Grow closet design, and questions...

[Helix]

Alrighty, this thread really isn't so much about asking directly for help with my grow room...err, closet but more of a "want to run it by some people that are WAY more experienced then me" to see if I am on the right track.

First lets start things off with some bitchin' MSPaint action!



I live in a mobile home 16x80 (actually 16 x 76) in a park somewhere on Earth. My office is at one end, the end that is about 25 feet from the street, and there is about 25 feet of clearence between the homes in the park, also this ficticious op would be for personal use only.

Ok, on with the good stuff.

Grow details: DWC or equiv 300watts max,(1 ~50 veg, 1 250 flower) cooltube(s) aiming for a QP every cycle. I would like to have a indi / sati mix, heavy on the sativa, and will be a "constant" grow to keep those ficticious supplies up and running also allowing for some nice cure times.

Doors to closet:

I am going to seal these up a lot better then they already are. I will hang dark room material (very neatly) behind the door. I will also use something to seal up the bottoms of the doors, as they have about a 2 inch gap at the bottom. The line by the powder dot is where I am going to erect a "divider as the other part of the closet I am going to use as an equipment area (computers, amplifiers, etc.).

Inside of closet:

I am going to dynamat the walls (expensive I know) just to cut down on the already low noise level, and to give myself piece of mind. I am going to install a moisture barrier (plastic sheeting) on the ceiling just for my piece of mind. The access panel (this is actually very nice to have!) I am going to use for ducting out the waste heat, and bring in some fresh air for my ladies, but I will map out air intake / exhaust and emergency overflow drain line, and drain line for the portable A/C I will be using for climate / humidity control. On planet Earth, the region that I live in has high humidity during the late spring to summer months, but I will worry about that later. I will be installing an automatic fire putter-outter in that area also, God knows I hope it never gets used...

Electrical:

I'm worried about this one. I only have 15A to use, unless I have an electrician come in and put another circuit in, and it is looking like I will have to do that, as I will be running multiple PC's, and a seven channel amp + pre-amp / processor. Everything WILL BE on AFCI & GFI enabled circuits for maximum safety. I am going to have to be "creative" on getting the juice to the closet so that it doesn't look strange, but I already have some ideas about that. If you notice the red dot that is real close to the yellow and powder blue dots, so I don't have to make any kind of long runs or anything. Just to note, my electricity is below 0.06 per kW/Hr - so I don't have to worry about my electric bills being suspicious or astronaumical.

Climate control:

Here is where I start to get fuzzy. I was thinking about the cheapeast, NON-DIGITAL (unless it has automatic restart after a power loss) portable A/C I can find. Now I figure that even the smallest unit, it probably being a 5000 BTU unitl will have no problems dealing with such a small space as that. Waste heat will be pumped out though the access panel to the underside of the mobile home. The underpinning has small holes to allow air flow underneath it so the heat should disperse without causing any problems, also I will be trying to time my shit to be on for the most part at night and off for the most part of the day to help control temps too.

Odor Control:

I'm thinking nice carbon scrubber, and VaproTek, so I have a double line of defense. The grow area and veg areas will be isolated inside of the closet too at least with some dark room material (like a grow box - you get the idea) but the ventilation has got me stumped, any suggestions would be real nice about now...

Now there are some other things worth mentioning here. This mobile home is equipped with a whole house ventilation system (basically turning the thermostat from auto to on) and there are vents built into each door at the bottom, IN ADDITION to having a 2 inch gap between the carpet and the "bottom" of the door. This is why I am going to seal up the closet as best as I can, because running that makes a HUGE difference on temps, and quality of the air inside the place.

Now I know that I have missed some stuff, (like where I am going to put my homemade cloner, and my mother(s)) but I am hoping that this thread will grow over time and I can figure out exactly what the hell I am going to be doing, and when it needs to be done, also, I would have taken pics, but I cant find the charger to my digital camera - and the damn battery is dead...

Suggestions, criticisms - they are welcome!

EDITED for changed information...

 

[jojajico]

its pretty ineffecient to run the same wattage veg light as you do flower light. you will probably get better results if u get a 250w hps for flower and a 50w for veg as the plants will be smaller during the veg period and you can fit more under a smaller light. also you shouldnt need a AC because the lights arent gunna be putting out that much heat. some fans and ventilation will do the trick. this is a small grow dont try to over complicate things too much. i reccomend a SCROG grow for the wattage that you will be using i think that will give you the best yeilds.

 

[Helix]

its pretty ineffecient to run the same wattage veg light as you do flower light. you will probably get better results if u get a 250w hps for flower and a 50w for veg as the plants will be smaller during the veg period and you can fit more under a smaller light. also you shouldnt need a AC because the lights arent gunna be putting out that much heat. some fans and ventilation will do the trick. this is a small grow dont try to over complicate things too much. i reccomend a SCROG grow for the wattage that you will be using i think that will give you the best yeilds.

Ok, sweet! Also something else that is important is that I OWN this mobile home, so the park has zero access to underneath, and or inside, which is real good for me.

Now as far as the A/C goes, I am also thinking about the other equipment that is going to be in there. I am aiming for at least 2 2U rackmount quad core systems for other nerdy projects, and my big ass Emotiva MPS-1 power amp, and my DMC-1 pre-amp processor, this is going to add a shit ton of heat to my closet, and I am thinking that with everything going on in there, a small cooling unit might be needed.

Thanks, and keep them coming, once I get my design down, I will then begin putting together the master parts list for EVERYTHING that I need, you know, seeds, stuff to make my cloner, and system, etc, etc...

 

[2buds]

Wow, a lot going on in the old closet. I'd just focus on the plants for now.

 

[Helix]

Wow, a lot going on in the old closet. I'd just focus on the plants for now.

I think you are right. I think I will get this up and running first and then see about adding stuff to the other side later on.

 

[420 dawg]

Is HPS really necessary?

Is HPS really necessary?

I've done a few indoor grows over the years and i've NEVER used one. What are the benifits n the drawbacks of such lighting.

420 dawg

 

[jojajico]

Ok, sweet! Also something else that is important is that I OWN this mobile home, so the park has zero access to underneath, and or inside, which is real good for me.

Now as far as the A/C goes, I am also thinking about the other equipment that is going to be in there. I am aiming for at least 2 2U rackmount quad core systems for other nerdy projects, and my big ass Emotiva MPS-1 power amp, and my DMC-1 pre-amp processor, this is going to add a shit ton of heat to my closet, and I am thinking that with everything going on in there, a small cooling unit might be needed.

Thanks, and keep them coming, once I get my design down, I will then begin putting together the master parts list for EVERYTHING that I need, you know, seeds, stuff to make my cloner, and system, etc, etc...

i think ur getting a little ahead of yourself. first start out with "is this for my own smoke or is this to sell. either way how much do i want to produce per harvest to meet my needs" so how much do you want to produece then we can help you find the most effecient way to do it.

 

[Helix]

i think ur getting a little ahead of yourself. first start out with "is this for my own smoke or is this to sell. either way how much do i want to produce per harvest to meet my needs" so how much do you want to produece then we can help you find the most effecient way to do it.

100% of this ficticious op WILL NOT EVER and I mean EVER be for sale.

I want quality, I want stuff that tastes good, looks good, smells good, and smokes good and not haviing to pay $200+ for 1/4th oz. I'm tired of straight up indica mexibrick shit that I have to basically call out search and rescue to find in the first place. Beggers can't be choosers, and I am completely happy when I find some of that stuff, but after almost 20 years of dealing with people and the potential dangers of this, I am tired, and want to be self sufficient and never have to hunt up a source again.

I would perfer to stick with a HID based lighting system as well. I know you can use CFL's but the yields and potency doesn't seem to be as good as it is with HIDs, at least that is what I have come to learn by reading these forums for a while.

To answer your other question, I am aiming for around a QP every cycle so that I can "put some away" and be able to have some nice cure times. Believe me, I very very much appreciate the assistance in this phase of my learning, and hope to be able to give something back one of these days.

 

[jojajico]

100% of this ficticious op WILL NOT EVER and I mean EVER be for sale.

I want quality, I want stuff that tastes good, looks good, smells good, and smokes good and not haviing to pay $200+ for 1/4th oz. I'm tired of straight up indica mexibrick shit that I have to basically call out search and rescue to find in the first place. Beggers can't be choosers, and I am completely happy when I find some of that stuff, but after almost 20 years of dealing with people and the potential dangers of this, I am tired, and want to be self sufficient and never have to hunt up a source again.

I would perfer to stick with a HID based lighting system as well. I know you can use CFL's but the yields and potency doesn't seem to be as good as it is with HIDs, at least that is what I have come to learn by reading these forums for a while.

To answer your other question, I am aiming for around a QP every cycle so that I can "put some away" and be able to have some nice cure times. Believe me, I very very much appreciate the assistance in this phase of my learning, and hope to be able to give something back one of these days.

you didnt asnwer the question. how much do you want to produce?

 

[Helix]

you didnt asnwer the question. how much do you want to produce?

1 QP. (4 ozs). - If I wind up with more, that is ok, but I figured that would be a good place to "start".

 

[2buds]

after almost 20 years of dealing with people and the potential dangers of this, I am tired, and want to be self sufficient and never have to hunt up a source again.

Damn good reason to grow!

 

[marx2k]

really should be the ONLY reason to grow