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greenmatter
anti american talk ???? what are you seeing that i am not?
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Government WILL Ban Guns Soon....
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whatever!! I got the 420th post so I win!!
I would argue your assumption that only law breakers will be bothered but there is no use...have a nice day
been buying allot of gun powder for my muzzle loader. the muzzle loader will be the last to go. 1776 was won with them,but it will be tough this time. With the new robots they will be useing on us. I wounder if they will paint them red and put bad sets of teeth on them.....
It's not a specific group. It's merely people who don't advocate a ban on weapons yet agree to reasonable gun restrictions like the assault weapons ban in the early 1990s. That ban has expired.
Dick Cheney is an example. Everybody knows ol' Dick loves his guns, up to and including shooting others in the face. Yet Dick proposed we restrict or even ban the 30+ round pistol clip the Arizona nut used to shoot 12 or 13 people.
If that fuckhead's gun hadn't jammed, bystanders would have possibly had to wait to make their move. More folks may have been shot.
Not to mention the idea of a citizen shooter taking the guy out is also dangerous. The shooter dropped his gun when attacked and one of the interventionists picked it up. A cop said he almost shot the guy because the cop thought he was the shooter.
I respect other folks' opinions but I don't believe Brady is a total weapons ban organization. IMO, the whole weapons ban idea is a principle way of thought, the slippery slope thingy.
I can understand the principle exists even if I don't agree with it. Tougher to prove would be any actions backing it up.
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greenmatter
never hunt with a dick ............ even if he is the vice president
iampolluted
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yours is post #423....mine was #420....lol 
i'm not assuming only law breakers would own guns because i know many law abiding folks who wouldn't give em up, my family included. i'm just saying their view of you is that of a criminal, and not because of the guns. the guns would just add to the negative view of you/us, thereby justifying the use of force in their eyes.
i'm not of the belief they'd ever try and take our guns, or that they should. i just wish there was a common sense test or maybe a personality test like employers give to people or something that sets off an alarm that this person shouldn't be trusted with a gun, before they were able to purchase some things. maybe a few lunatics wouldn't have been able to act the way the did. that's not the case and never will be, so we are stuck with a few fucking nut jobs ruining the rights of others by their solitary actions.
the problem i have with the whole gun debate is that there are people who shouldn't have guns, and some people who don't know how, or what to use em for. lack of education, and a lack of respect for a human life are what bothers me the most. i mean c'mon....do you really think of someone who turns their gun sideways before shooting as a gun expert or someone who knows how to use it efficiently? very doubtful. those are the type of people that scare me, not the government. they only show up when they think they need to be there, if you're lucky.
i have a buddy (a bartender) that had a 65 year old retired military officer pull a gun on him while he was at work in a vfw (or something like it), because my friend refused to serve his drunk g/f. when the drunks' gun came out my friend pulled his cell phone and told him he was calling the cops, and took a pic of the drunk with the gun. the guy knows about his pic being taken and that cops were coming so he went back into the bar and retrieved a different weapon. i can't disclose what the other weapon was because it made the news but his cell phone was as much of a deterrent as a gun could ever have been. they'd probably both be dead had my friend chose to pull his 9mm.
point being, even normally rational and sound people misuse guns all the time. it takes a smarter man to realize violence isn't the answer to most of life's problems.
hope you have a good day as well. i got the day off so i'm gonna spend mine baked like a cake.
i'm not assuming only law breakers would own guns because i know many law abiding folks who wouldn't give em up, my family included. i'm just saying their view of you is that of a criminal, and not because of the guns. the guns would just add to the negative view of you/us, thereby justifying the use of force in their eyes.
i'm not of the belief they'd ever try and take our guns, or that they should. i just wish there was a common sense test or maybe a personality test like employers give to people or something that sets off an alarm that this person shouldn't be trusted with a gun, before they were able to purchase some things. maybe a few lunatics wouldn't have been able to act the way the did. that's not the case and never will be, so we are stuck with a few fucking nut jobs ruining the rights of others by their solitary actions.
the problem i have with the whole gun debate is that there are people who shouldn't have guns, and some people who don't know how, or what to use em for. lack of education, and a lack of respect for a human life are what bothers me the most. i mean c'mon....do you really think of someone who turns their gun sideways before shooting as a gun expert or someone who knows how to use it efficiently? very doubtful. those are the type of people that scare me, not the government. they only show up when they think they need to be there, if you're lucky.
i have a buddy (a bartender) that had a 65 year old retired military officer pull a gun on him while he was at work in a vfw (or something like it), because my friend refused to serve his drunk g/f. when the drunks' gun came out my friend pulled his cell phone and told him he was calling the cops, and took a pic of the drunk with the gun. the guy knows about his pic being taken and that cops were coming so he went back into the bar and retrieved a different weapon. i can't disclose what the other weapon was because it made the news but his cell phone was as much of a deterrent as a gun could ever have been. they'd probably both be dead had my friend chose to pull his 9mm.
point being, even normally rational and sound people misuse guns all the time. it takes a smarter man to realize violence isn't the answer to most of life's problems.
hope you have a good day as well. i got the day off so i'm gonna spend mine baked like a cake.
iampolluted said "times change, and the bill of rights was written so citizens could change it's attributes to reflect the needs of the current society and situations we faced. not to hold onto text written 221 years ago, thinking it applies to us now."
tell that to those who read the bible if that is the basis of your debate. Because our country is getting older we need to remove our past and all the documents that protected our RIGHTS that we got FROM BIRTH.
If a cop knocks on our door you must have committed a crime or done something to make them think so? Where are you getting this shit brother? Do you really believe the shit you are writing or just trying to see who will take the bait?
tell that to those who read the bible if that is the basis of your debate. Because our country is getting older we need to remove our past and all the documents that protected our RIGHTS that we got FROM BIRTH.
If a cop knocks on our door you must have committed a crime or done something to make them think so? Where are you getting this shit brother? Do you really believe the shit you are writing or just trying to see who will take the bait?
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S2B
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Pretty much everything you post is stupid as shit. I find it odd you actually take it up a notch, go above and beyond if you will, from your normal stupid shit. Well done bro! Just when i think you cant post anything more fucking stupid ya prove me wrong....every time! 
Pretty much everything you post is stupid as shit. I find it odd you actually take it up a notch, go above and beyond if you will, from your normal stupid shit. Well done bro! Just when i think you cant post anything more fucking stupid ya prove me wrong....every time!
What did he post that was stupid as shit? Was it his opinion or just that you disagree with it?
Don't worry about him....
Another one of those that follow me around, swinging from my balls like Tarzan...
They smell good, dont they S2B? Kinda like your mom's perfume? Wonder why.....
I am just trying to understand what or why people are so scared of guns especially in LAW ABIDING CITIZENS hands. Do people really not want armed people in public out there? I mean IF someone was running down the street shooting people should I allow it or stop it? What would you want someone to do?
It is a great preventative to crime
It is a great preventative to crime
I do agree gun control has worked in the past, who it actually benefits however...
gonna save my penny's and get my license.what do you guys think of the m1? im more than likley just going to shoot at the outdoor range with my friends,but its seems very multi-purpose.a new gun store opened up in my city they have a indoor range and offer courses im gonna go check it out somtime and see what they have available.
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Always add up the cost of rounds when looking for rifles but that is BAD ASS! I want one or two
to the image above, everyone has the comment well not COMPLETE banning of guns but if there are ANY GUNS there will ALWAYS be deaths caused by criminals so how can you say they are not baby stepping the complete banning of them? If Americans were legally allowed to own AND CARRY them the crime WOULD GO DOWN but the more gun regulations just will mean more guns with the criminals and less for us to protect ourselves.
Always add up the cost of rounds when looking for rifles but that is BAD ASS! I want one or two
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to the image above, everyone has the comment well not COMPLETE banning of guns but if there are ANY GUNS there will ALWAYS be deaths caused by criminals so how can you say they are not baby stepping the complete banning of them? If Americans were legally allowed to own AND CARRY them the crime WOULD GO DOWN but the more gun regulations just will mean more guns with the criminals and less for us to protect ourselves.
I love condescending Wonka....
iampolluted
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when was the last time a cop knocked on your door to say hello? in my case, NEVER. only once for noise pollution/party 20 years ago. they visited my personal residence once since then to file a report after $1500 in tools were stolen from me. unless you call the cops or give them a reason to show up on your door, they tend to stay in their cars. where the fuck do you live where they ARE knocking on your door for no legitimate reason? remind me to never visit or live there.
we can go back to 1791 and everything that time entails. lets buy some slaves, deny women all sort of rights, shoot each other for calling them a cocksucker, and rob some banks while we're at it. there'd be no laws, or anyone to enforce them. i'm assuming you're a white male, and if that's the case, you'd probably be fine in a 1791 era. if you're not, you'd be fucked.
yes times change and people change with it, so have our rights. some weren't given the basic right to vote until 1971. when you can grasp the fact that things change over time and we aren't the same country we were back when the 2nd amendment was written, then you can argue for unlimited gun advocacy. until then, go back to history class and come up with a better defense. i, for one, don't wanna see anyone with hk mp5sd roaming the streets looking for the guy that called him a little dicked bitch.
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This guy isn't afraid of any criminals...
respect one another... and hang loose!
respect one another... and hang loose!
Why when you bring up the constitution people always state that we would allow slavery today? What don't people get about the right to LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY? That ALL MEN Are created equal?
If we want to argue state rights here then let's do that then. Should a business be able to decide WHO goes into their establishment? Yes they should and those who do not allow a certain type of person whether that is based on color, sex, creed, religion etc will odds are lose out on money and those people who are left out will only allow ANOTHER BUSINESS to thrive due to their business.
Can I decide who goes into my home? Yes, does it matter what reason I deny access into my house? To be honest it isn't anyones business because it is MY PROPERTY RIGHTS, now if I were to go into someone ELSES property spouting what can or can't happen THERE then I would be outside MY RIGHTS.
Would some allow racist pricks the ability to deny access to THEIR property? yes it could but if they are not infringing on OTHERS RIGHTS to life liberty and THEIR property what crime is being committed besides being a prick? NONE.
As far as religion, my point is you brought up the fact that the old constitution doesn't hold up in todays age because it is outdated according to you. How is it outdated at all? It upholds all of our rights to LIFE LIBERTY AND PROPERTY just as long as you do not infringe on others rights to do the same right? How can that EVER be outdated?
Someone can believe in their book, their god, people can believe in aliens, goats as gods, believe in having multiple wives among a MILLION of things that is THEIR BUSINESS because as long as they are not pushing it on YOU it is none of your business.
As far as gun rights goes how can this not make sense below:
I should have the right to protect MYSELF, my property and if wanted those around me if I so choose from crime or others infringing on their life, liberty or property and if you choose to NOT arm yourself you have that right. Agreed?
So for example, lets say you are walking down the street and some asshole goes around shooting. Should I let you get shot because you do not believe in gun rights or the ability to be armed in public or would you HOPE I would use my rights to protect those around me including YOU?
Do you really believe that whether I had an uzi, rocket launcher, knife, thors hammer or anything I will just start SPRAYING and killing men women and children or do you think if I was willing to CARRY I would have the training to handle the TOOL I had on me?
Can accidents happen? Yes, could a CCW miss his shot? Yes but if you haven't gone through the ccw training you have ZERO room to talk because they put you through the paces trust me. It isn't as easy as you think to get that license and the training DOES make you more than capable of hitting your mark EVERYTIME.
Anyone who carries knows to keep training, to keep practicing because this isn't a joke and any bullet that flies out of your gun whether AUTOMATIC or not is ON YOU and the damage it causes is on YOU.
If we want to argue state rights here then let's do that then. Should a business be able to decide WHO goes into their establishment? Yes they should and those who do not allow a certain type of person whether that is based on color, sex, creed, religion etc will odds are lose out on money and those people who are left out will only allow ANOTHER BUSINESS to thrive due to their business.
Can I decide who goes into my home? Yes, does it matter what reason I deny access into my house? To be honest it isn't anyones business because it is MY PROPERTY RIGHTS, now if I were to go into someone ELSES property spouting what can or can't happen THERE then I would be outside MY RIGHTS.
Would some allow racist pricks the ability to deny access to THEIR property? yes it could but if they are not infringing on OTHERS RIGHTS to life liberty and THEIR property what crime is being committed besides being a prick? NONE.
As far as religion, my point is you brought up the fact that the old constitution doesn't hold up in todays age because it is outdated according to you. How is it outdated at all? It upholds all of our rights to LIFE LIBERTY AND PROPERTY just as long as you do not infringe on others rights to do the same right? How can that EVER be outdated?
Someone can believe in their book, their god, people can believe in aliens, goats as gods, believe in having multiple wives among a MILLION of things that is THEIR BUSINESS because as long as they are not pushing it on YOU it is none of your business.
As far as gun rights goes how can this not make sense below:
I should have the right to protect MYSELF, my property and if wanted those around me if I so choose from crime or others infringing on their life, liberty or property and if you choose to NOT arm yourself you have that right. Agreed?
So for example, lets say you are walking down the street and some asshole goes around shooting. Should I let you get shot because you do not believe in gun rights or the ability to be armed in public or would you HOPE I would use my rights to protect those around me including YOU?
Do you really believe that whether I had an uzi, rocket launcher, knife, thors hammer or anything I will just start SPRAYING and killing men women and children or do you think if I was willing to CARRY I would have the training to handle the TOOL I had on me?
Can accidents happen? Yes, could a CCW miss his shot? Yes but if you haven't gone through the ccw training you have ZERO room to talk because they put you through the paces trust me. It isn't as easy as you think to get that license and the training DOES make you more than capable of hitting your mark EVERYTIME.
Anyone who carries knows to keep training, to keep practicing because this isn't a joke and any bullet that flies out of your gun whether AUTOMATIC or not is ON YOU and the damage it causes is on YOU.
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