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hackers remote control your car?

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WeetisPotPie

Who's to blame. Lazy, screen addicted consumers or quick to make a profit corporations?
We've become a gadget world! Too distracted by electronics to drive a car.
 

idiit

Active member
Veteran
^ this is not a texting and driving situation. :)

^ we're talking complete control over a vehicle being driven by it's rightful owner to the point they can wreck the car and even kill the driver:

Michael Hastings was a leading edge investigative reporter for "ROLLING STONES MAGAZINE"
revealing many secrets that the elites did not want revealed:

Hastings was driving a 2013 Mercedes C250 coupe when he crashed into a tree on Highland Ave. in Los Angeles at approximately 4:30 am on June 18. Video posted online showed the car in flames, and one neighbor told a local news crew she heard a sound like an explosion. Another eyewitness said the car's engine had been thrown 50 to 60 yards from the car. There were no other vehicles involved in the accident.
The fire was so all-consuming that it took the Los Angeles County coroner's office two days to identify Hastings' body, but Clarke said a cyber attack on the vehicle would have been nearly impossible to trace "even if the dozen or so computers on board hadn't melted."

In the days before his death, Hastings was reportedly working on a story about a lawsuit filed by Jill Kelley, who was involved in the scandal that brought down Gen. David Petraeus, according to the LA Times. KTLA reported that Hastings told colleagues at the news site BuzzFeed that he feared the FBI was investigating him. On June 20, the FBI denied that any investigation was under way.

"I believe the FBI when they say they weren't investigating him," said Clarke. "That was very unusual, and I'm sure they checked very carefully before they said that."

Clarke worked for the State Department under President Ronald Reagan and headed up counterterrorism efforts under Presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. He also served as a special adviser on cyberterrorism to the younger Bush and published a book on the topic, Cyber War, in 2010.

"I'm not a conspiracy guy. In fact, I've spent most of my life knocking down conspiracy theories," said Clarke, who ran afoul of the second Bush administration when he criticized the decision to invade Iraq after 9/11. "But my rule has always been you don't knock down a conspiracy theory until you can prove it [wrong]. And in the case of Michael Hastings, what evidence is available publicly is consistent with a car cyber attack. And the problem with that is you can't prove it."
Was Michael Hastings' Car Hacked? Richard Clarke Says It's Possible


Posted: 06/24/2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-car-hacked_n_3492339.html

In what is being called "the first of its kind," Wired.com reports that hackers, using just a laptop and mobile phone, accessed a Jeep Cherokee's on-board systems (via its wireless internet connection), took control and crashed the car into a ditch from 10 miles away sitting on their sofa
^ read the article. wired magazine is the premier techno mag out there right now. first class, world class articles.

first of it's kind: read first real scientific evidence.

it was once called 'conspiracy theory'.
. :)
 

BigJohnny

Member
Again, I can't see any reason that Uconnect or other such internet enabled systems in cars should be tied to the throttle system, how does that make any sense? It's like having a remote start installed that can rev the engine. Wtf would be the point behind that?

Same with the brakes, is that just in case you remote rev your engine then realize it was in gear so you need to stop it??

Don't get me wrong, I really do enjoy my fancy gadgets and technology, but some things are just plain stupid.

This is why I don't like these drive by wire systems where the throttle and steering wheel aren't physically connected to the parts they're controlling. What if I lose a sensor or something in the steering wheel column, suddenly I can't turn left, only right.... or completely lose the ability to turn altogether.
 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
Veteran
ha ha suckers...I will be the last to not have a car that can be shut down or controlled remotely..fuck onstar and such...yeehaw...I said this shit when it was first introduced..i love their response basically SHHHH don't tell anyone....lol
 

Dropped Cat

Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch
Veteran
That's just fucking great.

I like older cars to work on, the wife gets the newer ones.

Safer and more reliable? sigh.

Where's the peace of mind that some knucklehead can hack
the car and cause a crash?

It's probably Obama's fault, lol.
 

Max Headroom

Well-known member
Veteran
i'm sure these vulnerabilities have been used by the all-powerful intelligence agencies to get rid of politicians/activists/journalists who don't play ball.

to me the 'internet enabled car' is a completely unnecessary feature/security risk and i won't ever be driving a car like that.

i'm not particularly fond of classic cars but i'm gonna drive them for the rest of my life. ('99 toyota ATM, they last forever)

i want airbags and ABS, nothing else. fuck onstar and similar systems like that. i use a passive GPS (that can't send data, only receive it)

i've read that insurance companies are already using the data collected by your car to fix your insurance rate. for example how aggressively you step on the gas, how loud you listen to music in your car(!) etc, etc...
 
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