Got a house.... Time to get down! Design my flipbox

[animosity2k1]

Alright, so I finally am almost 100% sure set I'll have a place. Lease is 100% a go, it's just up to me to sign. It's a 1800sq ft house w/o ac. I have a fairly small basement I'd say 15x15 or so but that includes a heater, boiler, sink, some shit in the way etc.

Theres also 4 rooms I can use and TONS of big closets for vegging / cloning. I'd like to do this w/o a worry of running to much wattage but I also tend to get over excited and take everything over board so I need to watch myself.

I figured I'd be safe w/ 6k watts in this house if theres only 2 of us living in it, no ac unit, and we'll only be running tv, refridgerator, laptops ... otherwise won't be much else going on inside besides reading a good book and studying for class.

I figure still the best way to do this is a 12/12 flip? The ultimate goal here is to pull about ***10lbs every 2 months*** Could we manage this w/ 2 rooms on a flip? 3k watts each? Or are we better trying to pull 6kwatt straight out of the basement?

Also what kind of electrical do I need to make sure is done to the house in order to plug in all the neccessary equipment.

This house also has a 3rd floor being dedicated towards fungus... so if anyone has an any ideas on that to let me know.

My current list of equipment is:

(3) 1000 watt hps lights and cooltubes
(1) 600 watt hps light and cooltube
(1) Switchable 400watt mh/hps
(2) 750 CFM Fans
(1) HUGE carbon scrubber

also... hydro or soil... Hydro would be a whole new world for me, I've seen others do it in person, but have no concrete experience myself. Can I just grow huge unscrogged trees w/ similar yields? Remember the goal is to get as close to 10lbs every 2months as possible. Theres about 3 of us this bud is going to go to for medicinal purposes, meaning a good amount will be turned into has and edibles as well since one of the guys doesn't enjoy smoking bud near as much as everyone else

All helps appreciated! I'll try to get some room pics soon

 

[420ponics]

Get those room pics up. I'd definately go hydro. You have more control of the grow. The plants will also grow much more noticably quicker. A flip flop system is a great idea. You may want to get a resevoir chiller running that kind of wattage if your cooling isn't the best. As far as the wiring goes. I've been trying to get someone to hook me up with a reliable online guide here recently. No one has responded to my post with that answer.

I'd rather run multiple smaller watt lights as opposed to the 1ks just because of coverage. You can space them out and get more penetration. However trust me...3 k watts in one room is just awesome.

Ponics.

 

[animosity2k1]

I'm going w/ the 3k watts just because they're something I have... trying to cut down on overhead costs here.

 

[Silver Bullet]

If you're doing a perpetual grow, then why dont you use an MH for veg? Make your next light purchase to be 2x400's for your mothers & clones. I definately go with those over getting a 1k so you can adjust the light's height to different needs.

Can I just grow huge unscrogged trees w/ similar yields?

I dont know if you would want to SCROG when you're using 1k's. 1ks have that light penetration that would hit buds on the lower braches. I'd think that since the footprint of a 1k isn't one of it's stong points, a scrog grow would not be worth the effort, and you might do more harm than good to the plant by stressing it.

idk though, i wouldn't just take my word for it.

 

[meduser180056]

Your fucking crazy running that many watts and using the top floor for "fungus".

Good luck homey.....

You ain't gonna get 10 p's every 2 months running 6k.

 

[OGDread]

How high is the ceiling? 10 feet or up can make you big trees. Put in 12 per light orso. You may want to dangle 1 or 2 400's vertical in between. Also, you may want to go for a closed system, no intake or outtake, but a good a/c. You could then add co2, and yield bigger. If you put the ballasts outside, aircool the lights, the a/c should not have a great deal to do.
I agree, 10p on 6k is very well done. Very expierenced people with co2 added, and if everything else is 100% -can- get it, two rooms on a flip sounds like the way to go considering space. Id start with 2 or 3 1000's and see where that leads.

 

[animosity2k1]

Meduser: How do you figure no 10lbs from 6k? I've seen plenty of 9600-10k watt grows here yielding 20lbs... and I'm doing over half of a 10k wattage....

Maybe I'm out of mny mind? Maybe... Probably But hell who's here to smash dreams? Fungus isn't a problem, logs are so ez to make ;o do that shit while sleeping asnd the top floor is key, theres just racks of shelving up there

 

[Frozenguy]

getting 10 pounds on 6k is possible.. but it would def. help if you go hydro, use a co2 enriched enviornment, had good genetics, no fuck ups, good humidity/temp for your strain.. the more of those things you do the closer you'll get to a 1gpw and + yield.. expect .5gpw.. or even less. just go soil and get your room dialed out.. atmosphere, strain, lighting, veg time blah blah.. then go hydro and master that.. you'll have a 1.0gpw yield in a couple harvests..

i would do a flip flop box btw.. i have one and its awesome.. doubles your wattage but you draw the same amps..

 

[animosity2k1]

Could you shoot me a pm w/ some idea of how it's all setup? I've read your thread but was looking for a sorta "construction" type thread ... not abouit the grow, but more about the room and construction of it in its entirety

 

[meduser180056]

It's possible, but not likely.

First off in order to keep 6k worth of flowering filled up your gonna need 1 or 2k just for veg.

You need a decent veg area if you want to pull every 2 months. Otherwise your looking at every 3 months more like.

Secondly, that's alot of watts to be running and growing mushrooms in the house will only make the situation worse if you get caught.

Thirdly, Sounds like your EXPECTING 2 p's a light and that doesn't happen unless your really dialed in.

You can EXPECT 1 p per light for starters. You work up from there and it could take several cycles.

Go Hydro. Use Co2. Research, study, research.

Have a back up plan. haha. Your electric bill will be very high.

Not trying to crush your dreams. Just giving you a dose of reality. If your not experienced with this stuff forget it. Start small and work you way up.

Hopefully the grows you've participated in have been some dialed in ones. Do your friends have a method/strain that consistently pulls 2p's a light? If they do copy it.

It's possible, but your gonna have to be all in and have some luck on your side too.

You should look for an industrial space or something if you wanna run wattage like that.

 

[animosity2k1]

What can industrial locations be purchased for? Any idea? Seems way more risky to buy a commerical place and do it

 

[Frozenguy]

6k watts is def. a decent amount of wattage to be ran in a house but not at all "too much". i'm not sure where you live cause that could make a difference.. if you pay your bill everythying will be fine.. and dont tell anyone.. besides that, whats wrong?? i will be running 7200 watts (3600 watts flip floped) plus 2300 watts for veg and another 1100 for a more specific project.. i'm not worried one bit.. just be safe about it..

i would go soil first.. then hydro.. do it a step at a time.. dont give yourself too many chances to fuck up..

 

[meduser180056]

Rent out an industrial spot.

This is the way the big time people around here do it.

You gotta be extremely picky about the location and owners/property management. Someone who's gonna leave ya alone.

Sounds like a fun adventure. Good luck. Frozenguy is right about it not being too much, but it's more than I would feel comfortable w/ personally.

Do you have a proven system that pulls 2 p's a light? What about your veg area?

 

[DB2004]

I build Flips from 4 to 40 lights. Lots of options and features are available. Also have available custom lighting controllers built to your needs. You can PM me here or send an email to [email protected].

Best Regards

DB2004

 

[NorCalRx]

If youre dreaming of pounds you need to keep it simple and remember you have access to the best growing greenhouse in the world... nature! If you are considering renting a warehouse or something like that I'd say youre better off acquiring your own open space. Dont even trip about flyovers because that's easy to circumvent. Just grow lots of other kinds of vegetation and mix your topped ladies in with them. Get a couple good dogs and just use miracle grow I bet you could even rig up automatic irrigation for your plants and food/water for your dogs and monitor everything remotely. You will yield way more per plant than you ever could indoors and thus keep your plant count down so you dont hit the magic number (feds dont like the peeps going over 99 plants) and if you are doing this with more than one patient then thats even more legit. Just dont do what eddy lepp did and go overboard!

 

[Guest]

For the fungus I'd say set up a few martha's. Use WBS jars and spawn to hpoo. Maybe even set up a few monotubs on the side. Set up the different martha's to do perpetual.

Once you find a nice specimin (or couple) clone them into a liquid culture and use this to innoculate the WBS jars.

I think this would be the best fastest way to get a good yield of fungus.

 

[NorCalRx]

Youre growing shrooms? Man I dont want to sound like an asshole but I bet part of the reason OG went down was there was considerable "other" activities happening on the website besides marijuana cultivation. From a legal perspective you invalidate any medical marijuana claims once its time for court if youre involved in any other illegal drugs... then again if youre not planning on providing alot of patients with this crop and you want 10LBS every cycle then you never had legitimate intentions anyway. It's ultimately your choice of course but I think its more risk than what its worth considering youre in school and have a bright future ahead of you.