got so much, what should I do?

[little-soldier]

Hi everyone,
Ive been going crazy at buying everything that seems good for my babies but now I have so much that I need your help to incorporate all of it into my solution.
Here is the list of what I have
earth juice bloom
molasse
cal/mag
liquid karma
liquid gold
hygrozyme
pro-silicate
pk booster
superthrive

Now its time to feed and want to use everything but I know I cant but its hard, LOL
I did a test to see how high the ppm would be like after I mix everything together and ended up with about 630 ppm (without the pk booster)
The ladies are 2 weeks into their blooming cycle and so the pk is not necessary yet.
Now I just read a thread which mentioned that ec meters is not for organics so I cant base myself out of that 630 ppm which I thought was a little low for all I have put in there but anyways. What would be the best feeding regime for these bitches without burning the crap out of them yet again,LOL?

 

[Pimpslapped]

Are you running in an organic soil mix, or something else? What are the plants growing in now?

Hard to say what/how much you will need of particular nutes without knowing what the plants already have available.

 

[little-soldier]

ok here is the rest of the info
soil is the medium and they in 3 gal pots, I have added 1 cup of worm castings, 1 cup of blood/bone meal, 1 TBSP of seaweed flakes.

 

[Guest]

im in the same boat bro - drove away from the hydro shop w/ a full truck & a maxed credit card but no real knowledge on how to mix the right ratios...

Gonna be another late night searching - good luck bro..

 

[Pimpslapped]

I haven't used the nutes listed, but the first thing to do would be read the labels and look at the recommended doses.

Some of your choices will depend on what stage of growth your plant is in. My understanding is that some products like PK booster, are geared towards the needs of a flowering plant. Start out with a 1/2 or 1/4 strength dose, of course.

If you're going to be using multiple products that supply similar nutes, make sure to remember to use less of each one so you don't overdo it. It's MUCH easier to add more nutes later than it is to deal with burn/having to flush.

Also Cal/Mag shouldn't be necessary in most soil grows, especially if your soil mix contains dolomite lime. If your water is 'hard' then you likely already have a sufficient supply, but keep the cal/mag handy in case of problems.

The plants are 2 weeks into flowering? Have you given them a boost of PK as of yet? If not, may want to just use a simple mix with Liquid Karma at 1/2, maybe a drop of superthrive and PK booster or EJ Bloom.

 

[gromer]

Why not use it all man I could post my crazy list of nutes and additives all added to organic amended soil that has everything but the kitchen sink in it and no burn no overdose just crazy healthy plants.Its all about the final ppm reading and the amounts of each thing used not the amount of different things.As long as you dont exceed 1000ppm in full flower you should be fine.Couple things on there are not organic like Superthrive which I also dont suggest you use in flower but that is a very short list compared to all the stuff I use so I say full speed ahead captain just watch the ppm.

 

[little-soldier]

well thats the problem Gromer, I have tried mixing everything at full strength and got a ppm of around 700-800. Organics dont show up properly on a tds meter so Its showing 700 but it could be way above that and so I dont want to take a chance. I need a way to calculate organics with a meter. can anyone help with this?

 

[joe cool]

calculation + organics = why?

 

[jrw]

What do you mean joe cool?

 

[joe cool]

Well, what I am trying to get at is (ime, anyways) with organics, if you start with a good amended soil mix it should keep them going alright for the first few weeks. As a person gets familiar with a strain, it becomes apparent what to add, when. When adding fertilizer, start with the less is more concept. Don't start adding full strength right away, just because that's what the bottle says. With experience and observation, you will begin to see and understand what the plant wants. There is no specific recipe that will work for all growers, and even all plants, particularly with organics. To me (and why I like organics), it's more of a "feel" thing. The plants will tell you what they want, when they want it. You won't get it right on the very first grow, and it's hard to learn without making mistakes on your own.

ppm and pH seem like a hydro or hydro-organic concern. When growing in soil I don't know of anyone that can give out a specific ppm that's going to work for everyone.

All we know about l-s's soil, is that it's "soil" with a cup of bone and blood (per 3 gallon pot? sounds like an awful lot). What else is in there l-s? What did you use for your base soil? Anything else besides bone and blood in there? Any dolomite, kelp, castings, etc.? I jsut don't see how someone could recommend a specific ppm for soil since there are so many other variables to consider. If myco is used, the fertilizer rate can be decreased due to improved nutrient uptake. Can anyone figure out what l-s's ppm should be from the info given? I can see it with hydro, but organic soil...I'm skeptical.

Just speaking from my own expereince, FWIW.

Edit: you did show your soil mix, so sorry. The above still applies. Pimpslapped has it going on, tho.

 

[srah]

pick one or two to try per grow. if you dump all that stuff in there now, you'll never know what any of them did, if anything at all. or what caused your problem if you have one. all you really need to grow kickass plants is a little bit of good fertilizer. spend your time/money on your environment.

 

[jrw]

Well explained

Thanks.

 

[gromer]

Thats hillarious ALL THAT stuff that is nothing trust me.PPM with organics is gonna read at approxamtly 60%of the total ppm.And Joe Cool I use to totally agree with you grew outdoors and then indoors with nothin more than a simple ph tester 4 aquariums so I could check my water every now and again.I said ahh that stuff doesnt matter I gro living organic the beasties take care of it well news flash it does too matter it matters bigtime.Since I got my ph and ppm meters my yield has almost doubled.Yes the beasties do adjust the ph as they need and control the uptake of nutes into the plant but if the ph is not within a specific range and the ppm rising accordingly to the plants growth it makes it much harder for them to do their job right.And that is a serious gas all that stuff man how do you expect to progress little by little over a ten year period.You guys sound like a friend of mine when I was recently over hauling my room and switching over nutrients and got my meters.I did all this all at once started sealing the room added ac and dehuey started keeping the ph right and actually measuring ppms hes all how are you gonna know what worked.Im like it ALL works.It all works together tuning up a room is like dialing in a race car they change a dozen little things to win the NEXT race they dont fix one thing at a time so that maybe a few years down the line they start winning races.Maybe you have that sort of time but I for one am trying to get as good as I can as fast as I possibly can,my bro 57 says it best "I dont experiment with felonies"