DontTellMyWife
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First off, thanks in advance for any assistance. I feel obligated to mention that I live in Central America, so my accesability to many of the specialized ingredients is very limited, and I'm also a 1 on experience.
This is a stealth, micro grow.
This leaf curl began a few days after I supplemented a 10:1 urine fertilizer (yes, I know) because I began to see leaf yellowing on bottom leaves moving up into the new growth with what I saw as stunted, compared to how the growth had gone. Also, I foliar fed the same ratio on two consecutive days (fresh mix on day 2). Within 2-3 days, the growth spurt was noticeable and once again green. I also chose to lower the plants from the lights because I wanted them to stretch more for cuttings. And then, this leaf twisting happened. I run the lights at night, so the temperature fluctuations is probably 10-12F max.
How long has this problem been going on? 4 or 5 days
What STRAIN are you growing? Critical Cure, Critical, Honeysuckle, IceBreaker, Super Cheese
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)Seed
What is the age of your plants? 4 weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 3 weeks.
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before?I started them in a coco/pumice mix. The root growth was extremely fast and I didnt want to disturb that when I transplanted at 1 week into a soil. So, I just slid that cup size amount into the next sized pots, which are just 2-3L bottles cut to about 4-5 inches tall.
How Tall are the plants? 4- 6 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) doesnt apply
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 2-3 liter bottles cut to 4-5 inches tall. 1 plant per pot.
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) mix of store bought poting soil,compost,wormcast, and coco. my best guess is that it's a 1:1:1:1 ratio, but in reality I went with how the soil felt in my hand thinking of drainage. Also, have some wood charcoal (marketed for fire and ag use) that I inocculated for several weeks in wormcastings.
What brand Nutrient's are you using? none
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? The best I could tell, since I'm using a drops test kit and the water was tinted with runouff, around 6.5-7.
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? The runoff, only once after this happened
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? ph liquid drops
COLOR="red"]How often are you watering?[/COLOR] I let things get dry, using a "how heavy" and feeling first two inches of soil.
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? Only real feeding was the urine and 1 dose of coconut water dosed at 15ml/L water.
What size bulb are you using? In this particular 1 sq foot room, 4 6500k LED bulbs (lens removed) 5W...total of 20 watts.
How old is your bulbs? new
What is the distance to the canopy? currently 6 inches, but was running them closer (before I saw this twist)
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) I have not tested that, but I'm in a tropical area and we are just starting rainy season, so the outside air is between 65-85. The grow box is outside, so it's getting fresher air than would be indoors.
What is the canopy temperature? I run the lights at night, so the most I have recorded is around 86F (30c) right at the lights. It's a short box, about 17 inches to the lights. The temp recorded at the base is about 75 at the same time I get the 86 reading.
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) It's pretty much staying between 75-86.
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) I'm using 1 120mm pc fan to pull air out. 1 90mm pc inside circulating.
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? always running. inside fan was low, blowing below the plants (on the pots), ive since moved it above canopy (thinking heat stress). I have 2 outlet holes and 3 inlets. The outlets high, inlets low.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? The only thing I can say is that I don't see much, if any water deposits on any of my faucets. I guess that would classify as soft?
What water are you using? Tap water, let it set for a few days in the sun before using.
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? 1 plant, I topped (critical cure) before this episode.
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
Are plant's infected with pest's? haven't used any pesticides. There was a day or two after the urine feed that I saw some of those small fruit-fly sized flies. Obviously attracted by the odor. They were gone within a day.
This is a stealth, micro grow.
This leaf curl began a few days after I supplemented a 10:1 urine fertilizer (yes, I know) because I began to see leaf yellowing on bottom leaves moving up into the new growth with what I saw as stunted, compared to how the growth had gone. Also, I foliar fed the same ratio on two consecutive days (fresh mix on day 2). Within 2-3 days, the growth spurt was noticeable and once again green. I also chose to lower the plants from the lights because I wanted them to stretch more for cuttings. And then, this leaf twisting happened. I run the lights at night, so the temperature fluctuations is probably 10-12F max.
How long has this problem been going on? 4 or 5 days
What STRAIN are you growing? Critical Cure, Critical, Honeysuckle, IceBreaker, Super Cheese
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)Seed
What is the age of your plants? 4 weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 3 weeks.
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before?I started them in a coco/pumice mix. The root growth was extremely fast and I didnt want to disturb that when I transplanted at 1 week into a soil. So, I just slid that cup size amount into the next sized pots, which are just 2-3L bottles cut to about 4-5 inches tall.
How Tall are the plants? 4- 6 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) doesnt apply
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 2-3 liter bottles cut to 4-5 inches tall. 1 plant per pot.
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) mix of store bought poting soil,compost,wormcast, and coco. my best guess is that it's a 1:1:1:1 ratio, but in reality I went with how the soil felt in my hand thinking of drainage. Also, have some wood charcoal (marketed for fire and ag use) that I inocculated for several weeks in wormcastings.
What brand Nutrient's are you using? none
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? The best I could tell, since I'm using a drops test kit and the water was tinted with runouff, around 6.5-7.
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? The runoff, only once after this happened
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? ph liquid drops
COLOR="red"]How often are you watering?[/COLOR] I let things get dry, using a "how heavy" and feeling first two inches of soil.
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? Only real feeding was the urine and 1 dose of coconut water dosed at 15ml/L water.
What size bulb are you using? In this particular 1 sq foot room, 4 6500k LED bulbs (lens removed) 5W...total of 20 watts.
How old is your bulbs? new
What is the distance to the canopy? currently 6 inches, but was running them closer (before I saw this twist)
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) I have not tested that, but I'm in a tropical area and we are just starting rainy season, so the outside air is between 65-85. The grow box is outside, so it's getting fresher air than would be indoors.
What is the canopy temperature? I run the lights at night, so the most I have recorded is around 86F (30c) right at the lights. It's a short box, about 17 inches to the lights. The temp recorded at the base is about 75 at the same time I get the 86 reading.
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) It's pretty much staying between 75-86.
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) I'm using 1 120mm pc fan to pull air out. 1 90mm pc inside circulating.
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? always running. inside fan was low, blowing below the plants (on the pots), ive since moved it above canopy (thinking heat stress). I have 2 outlet holes and 3 inlets. The outlets high, inlets low.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? The only thing I can say is that I don't see much, if any water deposits on any of my faucets. I guess that would classify as soft?
What water are you using? Tap water, let it set for a few days in the sun before using.
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? 1 plant, I topped (critical cure) before this episode.
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
Are plant's infected with pest's? haven't used any pesticides. There was a day or two after the urine feed that I saw some of those small fruit-fly sized flies. Obviously attracted by the odor. They were gone within a day.
