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Came to me as a clone. Here’s the picture from 2006….
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Yeah most farms use 30% ammonium. Don't bother explaining that to the basement dwelling retard that is "Megacrop". The entirety company is just some typical pot forum retard.


It's disgusting to learn how many fertilizer "manufacturers" don't know the first damned thing about plants. I have to constantly remind myself that no one in the pot world has a damned clue what they are doing, all fakes, all frauds, all posers. Megacrop obviously doesn't even know why they add amino acids to theirs fertilizer. Zero out of one hundred pot nute slanging retards grasp that aminos are nitrogen. It's pathetic. Utterly sad, disgusting really.
Still waiting for an answer to the question, or was that a dodge?

Yeah most farms use 30% ammonium. Don't bother explaining that to the basement dwelling retard that is "Megacrop". The entirety company is just some typical pot forum retard.
Ammonium is also the "cheapest" form of Nitrogen, so Nutrient manufacturers who want to skimp out and cut corners will easily substitute Ammonium instead of Nitrate nitrogen, especially for nutrients that should be compatible with Hydroponic use.. The "most farms use" statement is meaningless since its an appeal to the masses. Most Americans slop down fast food and soda like their life depended on it. The more important question is, "what do the best farms use?"

Our base nutrient products use an estimated 20-25% Ammonium/non-Nitrate type Nitrogen currently, and 75-80% Nitrate as a rough ballpark.
 
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CocoNut 420

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I used megacrop nutrients and had good results with it, my only complaint was not being suitable for my system unless I made stock solution and siphoned that off leaving the sludgy stuff at the bottom.
 

Old Uncle Ben

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Yeah most farms use 30% ammonium. Don't bother explaining that to the basement dwelling retard that is "Megacrop". The entirety company is just some typical pot forum retard.


It's disgusting to learn how many fertilizer "manufacturers" don't know the first damned thing about plants. I have to constantly remind myself that no one in the pot world has a damned clue what they are doing, all fakes, all frauds, all posers. Megacrop obviously doesn't even know why they add amino acids to theirs fertilizer. Zero out of one hundred pot nute slanging retards grasp that aminos are nitrogen. It's pathetic. Utterly sad, disgusting really.

Bingo! Been preaching about the crazyiness for years. Plants don't need amino acids, hormones, and other crap. That's a sucker punch.

What they really is need is some...........

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Old Uncle Ben

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Still waiting for an answer to the question, or was that a dodge?


Ammonium is also the "cheapest" form of Nitrogen, so Nutrient manufacturers who want to skimp out and cut corners will easily substitute Ammonium instead of Nitrate nitrogen, especially for nutrients that should be compatible with Hydroponic use.. The "most farms use" statement is meaningless since its an appeal to the masses. Most Americans slop down fast food and soda like their life depended on it. The more important question is, "what do the best farms use?"

Our base nutrient products use an estimated 20-25% Ammonium/non-Nitrate type Nitrogen currently, and 75-80% Nitrate as a rough ballpark.

No cutting corners. This is about plant nutrition not about a bunch of crap that noobs fall for - biostimulants, humates, hormones, amino acids........

Ammonical forms of N are slow release aka urea, ammonium sulfate, ammonium nitrate, etc.

If you want to go strictly organic blood meal and Cottonseed meal (5-1-1) are good sources of N.

What a bunch of kiddie baloney. https://greenleafnutrients.com/

"Bud Explosion", "Sweet Candy"? Who you guys trying to fool with this marketing crap and all it's colorful kiddie labels? P and K are not stimulants, they are macros required in moderate amounts.

How much P and K is enough to support good flowering response? The Osmocote 15-9-12 is fine from start to finish as an example. I have many brands and NPK ratios in my toolbox.

Scratch in a little, water, grow, harvest.

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Hiddenjems

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No cutting corners. This is about plant nutrition not about a bunch of crap that noobs fall for - biostimulants, humates, hormones, amino acids........

Ammonical forms of N are slow release aka urea, ammonium sulfate, ammonium nitrate, etc.

If you want to go strictly organic blood meal and Cottonseed meal (5-1-1) are good sources of N.

What a bunch of kiddie baloney. https://greenleafnutrients.com/

"Bud Explosion", "Sweet Candy"? Who you guys trying to fool with this marketing crap and all it's colorful kiddie labels? P and K are not stimulants, they are macros required in moderate amounts.

How much P and K is enough to support good flowering response? The Osmocote 15-9-12 is fine from start to finish as an example. I have many brands and NPK ratios in my toolbox.

Scratch in a little, water, grow, harvest.

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Uncle Ben
Npk are still micronutrients. Macros for plants are water, co2, and photons.
 

xtsho

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I don't see photons listed as macronutrients but I do see N, P, K, and others. Co2 and water "H2o" are compounds. At least that's what I learned in Chemistry back in Middle School 40+ years ago.

"A compound consists of two or more elements chemically bonded in a fixed ratio"


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Hiddenjems

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I don't see photons listed as macronutrients but I do see N, P, K, and others. Co2 and water "H2o" are compounds. At least that's what I learned in Chemistry back in Middle School 40+ years ago.

"A compound consists of two or more elements chemically bonded in a fixed ratio"


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What percentage of a plant is npk compared to water and carbon?

Carbohydrates are a compound that are a macronutrient. Nutrients don’t have to be elemental.

Humans also need many of the same minerals as plants. But we’re aren’t calling phosphorus a macro, even though atp to adp is our energy source.

“The main difference between macronutrients and micronutrients is that macronutrients supply energy in the form of calories, and micronutrients help support vital functions in your body,”
 
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xtsho

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What percentage of a plant is npk compared to water and carbon?

Carbohydrates are a compound that are a macronutrient. Nutrients don’t have to be elemental.

Humans also need many of the same minerals as plants. But we’re aren’t calling phosphorus a macro, even though atp to adp is our energy source.

“The main difference between macronutrients and micronutrients is that macronutrients supply energy in the form of calories, and micronutrients help support vital functions in your body,”

Over 100 years of plant science disagrees with your definition of what a macro nutrient is. I'll defer to those with PhD's and decades of high level study in the field of plant science regarding nomenclature. You can call things whatever you want.

Plants produce their own carbohydrates in the form of sugars produced through photosynthesis.

Plants are different from humans so cutting and pasting from a nutrition website doesn't validate your statement. In the world of plant science NPK are considered macronutrients. And since we're discussing plants we should probably stick to Plant Science.

Npk are still micronutrients. Macros for plants are water, co2, and photons.

“The main difference between macronutrients and micronutrients is that macronutrients supply energy in the form of calories, and micronutrients help support vital functions in your body,”
 

Hiddenjems

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Over 100 years of plant science disagrees with your definition of what a macro nutrient is. I'll defer to those with PhD's and decades of high level study in the field of plant science regarding nomenclature. You can call things whatever you want.

Plants produce their own carbohydrates in the form of sugars produced through photosynthesis.

Plants are different from humans so cutting and pasting from a nutrition website doesn't validate your statement. In the world of plant science NPK are considered macronutrients. And since we're discussing plants we should probably stick to Plant Science.
Macros are calories and micros support their burning.
 

Hiddenjems

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It’s really simple. Analyze a plant to see its composition. Npk is less than 5% of plant weight. Plants are made of carbon and water.


Try raising npk without raising co2 and light. You’ll hit a hard ceiling.
 

Old Uncle Ben

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This is a weird discussion. When we/I speak of nutrients regarding macros aka NPK, secondaries aka Ca. Mg. S and micros aka Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu, B, Cl, Na.....we reference products that provide those necessary (and sometimes beneficial such as Si) to grow our faves.

No need to add a bunch of noise regarding Photons, CO2, water, etc. That's another discussion, thread.

If you want to do this right then you provide your faves a complete diet of nutrients such as you find in Dyna-Gro one part, my fave being Foliage Pro, and late in the veg stage have a tissue analysis done via a lab. Vineyard managers do this. I have a vineyard and I also grow Citrus. As an example tissue analysis of citrus shows it prefers a NPK ratio around a 5-1-3 with a complete micro package. That is more than enough P and K to flower and fruit but you'll not convince noobs who haven't been around long enough to find out. I feed my 4 greenhouse citrus trees nothing but Osmocote, a 8 month release, 15-9-12. Since Dec. 2023 I harvested at least 1,000 excellent quality fruit - many varieties of oranges, limes, lemons, etc. most I grafted on an overbearing key/Mexican lime tree.

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My point being is too many get sucked into the racket of cannabis specific foods, myths such as "flushing". There is no such thing except by marketing design. Folks have ALLOWED THEMSELVES to become brainwashed by label ads and such crap that "Acme Bloom has higher phosphorous for bigger and better blooms". It's as old as the hills.

What you really need is some rocket fuel, organic of course. It's fortified!
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