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Heavy feeders vs. light feeders

chomsky

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Any thoughts here??? I'm curious what you think or "know"... do plants that feed heavy and take up lots of nutes turn out bigger? better? Is the end result more robust plants/buds/more yield/stronger weed?
 

Easy7

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Yes

If you eat more, you are bigger or soon gonna be.

Hydro plants take in more and get bigger quicker. But with soil some plants just get bigger even with same feed as smaller. I suspect the smaller pants soil keeps more nutrients. Smaller plants soil will get too strong eventually and larger plants soil may deplete sooner. Over all cannabis is a short life cycle crop.
 

Popice

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i actually have to kinda disagree. feeding seems to be very dependant on strain. some light feeders can grow into monsters, while some super heavy feeders that can take a beginners nutrient mix may remain squat and not pull the dry weight of a lighter feeder. but thats their genetics. in soil containers some sativas almost need (or do need) mycos to regulate what is in the soil if not bottle feeding. but the bottles would be very difficult to dillute properly or give a "rounded diet" for what the plant needs to shine. as example ive had different strains in seedling mixes where some keep growing but others get nutrient deprived, and it has nothing to do with what the flowering traits would be like in ratio. i guess then another issue is what is being fed and how that affects uptake of things like main macros. That can also throw off how one plant is percieved of eating compared to another because in the end they both smoke differently to compare, and you may not find out it would be another way, unless you kept slowly altering different things.

like if one person ate 15-25 lbs of fruit per day for a month and one person just ate McDonalds (even at 5lbs per day) the person who ate "more" food may not be the one who gets bigger and better [not trying to promote an 811 or dis mcD just 1st thought] then you have exercise which may relate to training. stress and endurance may necessitate different needs. like if a plant is continually cropped and pinched as opposed to a lst, the nutrient needs may be different like sitting on a couch compared to training for a marathon. look at kobayashi compared to joey chestnut. they both can eat a fuckton of food, but definately finish at different weights.
 

SICE

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Good question. Ive also wondered this. Its obvious that some plants can really eat while others can thrive in little feed

It might related to certain terps...
 

Easy7

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I think it's dialing in the strain. Not very strain is going to enjoy the same program. Some are just picky and never gonna be that cash crop. Even if she is more in the bag. Sorta the bummer about pheno hunting is the variety of needs the different girls have. Some girls don't like a lot of nitrogen and will stunt/burn and look like shit, far from their prime.
 
M

meowmeowmeow

OOKB is a slow veg plant from my experience and from what I've gathered from other farmers....But a beautiful flower and well worth it.
I've got more than a few crosses with its lineage.

At work the Sour Diesel is like 7 ft tall and let's just say the regiment of nutes is probably like a powerlifter on steroids.
 

GoatCheese

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Landraces are many times nute sensitive and some can be big yielding, so it's prolly more about genetics and how well the plant can use nutrients.
:)
 

chomsky

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Landraces are many times nute sensitive and some can be big yielding, so it's prolly more about genetics and how well the plant can use nutrients.
:)

I hope you are right, because I am doing a test grow right now and I am in unfamiliar territory with plants that barely stretch. My yield is going to be about half of what it normally would be so I am hoping for some super frosty didn't snugs in place of size. These plans are very sensitive to feeding.
 

GoatCheese

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I hope you are right, because I am doing a test grow right now and I am in unfamiliar territory with plants that barely stretch. My yield is going to be about half of what it normally would be so I am hoping for some super frosty didn't snugs in place of size. These plans are very sensitive to feeding.


What are you growing?


Don't try to push them with nutrients, if you start to see little leaf tip burn, then back off a little and then try to stay abit below that leaf tip burn-level.
Some landraces/sensitive plants can hermie a little if they are over fed for too long. Many times it's advised to not to give them too much N in flower



Are you flowering them already? If not veg them longer to have bigger bushes when you flip to 12/12.

You can also strategiclaly trim off some of the fan/smaller leaves to get more light penetration to lower buds.

Also it might be wise to trim off some lower buds in very early flower, if you think they won't be getting much light later. They won't grow up to proper buds and take away energy and mass from the nicer buds above. But don't over do it, if you trim a little


:)
 

Popice

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Goatcheese has good info. and like easy7 said so much is about learning each plant. Sometimes some plants can take a couple runs to understand better, thats part of the enjoyment for me at least. for dry weight vegging can be be an important step, depending on time and space. learning their stretch, trainability and bulk rate with nutrient regiments, 2 totally different plants can finish the same size. now something super finicky, well thats up to each grower whether its high and affects are worth it.
 

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