Hash making question

[grayeyes]

As you all have probably seen, I have seen the youtube videos of hash being produced by putting the buds under a layer over and under the buds and them beating them into a bucket. But I once heard a story from someone I still find believable.

The story I heard took place in the middle east. Where hash production used to be reverent. They would take the dry flowers into a tiled on the floor, walls and ceiling room with tiles. Obviously to clean when done. They would take the dry flowers into the room, close the door while the collector went in naked (to not steal the production) and beat the flowers with a stick. The hash would release from the agitation and stick to walls in levels that would be graded. The higher up the higher the price. Reserved for the master and his entourage was the ceiling smoke which was said to be fairly clear resin. It was said it made the other production pretty much viewed as dirt.

Has anyone else ever heard this story?

 

[Donald Mallard]

try and find the first cannagraphic dvd gypsy made ,
you ll see what you need to see on that ,
the guys werent naked though , you ll have to watch something else to see that ,, lol ....

 

[grayeyes]

Where would I find that, Duckie?

 

[Donald Mallard]

geez i dunno , maybe there is some on youtube , i thougth this site should have them somewhere for free , perhaps message gypsy and ask if there is a recording of it somewhere ..

 

[moose eater]

As you all have probably seen, I have seen the youtube videos of hash being produced by putting the buds under a layer over and under the buds and them beating them into a bucket. But I once heard a story from someone I still find believable.

The story I heard took place in the middle east. Where hash production used to be reverent. They would take the dry flowers into a tiled on the floor, walls and ceiling room with tiles. Obviously to clean when done. They would take the dry flowers into the room, close the door while the collector went in naked (to not steal the production) and beat the flowers with a stick. The hash would release from the agitation and stick to walls in levels that would be graded. The higher up the higher the price. Reserved for the master and his entourage was the ceiling smoke which was said to be fairly clear resin. It was said it made the other production pretty much viewed as dirt.

Has anyone else ever heard this story?

My understanding was that most ME (Lebanese, Morroccan, etc.) hash was seived/sifted, and it was Far Eastern/Mid Asian hash where 'rubbed hash' or charas was processed.

Your story seems to cover something altogether different, though maybe something from in between the 2 primary methods I'm most familiar with?

There's been a lot of mysticism in the West re. hashish and how it was made. There were stories of naked folks running through the fields in Nepal, etc., collecting hashish on their bodies. Not sure that was true, though, and the folks demonstrating making charas look fully clothed to me.

Maybe something Gypsy has knowledge of, per Donald Mallard, but nothing like that in my book by Laurence Cherniak 'The Great Books of Hashish,' at least not that I recall seeing or reading about.

 

[moose eater]

Give this a look. It was new to me. But I am not sure it is what you're seeking.

 

[goingrey]

Here's the one with Gypsy. It's very good. Unfortunately age restricted like the Steve DeAngelo one above.

 

[grayeyes]

Ok, this is the method I think everyone has seen previously. This wasn't what I was asking about. Sort of crude country method.

Give this a look. It was new to me. But I am not sure it is what you're seeking.

Both videos are basically the same method of beating over ceramic coated bowls. What I was asking about was a bit more sophisticated involving a tiled room with the product sticking to the walls, floors and ceiling thus grading the product.

guess no one has heard the story I related. Thanks for trying.

 

[goingrey]

Ok, this is the method I think everyone has seen previously. This wasn't what I was asking about. Sort of crude country method.

Both videos are basically the same method of beating over ceramic coated bowls. What I was asking about was a bit more sophisticated involving a tiled room with the product sticking to the walls, floors and ceiling thus grading the product.

guess no one has heard the story I related. Thanks for trying.

Could it be from Clarke's Hashish! or one of Cherniak's books?

Edit: I took a look in Hashish! and doesn't seem to be in there at least. If anyone's got Cherniak's books 1 and 2 they could maybe look?

 

[Donald Mallard]

might be just a story as i cant see how hash is going to be sticking to walls floor and ceiling without being pressed onto it ,
how does that grade the product ??
in the world of cannabis there are more wild stories than there are fairy tales in the rest of the world ....

 

[goingrey]

might be just a story as i cant see how hash is going to be sticking to walls floor and ceiling without being pressed onto it ,
how does that grade the product ??
in the world of cannabis there are more wild stories than there are fairy tales in the rest of the world ....

It does sound like a made up story. Not as good as the story I heard about charas making a long time ago, that naked virgins would run through the fields to have the resin collect on their bodies. Funny how this hash maker was also naked even if for a different reason.

That said, it's not totally ridiculous. Beating a pile in a room will surely have stuff flying everywhere. Most will end up on the floor (the bulk). But maybe some small and sticky resin heads would get stuck to the ceiling and walls and be the headstash?

Or maybe it's just nonsense. Still would be interesting to know where it's from. Another probable source could be some old High Times or similar magazine.

 

[Donald Mallard]

hahah yes it s more value if its virgins doing that work ,
they would want to be all shaved too cause hair in the hash my be a bit of a turn off for most folks ,

im open to a novel process used for selecting the better head stash for sure ,
if using some silk screens and beating , im not sure how much is going to be emancipated to be able to settle on walls and roofs ,
maybe a little light thrashing first to collect , as we do with ice water hashish , may well produce the desired head stash quality though ... ???

 

[zaprjaques]

extra vergine musky headstash.
dudes walking around smelling their fingers all day.

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[*GROWHIGH*]

the only grading i have ever heard of is 'first sieve' ... and the colour 'blonde' ect .......obviously the darker the colour the more leaf matter in the hash ......but who knows when talking about industrial hash, production,.sounds like a wacky method tho lol

 

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[grayeyes]

Thx Cvh

 

[Rembetis]

The Lebanese "Red" we had in the 70's was produced by them leaving the plants standing in the fields until after they were frost killed. I think demand for Blonde probably forced them to harvest sooner to get the crop to market. It really was good smoke, so it makes me wonder if we have any idea what we are talking about when we have discussions about trichome maturity and when to harvest.
As far as the different methods, it has a lot to do with climate. Dry areas in general sieve and humid tropical areas rub Charas. Same places did it either way just because. I ran across a guy in Jamaica trying to sieve. It was a sticky mess due to heat and humidity. They are using bubble bags when they can get them but the hash molds very quickly in that climate. It never gets to dry out. Jamaica to me is a perfect example of traditional areas trying to adapt to western market demands so traditional hash making will probably go away and it will all be water hash or oil at some point