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Greenhouse a security risk?

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sneakyninja

A friend of mine has an large (6000W+ of lights) indoor grow going on. It's extremely well hidden and he followed my advice (which came from here) to the money on everything possible to alleviate any risk. Besides me and his brother, not a single person knows about this grow and they don't even smoke anymore, simply because they're trying to just blend in, in their neighborhood and not appear to even possibly be stoners. Basically nothing theyre doing currently is going to get them caught.

My friends brother happens to be big in to plants of every variety, not just marijuana. He wants to build a greenhouse in the back yard (suburban cookie cutter mid range neighborhood) and do some hydroponics under a 600w. Nothing even close to resembling marijuana would ever be kept in the greenhouse.

My friend came to me with this situation looking for my opinion on it and even i'm not sure so I said i'd consult "the gods" ie. you guys.

So is this/could this be a potential security problem in ANY way?
 
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JJScorpio

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I have mixed feelings regarding this. Nowadays, the word hydroponic is synonomous with growing marijuana. If a neighbor were to see the hydro-setups and call the police, it might be grounds for a search warrant. This could also include the house where you don't want the police.

Under the "good faith doctrine" although the police would only find legal plants growing outside, they would find the pot inside. This would be done in "good faith" as the courts have sided.

I just think it better not to possibly draw any attention that might be negative with whats going on inside. Thats just my opinion though.......
 
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sneakyninja

JJScorpio said:
I have mixed feelings regarding this. Nowadays, the word hydroponic is synonomous with growing marijuana. If a neighbor were to see the hydro-setups and call the police, it might be grounds for a search warrant. This could also include the house where you don't want the police.

Under the "good faith doctrine" although the police would only find legal plants growing outside, they would find the pot inside. This would be done in "good faith" as the courts have sided.

I just think it better not to possibly draw any attention that might be negative with whats going on inside. Thats just my opinion though.......


That was along the lines of what I said.

How about the same situation only with soil and no hydroponics/lights?
 

yohomz

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Is there somewhere else he can set up a greenhouse? I'd say drawing attention anywhere close to where you grow is drawing negative attention.
 

JJScorpio

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That would be bettter......But......Why take a chance with whats going on inside? If the police had some inkling something was going on inside, why give them a possible reason for a warrant? It's their choice and it shouldn't be a problem. But why take the chance with whats going on inside. The first rule of growing.....Never do ANYTHING that might draw attention to yourself........
 

Echoes

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A tough one...

A tough one...

A tough question. I wouldn't use a greenhouse or hydroponics equipment as this could bring into question what you're growing and it's true "hydroponics" sometimes triggers the knee-jerk "marijuana" response. If anything (and I wouldn't necessarily advise farming at all due to the high risk and high value of what's going on inside) I'd just do a straight soil grow either in pots or straight into the ground. A lot of people in my area do this and it's not uncommon to see flowers, vegetables and things like that in backyards during the proper season. An outdoor venture could help explain gardening equipment, etc if the need ever arose. It's a tough one. For me, I'd just keep it simple and have a few rows of whatever he wants to grow. But if you want to draw 0% gardening/horticulture attention, don't do it.
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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sounds lame, but tell him to pimp out the landscape of his house, roses, or palm trees/tropical maybe alot of flowers, or sth, the only way i think he could even get away with a greenhouse is if people could see from 500ft that there not MJ in there....i doubt that could happen...
 
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Yea I agree plant things outside...when I see a greenhouse, especially at a residence I think of growing the ganja too many ideas/thoughts for peoples minds...
 
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yamaha_1fan

a greenhouse just attracts attention. If he wants to grow, let him grow a garden outside in the dirt. Nosey neighbor peaks over the fence, oh nice tomatoes. But he sees a greenhouse, hmm wonder whats in there.

Its a small risk, but why take it.
 

Limeygreen

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If he was to grow something like peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers in the hydroponics, if anyone asked he can just reply, " I want to see if I can grow these vegetables cheaper than what those greenhouse guys sell it for." Or maybe he doesn't want to plant a garden and instead put up a bunch of shrubs, perennials etc and the greenhouse is where he wants to grow his vegetables. I have never heard of someone getting busted because they had a greenhouse with legal plants.
 
i would think if you were real friendly about it when people asked or was looking, it wouldnt create any neg attntn
im setting up a greenhouse this summer to do laceleaf grafts, and they look like a weed leaf lol
 
I understand what you guys are saying about not giving any reason to investigate... but you guys got to understand your all pretty paranoid. When a normal person sees a greenhouse in someones back yard... they think.. hey they "actually" grow their own vegtables or flowers.. instead of just wish they did that stuff.

They DO NOT assume that it is ganja related in anyway.. as soon as you put bob marley flags up and tye dyed window curtains .. thats different.

You guys are assuming that a cop thinks a greenhouse is related to ganja.. where a cop really relates it to his mom that spends lots of time keeping the grounds tidy.

if a cop thinks you grow weed .. he already thinks you grow weed.. it Won't be because you actually have a greenhouse full of real plants.. and how is anyone supposed to know or care about whats in the gH anyway? from a couple hundred feet away or even up close with any humidity .. you couldnt see if it was chronic or not
Look like someone who cares about your house.. and don't be a stinky hippy and you won't look like your growing weed.
 
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Although I would be the first one to say - don't draw attention to yourself - I have driven by houses in recent years with hydrofarm hoods and bulbs lighting houseplants right in front of exterior windows...

BUT, if it were me - I wouldn't.
 
GorillaGrower said:
You guys are assuming that a cop thinks a greenhouse is related to ganja.. where a cop really relates it to his mom that spends lots of time keeping the grounds tidy.

i wouldn't bet my freedom on that one. there's a lot of cops out there who would love nothing more than to get credit for busting a grow op and being the hero who put the "terrorist marijuana grower" behind bars.
 

FrankRizzo

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If the grow he had inside wasn't so large, I would say go for it. But since it is on the larger side if something where to happen it would mean some serious changes being brought against him. Assuming with that number of watts his plant number is on the higher side. I would fallow everyones suggestions and try doing things out in the open in the dirt.
To me (this is just an observation of mine) any younger male that like to garden in any way is growing something illegal somewhere. I've never meet a kid in his 20's lets say that likes to garden and doesn't grow atleast a little mj. I'm sure they are out there I just haven't met one.
 

twojoints

Member
just remember, the laws are already completely stacked against us civilians, and whatever the police feel like doing they WILL, and they dont have any reason not to charge you with whatever they feel like. if the charges get dropped, they keep their jobs. if you get convicted, they get promoted. its a win/win for them, and you need to realize that even by doing nothing at all you are playing with fire- so making a visible legal grow within yards of a real one is basically sayin 'look at me'
 
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texsativa

I plan on getting both a greenhouse and shed, they're pretty nice to have. I plan on growing both vegetables and cannabis, within state medical laws of course. Homegrown tomatoes and onions are the shit. So is the man cave for his tools.
 

kmk420kali

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sneakyninja said:
A friend of mine has an large (6000W+ of lights) indoor grow going on. It's extremely well hidden and he followed my advice (which came from here) to the money on everything possible to alleviate any risk. Besides me and his brother, not a single person knows about this grow and they don't even smoke anymore, simply because they're trying to just blend in, in their neighborhood and not appear to even possibly be stoners. Basically nothing theyre doing currently is going to get them caught.

My friends brother happens to be big in to plants of every variety, not just marijuana. He wants to build a greenhouse in the back yard (suburban cookie cutter mid range neighborhood) and do some hydroponics under a 600w. Nothing even close to resembling marijuana would ever be kept in the greenhouse.

My friend came to me with this situation looking for my opinion on it and even i'm not sure so I said i'd consult "the gods" ie. you guys.

So is this/could this be a potential security problem in ANY way?

Why would he need a 600w light in a greenhouse??
 
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