hots???They both run 8 lights.....

Says 8/2 in the instructions...

"Still having problems with your Helios® 12? Please contact our Technical Service
Representative at 888-808-4826 to assist you further"

 

[Hookah79]

Says 8/2 in the instructions...

"Still having problems with your Helios® 12? Please contact our Technical Service
Representative at 888-808-4826 to assist you further"

Thanks for stating the obvious Sherlock....I did say the instructions says 8/2 no???

I've called that number listed for Helios before, but wasn't impressed,thus me posting this question here...

 

[mowood3479]

If u have the 6/2 already then use it.. It's not going to hurt anything to have a heavier gauge wire..

 

[hvac guy]

Those style of lighting controllers are not NEC or CEC compliant. Get an electrician to build you a small 8 circuit loadcenter with breakers and a two pole 50A or 60A contactor. Easy to build something that is CEC/NEC compliant and not have any safety issues.

 

[Stevie51]

Use of NM-B type cable in the U.S. does have some restrictions imposed by the NEC to limit it use to 60C ampacity, therefore I feel that Titan Controls are in error to recommend 8/2 cable on a 50 amp breaker.

 

[Hookah79]

Use of NM-B type cable in the U.S. does have some restrictions imposed by the NEC to limit it use to 60C ampacity, therefore I feel that Titan Controls are in error to recommend 8/2 cable on a 50 amp breaker.

That's what i suspected.

I'll probably have a 6-2 nm ran to it like Mowood suggested and just use it to light up a 4k set up since i was going to get one anyways.

Just odd why they went this route....

 

[Hookah79]

Those style of lighting controllers are not NEC or CEC compliant. Get an electrician to build you a small 8 circuit loadcenter with breakers and a two pole 50A or 60A contactor. Easy to build something that is CEC/NEC compliant and not have any safety issues.

I hear you,but electricians charge an arm and a leg when they find out you're growing,and still take short cuts.Years ago i had an electrician do some work at a previous location, and he hacked the job(mixing 3 different circuit breakers in one panel,wrong ground size inside,using aluminum wiring for 50 amp outlets with no anti oxidant,nicked/cut aluminum strands).Had him come back and install the breakers that match the panel,and fix the grounding wire.I ended up ripping out all the aluminum and replacing them with copper.

 

[Stevie51]

That's what i suspected.

I'll probably have a 6-2 nm ran to it like Mowood suggested and just use it to light up a 4k set up since i was going to get one anyways.

Just odd why they went this route....

What I find is really odd is that controllers like the one you mention do not properly protect 15A cords & devices connected to them. I even noticed that none of the brand names manufacturers of lighting controllers (those rated for 50 amps or less) sold in the United States are even willing to manufacture lighting controllers with built-in overcurrent protection to the output receptacles. I have personally refused to install any brand name manufactured lighting controller and would rather build my own. If your intentions is to light up a 4k set up, it would seem insane to not use a 4 light controller with 10awg wire ran to it from a 25 amp breaker. Although a 25 amp breaker is not NEC code compliant (you need a 20 amp breaker to be code compliant), it's the closest idea I can think of without using supplemental overcurrent protection as hvac guy has suggested.