Hawaii

[Spaventa]

I just saw the latest reports and its worrying.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/26/us/hawaii-kilauea-volcano/index.html

Could this have some connection to the the "mystery booms" across the US?

Is there a massive eruption brewing? Im reminded of the 90s theories about Yellow stone. Could that be the real danger? A natural disaster of epic proportions?

IF whats happening in Hawaii started happening across the US mainland, what would be done? What would the survival/escape plan be? How would it end?

If you have information to allay my fears please share. There are instances where I really want my thoughts to be wrong.

 

[MJPassion]

I doubt it is related to the mystery booms.

A lot of folks have left but some still remain to protect what little they have.

There are daily updates of the situation on U tube...

I’m not in HI

 

[Spaventa]

I doubt it is related to the mystery booms.

Mystery booms were heard in Hawaii as far back as 2012 and got more frequent in 2017. Now Hawaii is a disaster zone and the booms are heard across the US.

 

[MJPassion]

Hawaii isn’t a disaster zone.

There’s just a little lava flowing at this point & every once in a while a fissure spits up a little as well. The disaster area is fairly small compared to either the archipelago or the Big Island. There are only a few small communities that are directly affected by the lava. At least for now. (about 1200 people evaced last I heard)

The volcanic activity in HI has rekindled the Yellowstone dialogue.

 

[Spaventa]

Hawaii isn’t a disaster zone.

There’s just a little lava flowing at this point & every once in a while a fissure spits up a little as well. The disaster area is fairly small compared to either the archipelago or the Big Island. There are only a few small communities that are directly affected by the lava. At least for now. (about 1200 people evaced last I heard)

The volcanic activity in HI has rekindled the Yellowstone dialogue.

The president declared it a disaster zone on the 12th of this month. Its official.

 

[Rocky Mtn Squid]

Did Fracking Cause Hawaii Volcanic Eruption ?

Did Fracking Cause Hawaii Volcanic Eruption ?

Did fracking cause the Hawaii volcano eruption?

by Jon Rappoport

May 22, 2018

On the Big Island of Hawaii, where the Kilauea volcano has explosively erupted, there is a geothermal energy plant. It is the Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) Plant, in Puna.

There is a long-running debate about whether PGV is fracking. The debate may be a matter of terminology, because in the geothermal process, as hawaiifracking.com reports, “…the drilling and the injection of cold water into hot rocks used in geothermal energy plants does fracture the rocks, which can induce earthquakes and through contamination of the atmosphere and water tables can affect our health and safety.”

Whether deep injection of fluid aims to capture oil, gas, or heat (geothermal), the beginning stage of the process is the same.

Earthquakes induced by this water-injection could obviously trigger a volcano.

For example, here is an alarming article about a geothermal project in Switzerland. Swissinfo.ch, December 10, 2009: “The authorities in canton Basel City say they will cancel a geothermal energy project, which three years ago caused minor tremors that damaged many buildings.”

“A risk analysis study published on Thursday found that the danger of setting off more earthquakes was too great if drilling at the site resumed.”

“The project was put on hold three years ago after thousands of claims for damage were filed with insurers. Total costs for the damage were around SFr9 million ($8.78 million).”

“The study, commissioned by the canton, concluded that Basel was ‘unfavourable’ for geothermal power generation.”

“It said the resumption of Deep Heat Mining project and its operation over a 30-year period could set off around 200 tremors with a strength of up to 4.5 on the Richter Scale – in 2006, the quakes were about 3.4.”

“This would result in damages up to SFr40 million.”

“The Basel facility drilled five kilometres into the earth. The borehole was designed to be injected with water to capture the extreme heat. Back at the surface, the hot water – at a temperature of around 160° Celsius – would run a steam turbine coupled with a generator.”

This Swiss article outlines the risks, and also confirms that deep water-injection is used in the geothermal process—which can and does trigger earthquakes.

Here is another reference—The Guardian, July 11, 2013: “Pumping water underground at geothermal power plants can lead to dangerous earthquakes even in regions not prone to tremors, according to scientists.”

“Prof Emily Brodsky, who led a study of earthquakes at a geothermal power plant in California, said: ‘For scientists to make themselves useful in this field we need to be able to tell operators how many gallons of water they can pump into the ground in a particular location and how many earthquakes that will produce’.”

“It is already known that pumping large quantities of water underground can induce minor earthquakes near to geothermal power generation and fracking sites. However, the new evidence reveals the potential for much larger earthquakes, of magnitude 4 or 5, related to the weakening of pre-existing underground faults through increased fluid pressure.”

“The water injection appears to prime cracks in the rock, making them vulnerable to triggering by tremors from earthquakes thousands of miles away. Nicholas van der Elst, the lead author on one of three studies published on Thursday in the journal Science, said: ‘These [injected] fluids are driving [earthquake] faults to their tipping point’.”

“The analysis of the Californian site showed that for a net injection of 500m gallons of water into the ground per month, there is an earthquake on average every 11 days.”

“Heather Savage, a co-author on the same study said: ‘It is already accepted that when we have very large earthquakes seismic waves travel all over the globe, but even though the waves are small when they reach the other side of the world, they still shake faults [such as the faults induced by geothermal water-injection]. This can trigger seismicity in seismically active areas SUCH AS VOLCANOES where there is already a high fluid pressure.” (emphasis added)

So, on the Big Island of Hawaii, where there is a massive volcanic eruption underway, there is a geothermal plant, PGV. How close to the volcano is PGV?

The Washington Post, May 12: “Long a concern for residents and the target of lawsuits challenging its placement ON AN ACTIVE VOLCANO, the Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) is a major safety issue [i.e., chemicals stored at PGV] in the wake of the eruptions and earthquakes that have shaken the Big Island for days, government officials say.” (emphasis added)

I see. PGV is ON the volcano. Other reports claim PGV is 15 miles from the volcano. In either case, PGV is close, very close.

Who owns PGV? Ormat Technologies. Through internal merger and stock swapping, Ormat appears to be a jointly owned Israeli and US company now.

Ormat is no stranger to scandals. At blog.heartland.org, H Sterling Burnett writes (4/1/15): One scandal that could haunt [Harry] Reid for his remaining time in the Senate (and possibly beyond) was reported on recently in the Washington Free Beacon and Courthouse News. It seems the Reid helped the green energy company, Ormat Technologies, a firm that owns and manages geothermal plants in California and Hawaii, secure nearly $136 million in economic stimulus funding from the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.”

“Two former employees are suing the firm, claiming Ormat executives defrauded the United States of more than $130 million by reporting false information about two projects to get government grants, a federal judge ruled Tuesday.”

“Reid’s ties to Ormat are deep. The company runs geothermal plants in Nevada and Reid has been a big booster of the company in D.C. As reported in the Free Beacon, ‘Reid bragged about securing Ormat a $350 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy (DOE) and took credit for expanding the Treasury program that the former employees say illicitly provided Ormat with millions more in taxpayer funds’.”

“It is also worth noting that Ormat’s DOE award came a year after investors sued the company for allegedly inflating its stock price through ‘fraudulent accounting and overstated financial results.’ Ormat settled the allegations in 2012 for $3.1 million.”

Ormat potentially faces a much larger scandal now.

A massive volcanic eruption on the Island of Hawaii.

Source :https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/did-fracking-cause-the-hawaii-volcano-eruption/


And this video from Michael Salla, PhD:

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[Hermanthegerman]

The president declared it a disaster zone on the 12th of this month. Its official.

The only desaster zone is Trumps haircut.

 

[Water-]

it is an extremely active Volcano.

whats happening is nothing new.

same thing happened during the 1950's in the same area.

whats new are lots of houses and a geothermal well.

 

[BudToaster]

geo-engineering test case ... i'm rooting for the volcano to put up enough dust to cool the earth ... bend the heating curve down enough for a couple extra decades ... then i'm out, most likely.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

G, all there is, is a wandering hot spot under the earthsurface. No, sorry the Surface is moving over the hot spot.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsFCCTB4eC8

 

[armedoldhippy]

Hawaii is the least of our volcanic worries. if the Yellowstone caldera was to go off for real, literally the entire world would be hating it. estimates are that millions around the world will die of starvation as a result of the disruption of farming in this country...or, you could look at it as Mother Nature thinning the herd.

 

[shithawk420]

I just saw the latest reports and its worrying.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/26/us/hawaii-kilauea-volcano/index.html

Could this have some connection to the the "mystery booms" across the US?

Is there a massive eruption brewing? Im reminded of the 90s theories about Yellow stone. Could that be the real danger? A natural disaster of epic proportions?

IF whats happening in Hawaii started happening across the US mainland, what would be done? What would the survival/escape plan be? How would it end?

If you have information to allay my fears please share. There are instances where I really want my thoughts to be wrong.

If that happened im pretty sure at least 75% of the states would be wiped out.its kinda funny cause this kid i know wants to be a volcanoligist.feel bad for the kid cause he would just fall right in.Volcanoes are no joke.dont know why peope take them lightly

 

[Spaventa]

Hawaii is the least of our volcanic worries. if the Yellowstone caldera was to go off for real, literally the entire world would be hating it. estimates are that millions around the world will die of starvation as a result of the disruption of farming in this country...or, you could look at it as Mother Nature thinning the herd.

Yes this is what my friend told me in the 90s and I took it seriously then. The guy was a genius software developer, a pioneer of some amazing technology. Someone you had to take seriously, basically.
We have had these booms here in England too.
I'm sorry to hear about people in Hawaii losing their property but I'm more concerned about this being the start of something of epic proportions with global impact.