Good suggestions for mild autism?

[CannaZen]

Hello everyone

Before i get down into it, i would like to introduce myself a little as to better elaborate my situation pertaining to your suggestions, i hope it is not too long for you you all to read.

I believe i have a mild form of autism, specifically a form of aspergers. Its difficult to describe exactly how this effects my life as from my point of view i am much like anybody else.. but I’ve had difficulties functioning in society, especially regarding social interactions and i am sure these problems will continue for some time. I believe it has been due to my childhood but it could also be that it was the culprit of my childhood. I have heard of a study showing a good percentage of cannabis users that have not had a father figure in their early life, i feel this definitely holds true for me. I tend to make a lot of mistakes without realizing it until later, this makes me feel very anxious and typically it is hard for me to feel that everything is going to be OK in situations like social interaction, it makes it very hard for me to focus on the moment and instead i'm in more of an abstract perspective, over-analyzing everything which makes it hard for me to focus on what is important. Its also hard for me to hold interest (both short term and some long term) in what i am doing or who i am talking to. Due to this and my life situation, I’ve felt empty and depressed for a long time now. I may look into getting a diagnosis at some point, for now i hold off on that. I'm planning to look into tai chi or yoga and some other holistic/ayurvedic medicines.

Moving on! I think what i need is something both stimulating and sedating BUT subtle, i believe this would help combat the anxiety and motivational/focus problems. however i need to be functional enough for activities like driving or working. I'm looking into breeding landraces for something that may work best for me as they may be unique, medicinal and not as potent (lending to more subtle effects perhaps). I've started with some SoA seeds for now but i was hoping to hear from ICMAG on good seed suggestions landrace or not that i could look into?

It is much appreciated everyone!

 

[CannaZen]

Yeah, i've noticed that i've used some words perhaps a little too frequently heh..

I wanted to add that despite my limited smoking experience, i have sometimes experienced a sense of clear-headedness and that is part of what i am seeking out, potent green tea/coffee has sometimes had this effect leading me to feel like "my true self" but it is not very consistent and short lasting.

 

[Tom Hill]

So many folks in my family are auties. Myself included. Not mildly either. I force myself to touch you in this fucking crazy acceptable society really i have to shake your hand? Then my father taught me i need to look in your eyes too oh jee wizz great. I have no idea what's going on in your head and i am wrong often enough that maybe more better if i stop trying.. but ur a pretty simple organisms if i study you i can sometimes come close to delivering what you want to hear.. mostly though,, i hate you guys lol,,, i need to be drunk to even talk to you and you must be high on acid if you think i can enjoy a massage from a stranger or some shit...

My son too, non-verbal at 10 years old now,, it runs deep in my family and i always saw it as normal too. Animals only look at each other in the eye b4 they try to kill each other,, i don't really get why humans do it differently,, but anyway.. life is just some bizarre rubix cube to some.

smoke what makes you feel good,, or what allows you to better express yourself,, it's a journey, we have no choice,, charge.. .

 

[WelderDan]

You're gonna get some interesting strain suggestions. Like "try an uplifting Haze." If you have anxiety issues I would avoid the headies like Haze or C99. As someone with anxiety disorder, I can assure you that it's easy for me to over imbibe and find myself having a panic attack if I puff too much. That's a shame because I like the buzz, I just have to hit it easy until I know how much I can handle.

If I were you, I'd look at Blueberry, maybe Bog's Bogglegum, or Northern lights. Nice mellow weed without the mind racing spazz out.

Like Tom said, smoke what you like. Just be careful how much you smoke at once. Learn your limits.

I grew some mean ass, glue you to the chair, stare at a TV that ain't even on for 30 minutes shit a few years back. I'd warn people to hit it easy. And they'd say "I smoke the best shit money can buy!" 4 or 5 hits later they'd get pale and have to sit down. Mr. "I smoke the best shit blah blah blah" had to call his wife to come pick him up because he was afraid to drive.

All I'm saying is moderation is your friend. You can probably enjoy a lot of stuff if you try a little, see how it goes, try a little more.

 

[bigganjabud]

CannaZen welcome mate I hope your having a good day/week/month

I'm subbed to this as there is a lot of isms in my house and I'd like to be able to do more for my loved ones

Having said that I'd like to offer my thoughts

Oils and concentrate seem to help my eldest son the most at the moment but he's tolorence levels are unbelievable! So I'd say look into those as a future option

I think personally he enjoys a bit of cbd but not too much
And the heavier the thc content the more he prefers it in the evening (or due to he's hyper mobility last thing at night!)

These are the only two things I can say for certain as I need to brush up on my sign language a bit more

Needless to say il be popping in quite a bit because I'm very interested in your findings

 

[JamieShoes]

So many folks in my family are auties. Myself included. Not mildly either. I force myself to touch you in this fucking crazy acceptable society really i have to shake your hand? Then my father taught me i need to look in your eyes too oh jee wizz great. I have no idea what's going on in your head and i am wrong often enough that maybe more better if i stop trying.. but ur a pretty simple organisms if i study you i can sometimes come close to delivering what you want to hear.. mostly though,, i hate you guys lol,,, i need to be drunk to even talk to you and you must be high on acid if you think i can enjoy a massage from a stranger or some shit...

My son too, non-verbal at 10 years old now,, it runs deep in my family and i always saw it as normal too. Animals only look at each other in the eye b4 they try to kill each other,, i don't really get why humans do it differently,, but anyway.. life is just some bizarre rubix cube to some.

smoke what makes you feel good,, or what allows you to better express yourself,, it's a journey, we have no choice,, charge.. .

not sure if it was hard for you to write those words or really easy, but either way, I appreciate this post (it's ok, you dont have to appreciate mine lol)

my little girl still non verbal at 12, makes her life very different to anything I could have expected for her.. mostly shes happy, sometimes its like a mania... sometimes shes incredibly sad, sometimes thats like a mania too... hard to understand what to do for the best sometimes... tried a few things but no noticeable changes... really all you can do is let them be and encourage them in what they enjoy..

funny, been in control of everything all my life, I'm a smart mouth c*nt and always been told I have an answer for everything... changes you when suddenly you have no answers.

 

[Macfawlty]

What you experience is closer to ADHD. Remember that these generalized categories of symptoms designated by psychiatrists/psychologists are descriptive diagnoses, not medical ones. Often times they are used simply so health care providers will,cover treatments and pharmaceutical companies can market Rx medications. Below is a post I shared recently...

Do any of you all have experience with any of these websites selling cbd oil?

I see several online. I have a good friend that has a child with autism and wants to try it out.. shes not in a med state btw

I have done considerable research on autism and other autoimmune disorders. Lately my interest has been in using CBD oils. First, I'd say CBD oil is worth a try as it's unlikely to have any negative side effects. I would suggest that your friend spend a lot of time researching complementary and alternative treatments for autism and not focus on the use of CBD alone, like any one treatment is going to cure autism. Dietary changes are at the top of everyone's list. Our doctors run extensive labwork on food sensitivities + Candida (Great Plains Lab), nutritional panels (NutrEval from Genova Diagnostics), hair and urine toxic metals and essential elements. You need a good practitioner to guide you.

Go to YouTube and search for AutismOne 2016. This group has their conference every year at the end of May. For the last 2 years they have put every one of their nearly 100 hours of seminars on YouTube. On their website, you can find downloads of the PPT slides as a PDF. Answers to the multifactorial causes and treatments for autism are presented by some of the most cutting edge scientists, doctors and practitioners in the field.

There are a number of practitioners that have been using CBD for autism and the conference even has a separate cannabis track with a number of presentations on its use. The most comprehensive and informative sessions are with Christopher Shade, PhD of Quicksilver Scientific. QS has very specialized products for detoxification of heavy metals (which can be a complicated process). They recently developed what looks to be the best medical grade CBD product on the market. Unfortunately, it's not yet available for retail, but they can refer you to a practitioner. It's new, so they are still gathering data on efficacy for various conditions. One takeaway I will share is he says that CBD mitigates many negative effects of detoxification and other treatments by upregulating/downregulating various factors in gene expression. So, essentially, it works well on its own and it works well with others. CBD is also considerably more effective than THC in up/downregulating specific genes by a factor of 10:1.

There is GREAT promise in CBD for all autoimmune, neurodegenerative and cancer. It's still in its infancy.

There are many sources for CBD oil. Search for a website Realm of Caring which was set up by the Stanley Brothers, who developed Charlottes Web. The website can help your friend with using CBD and finding practitioners. They have a few brands that I would trust as they are seed to sale and grown by them in Colorado. Medical CBD is their business.

Autism is a difficult disorder. You have to spend a lot of time on research and need a good CAM practitioner. Even then, you have to be smarter and better informed than your practitioners. CBD is so new, most have little knowledge or experience with it. I am pushing my doctors every week to start testing it with their patients and register with Realm of Caring to report their findings.

 

[CannaZen]

MacFawlty, thank you for continuing the discussion in a meaningful direction.

You are right, I believe my symptoms are more related to ADHD than anything. I have been feeling these diagnoses are generalized categories as of late so i am glad you have noted that. I was diagnosed by a teacher to possibly have ADD. I did not like being prescribed a medication for the way of my thought-process, i never had a 'real' diagnoses from a doctor and i have lead a very anti-social and abnormal life, i would not know to be different. My perspective on how i developed to be that way is interesting in that it felt like a response to my environment at the time. I felt very alone and inhibited.

Hopefully that can explain why i appear to be 'all over the place' in my posts for some of you here.
My condition is more complex than that and even physical to the point of affecting my breathing. THC heavy strains make me feel like i'm having a heart attack, i cant breath in rhythm with my heart. both of which greatly effect my consciousness. i am still trying to understand it, i wish i could discuss how cannabis may help but i'm afraid i need to be patient and try different varieties with different ratios of cannabinoids before i can have anything useful to discuss. Currently i'm looking at trying CBD/THCV in different ratios with THC.. whether that will have any benefit at all i cannot say but the research on their interaction with receptors is very intriguing and i believe may offer some potential to help.

I'm very disconnected with my heart and lungs through my spine, i suffered damage when i was a kid in school at about the same time period. by focusing on these areas i am able to take deeper breaths but otherwise i feel limited to short, shallow breaths.

 

[zirt]

I´m not an expert but from my point of view, it´s clear that all this kind of problems are related to the different chemicals we have in the brain and the quantitative correlation between them.

I was myself in observation in the psychiatric wing of the hospital, untill I got kicked outI don´t trust western medicine and their pills. I was on Cipressa for a while, the most aphatic feeling of my life.
They said the cause of my problems was cannabis, when the real true is that Cannabis saved my life, the same way Icmag saved EnglishRick´s life.

I would be having a look on Chinese Natural remedies like Ginko Biloba or Reishi (Ganoderma Lucidum) that have been used thousands years ago.
Now even the western medicine have found that there are substances in this tree and mushroom with substances that help in problems related to the brain(parkinson,loss of memory etc..)

I have no doubts that THCV have great medicinal qualities too,but I can´t tell as every one has been blocking my way in order to protect their shitty bussiness. No more, no Less.

 

[Ollie]

I would start out by trying "Nepal Jam".

If Your not able to source imported Charas to try out, thats a good place to start imvho.

Each persons ECS is different, but I have found Charas from the Nepali/Indian region has a "clearing" effect, subtle but yet very profound, that a lot of non sensitive people could miss out, if the "effects" they are looking for is influenced by a high Limonene dominant Terpene content.

If Your not getting all wacked out on it, try to see if Limonene dominant vars. get Your mind/thoughts spinning around, with more anxiety to boot it. Once cleared, stay away from the profiles which work against, rather than with You.

All the best

 

[zirt]

You have also a couple of cuttings, coming from plants that were stolen last year by TIMAFEM and his puppets; these are GLO F3 and MISS GLO.
The Guys into the known, some of whom lurk around here,got them allready as they are unable to produce anything decent, due to their lack understanding of some basic principles that rule life.

You can check with them as they are here for the love, to share their deep knowledge and understanding and to give example with their ethos of life, rooted in strong morals&ethics, solid as the afghan marble.

That sounds really nice

 

[GoatCheese]

I'm very disconnected with my heart and lungs through my spine, i suffered damage when i was a kid in school at about the same time period. by focusing on these areas i am able to take deeper breaths but otherwise i feel limited to short, shallow breaths.

For you breathing problems, have you tried "deep breathing"? ..meaning that you draw a breath with your lower lungs..so that your stomach and lower back expand when inhaling. Did wonders to my bad back.
It takes awhile to get used to and you really have to be mindful of your breathing (..and sitting straight) for the first few months, but then you kinda start breathing like that naturally. It strengthens your back muscles and abs, which will then give you more support for your spine.


Google: deep breathing and you'll find tons of info
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As for cannabis type for adhd and these kinds of conditions, i'd avoid racy, paranoia inducing sativas or hybrids. Also it's good to have a full stomach before using, cause if you haven't eaten for a while, cannabis can have a sugar crash-type effect at first


One trick, if many types of cannabis feels too strong and uneasy, is to use smaller dosages so that you fell nice little medication that takes some of the "edge" away, but not enough to feel the proper "baked"-effect.


Maybe 1:1 ratio THC:CBD strains could work. Nowadays there a many indica and sativa leaning 1:1 strains on the market. Search YouTube for CBD-strain reviews.

 

[ECtraveler]

I have Aspergers myself and started taking a 2:1 (CBD:THC) tincture for digestive reasons and found that it helped "regulate"(I know that's not the right word) my emotions and dabbing CBD does even more so. It's not 100% effective and I very well could be experiencing a placebo effect but it has definitely made my life easier.

*re:dabbing CBD. Completely anecdotal but there does seem to be a point where too much CBD is counter-effective

 

[Luckypunch]

Hello everyone



It is much appreciated everyone!

Hi

which symptoms do you have and which you want to treat with Mj ?
If you dont want to say it open ,send me a pm !
Use DSM-IV book to look symptom names plz


LP


ps:you are rel. new here to icmag .WELCOME!
Do you know our LANDRACE thread?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65686

 

[CannaZen]

Definitely, i sometimes use Ginkgo and reishi and among others and in fact i have started a decent herbal garden containing sage, salvia D, basil, mint.. etc.. which i believe to have great underappreciated potential but their medicinal properties alone are not as profound as pot can be. I'm hoping to make up some magical concoctions, experimentation is key. These medicines have not been very effective alone i believe as i have trouble taking them on a regular basis.

I have ordered some rsc lebanese, these are said to likely contain ratios of about 6 1:1 thc/cbd, 2 thc dominant and 2 cbd dominant according to the venerable Namkha and a user named Tomas who was performing tests. I also have an african variety that is said to be a very natural cerebral high, early smoke of very poor quality bud did result in effects that were very helpful for me focusing socially.. hopefully i can replicate that in stronger buds when i do another grow. I'll have to do some cannabinoid profiling.. i hear kits are available, if they are affordable.



Zirt, i agree regarding breeders who are stingy when it comes to sharing their work. I understand the need and desire to protect ones integrity in that way, especially in a pre legalized world but when i think of how most genetics stand on the back of giants so to speak it makes me want to throw it back in their face with a fuck you included. how far would they get if every farmer and every grower had this mentality? its capitalistic in the way that capitalism holds back society, pure and simple greed. Need i bring up monsanto sueing farmers because a few of their gmo seeds open pollinated nearby crops and said farmers save seeds each year?

Of course, what i say is very controversial and i admit that it is not that simple but on the other hand.. it is. Especially as far as helping those in need can be concerned. i would think a signed contract would not be enough for these people, as ridiculous as that is.

Though i am sure a THCV varietal could be found, i do not have the skills and resources to perfect such a strain to a usable form on my own. If i had a livelihood and a business to protect? i am confident that i would have much hesitation of sharing seeds with forum members i do not know or trust. Maybe once i build up enough reputation i can acquire some from here.

 

[CannaZen]

'jeez i sound dyslexic up there, also this is starting to look like this thread belongs in a different place. Anyway.. i have some more to say.

Yes i've tried deep breathing GoatCheese, its very difficult for me to do.

I do not exactly remember what happened, its very hazy but i remember being attacked. It was very hard for me to keep up with my breath. In a fight or flight mode, i was able to get home to quickly find that i could not relax. I dont remember how long i was awake but at some point i had to surrender to the pain, expecting death but somehow i made it through, i'm still breathing. That pain is still part of me and honestly it felt like i was dieing consciously from suffocation, watching my body practically imploding from the inside and tasting blood, watching my mind moving from an internal awareness to an empty awareness of the 3d world that you can see around you as the pain seemingly fades. To keep going was to embrace the pain.

The spinal damage made it difficult for me to use that part of my lungs like a broken link in a chain and so over the years i've grown to have pectus carinatum. I'd of rather died then but i kept going, for my family. I still refuse to be less than i was or would have been, i've never accepted it. The doc says my balls kept me alive, hah!

Severely depressed, i eat constantly. If i did not have a fast metabolism, i'd be 200 pounds easy by now IMO. THCV is said to possibly curb hunger, I hope it can for me.


Thanks luckyPunch, yes i've visited the landraces thread frequently. its great to see cannabis in its more natural forms. I'm trying some seeds of africa Transkei at present.

 

[Tom Hill]

Beer is what i mostly use