Growroom electric panels and how much power?

[dank001]

Master growers, I have built out 2 rooms with a sharing wall. the flower room will be 18.5 ' x 34' x 10 ' high. will have 21 x 1000 w hortilux eye in a vert set up. 2 x 5 tons, 150 can fan.

My vegg is 15' x 32' x 10' high will have 12 x 600 w mh w 24000 btu mini split w 75 can fan.

My electrician was wondering if there is a certain way he should set up outlets, panel box etc? Can anyone help? Put a master timer>? I have the tian atlas 1 co2 monitor w titan helios 7 w a quest dual dry 155, titan ares 10 lp in both rooms.

Any help is appreciated. I am a noob but have read and studies for a year and have experienced growers on my team. But I need help !Much appreciated.

 

[onavelzy]

Master growers, I have built out 2 rooms with a sharing wall. the flower room will be 18.5 ' x 34' x 10 ' high. will have 21 x 1000 w hortilux eye in a vert set up. 2 x 5 tons, 150 can fan.

My vegg is 15' x 32' x 10' high will have 12 x 600 w mh w 24000 btu mini split w 75 can fan.

My electrician was wondering if there is a certain way he should set up outlets, panel box etc? Can anyone help? Put a master timer>? I have the tian atlas 1 co2 monitor w titan helios 7 w a quest dual dry 155, titan ares 10 lp in both rooms.

Any help is appreciated. I am a noob but have read and studies for a year and have experienced growers on my team. But I need help !Much appreciated.

what did your experienced growers tell you?

 

[J-zee]

Seems steep for someone new at the spôrt

 

[castrau5]

Wire all your ballast up to 240v. figure out how many amps each Helios takes and run a single breaker and wire for each one.

 

[dank001]

The growers have the experience with the plants. What I need help with is the setup of the electrical. I have a lot of noob questions because Im a noob. Any help you guys can help with like castrau5 is greatly appreciated. Should I completely drywall and kilz(primer) the walls before setting up electrical? My framer/drywall guy was telling me to get the electrical set up first (outlets etc) after only putting one side of the drywall up around the frame. Should I have him just finish up the drywall on both sides and seal everything up, then we move to the electrical set up with sub panels, outlets etc?

 

[HarvestMoon303]

The growers have the experience with the plants. What I need help with is the setup of the electrical. I have a lot of noob questions because Im a noob. Any help you guys can help with like castrau5 is greatly appreciated. Should I completely drywall and kilz(primer) the walls before setting up electrical? My framer/drywall guy was telling me to get the electrical set up first (outlets etc) after only putting one side of the drywall up around the frame. Should I have him just finish up the drywall on both sides and seal everything up, then we move to the electrical set up with sub panels, outlets etc?

Why would you think that finishing the drywall would be any type of good idea before the electrical is in? Do you plan on running conduit and drilling/fishing it through your brand new drywall to support 30,000+ watts?! That would be a nightmare In my book. Maybe it would be a good idea to hire a contractor at this point. 1,000+ Sq ft, 30k+ watts of power, and you're skimping on the build with people who clearly don't know what they are doing?

One month's power alone (which will be in the thousands of dollars monthly, every month) is going to be more than the cost of a contractor.

 

[Pangea]

Are you running your receptacles on the outside of your walls in handyboxes w/conduit or recessed inside your walls like a house? I wouldnt want to be your electrician if you close in both sides of a wall and then want me to run wires and boxes in the wall.

 

[vostok]

Whatever you decide ...keep it all open architecture ...like the way they build computers so you can swap and change on a whim ...but above all ..do grow a pot of weed the traditional way first

 

[growshopfrank]

Figure 5 A per light at 240V or 6A per at 208V and for all accessories HVAC exc. double the capacity (10 lights at 240=50A + 50A reserve 100A panel)
For ease of modification I recommend using armored wire surface mounted and use spec/commercial grade receptacles for durability and safety
A pair of 60A definite purpose contactors would switch the lights fine and give the ability to stagger the starts

 

[Mikell]

I wouldn't trust a "experienced grower" that can't set up or oversee the set up of his own grow. Have you seen these guys in action before?

 

[rives]

I think that GSFrank has pointed you in the right direction. My personal choice would be to use EMT over armored cable - it's easier to pull wire in and looks nicer (at least to me). Keep the 80% rule in mind (you can't exceed 80% of the breaker rating with continuous loads), and it might be a good idea to use multiple power relays to switch the lighting if you need to start shedding some load if the A/C quits.

For a project of that magnitude, a small PLC would be the ticket for controlling things.

 

[dank001]

Rives, GrowShopFrank, THANK YOU for your wise words. I appreciate you helping me. I am very eager but naive to this side of the industry. All I know is I appreciate the hard work that goes into creating amazing meds for patients.

 

[dank001]

TY Vostok, Mikell, Pangea, Harvest Moon 303!

 

[Lyfespan]

My shop is half your size and I went with 3phase 200 amp service.

veg room has 110 T-5 tubes on 120v

Bloom room has 8-10 1000 watt hps on 208v

5ton ac
Several air moving fans
Water pumps
Washer dryer
Microwave

 

[dank001]

Luckily, power is not an issue. I have electrical guys working on it. I just wanted toknow a good rule of thumb as far as how much power to pull etc. Ty GSF for that.

Dan

 

[LostTribe]

I wouldn't trust a "experienced grower" that can't set up or oversee the set up of his own grow. Have you seen these guys in action before?

Yah, EH?

Whos the master grower that has no comprehension of electrical installations?

A master grower should have journeyman electrical experience at the very least. Otherwise you wont be able to set up a real commercial grow op. Not commercial = NOOB TUBER. I dont trust any grower who get electrical know how from the web ie youtube.

 

[LostTribe]

Just cuz you slept at holiday inn last night does not make you Ed Rosenthal, FYI.

 

[Mikell]

Did you read the post, or jump to that conclusion based on the first few words?

Master/experienced implies a level of competency in everything pertinent to the job. Perhaps your definition is different, but I would expect anyone using the title to at least have the where with all to direct an electrician. Knowing a little about wiring is almost par for the course, not everyone can call someone out of the book or have access to a friendly sparky.

 

[dansbuds]

i'd be weary of an electrician that didn't have an idea of what you need & where as long as you have a room layout for him . ballast locations , fan locations etc ....

my basic rule of thumb is 50 amps per 4k watts, with lights on 220 volts . that will cover any fans , AC , dehueys etc...

 

[mojave green]

You can't have too many outlets!