Heavy drooping/yellowing

[milehighmedical]

So I have a mother to-be that is approximately 4-5 weeks old. She's a female clone from a Cheese. The other is a 2 week old clone of a local indica. They're in a cabinet under about 100 watts of cfl's for veg, walls are mylared. Have a passive intake with 4" exhaust fan in the top sucking air out. Keeps humidity at 36-42% and temps around 74F. They're in pro-mix and I have been feeding the Cheese once weekly with botanicare line of nutes as per the chart on the back.

I don't have a way to measure pH due to lack of funds but the water around here is supposed to be pretty spot on. \

Anyone have any advice?

I really want nothing more than to get this girl healthy, take as many clones as I can and throw them under my 600w HPS.

 

[Weedninja]

That's got N deficiency written all over it. Time to pump up the grow nutes or add some dried blood or manure. Try to taper off on the N just before you clone, though.

 

[CoonLover]

The first PH kit i bought was from Ace hardware and it cost 3 bucks.

I purchased one today for 13.00 but it test PH, nitrate, potassium and one more, i forgot. Menards had that one.

mine look the same and my soil is 7.5

 

[MynameStitch]

How often are you watering your plants, your plants look like the nitrogen issue you see here was caused by over watering, lack of o2 in the root zone...

How often were you feeding your plants... how big is that pot size and how big is that plant?
When you water do you let run off come out every time?
How close is the lights?

Is the first plant the mother plant?
Or a clone?
the plant in the first picture also looks like the light was too far away from it, your plant is stretched a bit.

 

[its420]

overwatering and maybe need some cal mag

 

[its420]

botanicare nutes? cal mag bro, thats why they sell it separate, your plants will be able to take in nitrogen when calmag imbalance is fixed, in my opinion

 

[milehighmedical]

Thank you so much for everyone's quick responses.

First to answer some questions:

I was watering every two days, and feeding every third watering (or once a week). I was not letting it dry out completely before watering and when I watered I would make sure there was a decent amount of run-off.

The light was originally 3-4 inches away but it is now 7-8 inches away.

They're both clones that I'm hoping to grow into mothers. The first one is a few weeks older than the second.

I will go get some cal-mag for sure. I've already eased off the watering, every 3-4 days.

 

[yortbogey]

EWC. Tea......works EVERYtime......w/out the burn......

 

[milehighmedical]

So... I broke the bank and bought a timer to take it from 24/0 to 18/6 to give it some rest. I got some cal-mag from botanicare to remedy the deficiencies, and I got a really nice pH meter. I knew I had to get it eventually.

Turns out the water out of my tap was 7.8-.79!! So waaay off. I made a one gallon nute mix with the grow formula, liquid karma and cal-mag and it re-tested at 6.2-6.3. Which I think should be spot on.

Now my concern is I watered two days ago and it's still moist. Should I wait till she's dried
out to re-water with the new mix? Or should I apply just the cal-mag somehow?

She has some nute burn from foliar feeding because I was too dumb to wash it off afterwards.

Any suggestions on how specifically I should try to administer the remedy?

Thanks again

 

[MynameStitch]

wait for a while, until the pot is light, when it dries out, but don't let it dry out completely, just barely moist is when you want to water and when you do feed it. Cause it's got nitrogen deficiency from over watering, flushing out of the soil not to mention lack of o2 is what caused the N/mag issue, over watering flushes soil quicker than the plant has to absorb it so you contribute to a chain reaction of problems.

How much food did you use with how much water when you foliar fed?

 

[milehighmedical]

Looks like it will be ready for feeding tomorrow. I used the same dilution for foliar feeding as for regular feeding. Sprayed it with a fine mist till there was a few drips, not washing them with plain water afterwards was my mistake.

Is there any potential permanent damage from a condition such as this? It seems mild compared to a lot of pictures I've seen. But a couple brown spots developed today.

Will get some pictures up 18-24 hours after next watering/feeding. See if she likes it.

Thanks for your response

 

[exer]

this is over watering 100%

 

[exer]

let the soil dry complete

 

[MynameStitch]

Here is the problem, since all the leaves are yellow, they will ALL fall off soon, so the quicker you can get them food so they can grow more leaves the better........

It's going to take up to a week before you see any real changes....... if you were in hydro it would be around the time frame you posted.......

Permanaant would be stunted growth/longer time to recover is pretty much the only issue that will be permanent, besides the yellow leaves, they will never get there green color back... they will eventually turn tan after the plant has sucked the leaf dry and then fall off.. a lot of times they fall off before they turn tan necrotic.